To ALL the Hillary bashers

[Bitwit1234]

it seems to me that none of the other candidate supporters except those for Obama are constantly bashing and trashing Hillary. Then they post more trash about the conflict between the posters. Well if they weren't so upset that Hillary is pulling away from Obama and is surely going to leave him behind they would stop the trashing and post positive quotes, articles and only good stuff about their candidate. Goodness knows why they can't. Jealous of Hillary I guess. I just see that Edwards is coming on strong and pretty soon they will have to change their tactics and start to trash him.

[JeffR]

1. Oh please

Isn't there more than enough of this tripe strewn all over GD and GDP these days?

[JVS]

3. Is that a Nigel Tuffnel avatar?

[JeffR]

4. David St. Hubbins duh!!!!!!

:+

[JVS]

5. seriously? He looks like nigel

[JeffR]

14. You're probably thinking of Joe "Mama" Besser

[Totally Committed]

60. I always thought that was Joni Mitchell....

LOL!

TC

[tkmorris]

12. It's Joni Mitchell

Cover to her "Blue" CD.

[JeffR]

15. I think he's being waggish

If not, he needs an eye exam...

[Blue_In_AK]

38. Oh, you're RIGHT!

All this time I've been thinking JeffR's avatar was Neil Young. OMG, do I feel like an idiot. :rofl:

[JeffR]

56. This may sound ignorant but it's true

All Canadians look alike. I once asked Raymond Massey for his autograph, thinking he was Alanis Morisette.

[Blue_In_AK]

57. ROFL!

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

This is the first thing I've read this morning. Thanks for starting my day out with a good laugh.

[JeffR]

73. Weird thing is, all he said to me was

You Oughta Know...
:silly:

[Blue_In_AK]

75. JeffR, can you give yourself a DUzy?

You're cracking me up here.

[JeffR]

76. I could, I guess

but there's more than enough screaming on this board these days.

[Totally Committed]

62. Oh, it IS Joni Mitchell...

Good.

I was beginning to think I was going to have to find something stronger than tri-focals! LOL!

TC

[roguevalley]

66. truly. I am so tired of this stuff. it makes me hate the candidate in

question. In fact, the length of this primary stuff makes me hate them all. Its not their fault. this is just going on too long.

[KittyWampus]

2. so you're calling out Obama supporters who YOU think are the only people 'bashing' Hillary

meanwhile you're apparently an Edwards supporter bla bla bla

[noamnety]

6. Maybe this will explain things.

See the bottom left corner? That's where most of DU stands on the actual issues.



See this? Think I care much if it's Obama OR Clinton OR Edwards? Of those three, Hillary is furthest to the right. The distance between any of them and McCain, though - it's not all that much.

[YOY]

63. Is that from TahitiNut's poll?

I love that site...

[noamnety]

67. Yep, shameless stolen from TahitiNut

I bookmarked that thread, knowing there would be a use for it sometime.

[TechBear_Seattle]

7. Once again, us Kucinich supporters are ignored

Please: convince me that Clinton is a better candidate than any other. All I have been from the Go To Hil camp is a lot of whining about how everyone is bashing them.

[Froward69]

11. They can't or refuse to Defend, just whine.

[emilyg]

18. Someone who lists his hobby "women",,cannot be taken seriously.

[Froward69]

31. is that better...

"women" was just what came to mind that day I was pissed off and signed on in a hurry.

[emilyg]

39. Thanks for a good chuckle.

:hug:

[Warren DeMontague]

41. Funny, I thought you were talking about Biden.

If it was Biden, though, the hobby would probably be "talking".

[emilyg]

17. Not true. Shame on you.

[TechBear_Seattle]

19. Another whine, another disregarded opportunity to sell the candidate

Tsk.

[emilyg]

29. An opinion is not a whine.

[superkia]

68. Ive asked for her supporters to enlighten me on her and I never...

get any substance on her. I see Kucinich supporters telling why they support him but its hard to get supporters of other candidates to do the same. It would educate us all on who is the best person for the peoples future but I'm not sure you will get anything? Good luck!

[Froward69]

8. The POLL leaders need to be questioned

at every turn. we are talking about the highest most powerful position in the land. If Biden were the current POLL leader, I would be defending him vigerously. not crying, "stop it because he is a white male." Deflecting, or avoiding answering questions based on my suspicions of a gop plant. Etc, etc...

[ProudDad]

42. The (Mark Penn) polls are juiced... (n/t)

[PollThis]

58. Inspiration for a nickname change. nt

[Kagemusha]

9. I said a long time ago "They're just jealous!" would be the new theme.

Guess I called that one.

No, I'm just sad no one wants to do better.

[emilyg]

20. Why don't you set an example.

[Kagemusha]

27. All right, I will. I'll shut the hell up.

I've been meaning to for some time and there's nothing else to 'discuss' about such issues, so I'll be silent about this from now on.

My apologies for having clearly vilely offended you.

[ElizabethDC]

10. Bitwit, as a Hillary supporter, I think this kind of post isn't helping our cause

while jealousy could be a factor, there are quite a few people here who have legitimate, issues-based disagreements with Hillary, and this isn't true just of Obama supporters. Let's try not to make generalizations - I know I don't like it when people make negative generalizations about Hillary supporters.

[Swamp Rat]

13. If the candidates can't take bashing, they're not good enough.

:)

[emilyg]

21. The candidates are not on DU.

[Swamp Rat]

24. How do you know?

Anyway, that is not what I meant. If they do not pass the 'smell test' amongst ourselves, then they are not worthy of MY vote.

Btw, I plan to say a lot of things about Democratic candidates though out the coming year. I hope you can handle it. :)

Bring on the bashing!! :D

[emilyg]

28. I can handle it.

:D

[rucky]

16. Please keep it in GD-P. n/t

[otherlander]

22. I am neither jealous nor an Obama supporter

but I don't want a president who regards the health insurance companies so highly and she didn't speak out against the war until after the other leading Dem candidates did and I don't think we should be giving military aid to Colombia and if she wins the primary I'll vote for her in the general election but I always kind of hoped that our first female president would be better than this.

[Bluebear]

23. Jealous of Hillary? Not after seeing who she has as her top strategist.

Her association with Mark Penn is a total deal-breaker for me.

[johncoby2]

25. She is going to win the nomination.

And will be the first woman president.

Live with it folks.

[saracat]

30. Another one of those arrogant "deal with it" repliesSheesh.

[Froward69]

32. Pure arrogance. without substance.

I will be happy and suprised. IF she ACTUALLY wins the GE. but it will be business as usual from then on. My prediction is your MANDITORY health insurance premiums wont ever go down.

[ProudDad]

43. Hooray

the USAmerican Lady Thatcher...

Gee, I just fucking can't wait...

[LeftCoast]

47. While you may eventually be correct it is still far too early to say that with conviction.

It's also kind of obnoxious and doesn't do your candidate any favors.

[oasis]

26. No different on DU than in campaign 2004 except more Rethugs and Greens posting.

[mmonk]

33. Pretty much standard fare between supporters.

Sometimes it's bashing and other times something someone wants to point out. But campaign time tends to get a little testy.

[depakid]

34. Pointing out policy statements and political associations is "bashing?"

Reminds me of the old British common law dictum:

The greater the truth, the greater the libel.

[sandnsea]

35. Criminy - the Kucinich people bash Hillary

Every Body bashes Hillary. That ought to be a big fat clue to the Hillary supporters...

[ProudDad]

44. Right!!!

And we Kucinich supporters are as genuinely peaceful as you're going to find!!!

We don't really "bash her" though, she pretty much bashes herself.

We only have to point out what few "policies" she's articulated, the fact that there ARE so few and her record and --- damn we're bashing her...

Bad us...

[Beerboy]

36. This is a long election cycle, I wouldn't even start

worrying about sniping and in-fighting just yet.
I don't agree with some of Hillary's policy positions, but I know her appointments to the Supreme Court are going to be better than any Rethug candidate's.
For myself, I prefer to look @ the big picture. The Court is the most influential institution, lasting beyond an administration.

[ProudDad]

45. You may regret that

The SCOTUS isn't going to repair the damage that her corporate capitalist masters will have her do...

You like NAFTA, just wait 'till you see what she'll bring up...

You like the for-profit health insurance mafia, just wait 'till she starts shoveling more money their way and STILL NO UNIVERSAL COVERAGE...

You like the NYSE, just wait 'till their employee hillary shows up at the White House...

Hell, the courts are already stacked with right-wing judges hand-picked by ray-gun/bush I/bush II -- the courts are a lost cause.

SCOTUS is stacked with pro-corporate right-wing judges, 7 of them to be exact so we're screwed there too.

I'd rather have someone in the office who would appoint the right kind of judges AND be a REAL Democrat...for the people not for the corporations...

[ncabot22]

37. Please

I have read some of the nasty messages some Hillary supporters post about Obama. One called him an empty suit. Another said he was nothing. Still another refers to him as all fizzle no sizzle.

Get a thicker skin. It is primary season.

[ProudDad]

40. Nope, you're wrong

1st, It's not bashing -- it's exposing her for what she is and who has bought and paid for her -- not a tough sell because in her core she's corporate...

2nd, I'm a Kucinich supporter but I could vote for nearly ANY of the other candidates -- Obama, Edwards, Biden, in extremis Richardson but I loath the idea of another corporate tool in the office.

She's Slick Willie on Steroids!!! :shudder:

[jgraz]

46. Another substance-free (and punctuation free) Hillary the Victim post

You guys really need to save a few of these for after she loses the nomination. They'll have much more punch then. :eyes:

[DemocratSinceBirth]

51. Correcting Grammar On The Internet Is Always So Attractive

ROTFLMFAO

[The Backlash Cometh]

48. If that's how you see it, you aren't seeing a clear picture.

It's the Pro-Hillarys who are constantly bashing anyone who says anything negative about Hillary. And, ironically, no one would probably jump in the fight if it wasn't so obvious that there's a surge in the way the pro-Hills are astro-turfing articles on this newsgroup; and attacking anyone who disagrees with them. It mirrors the media blasting that they're doing outside.

And it's so incredibly obvious that they're pulling every media stop to get her numbers up for Iowa; and to psych out anyone who supports any other candidate into believing the race is over.

Shame on you all.

As for Edwards and Obama. I'm willing to bet most people on this newsgroup would love to see that ticket in '08, either man can go first as president.

[ima_sinnic]

49. wow--a real genius among us! I am no Obama supporter & I detest HRC

She is a forked-tongued, insincere, triangulating, subversive war monger/profiteer.
She is not a "leader" because she has never really taken a stand on anything before checking to see what everybody else is doing and which way the wind is blowing. She never just outright says anything, she waffles, she flip-flops, she covers her ass.

And she never met a corporate dollar she wouldn't kiss ass for. She consorts with Rupert Murdoch. She would do anything to keep the corporatists happy. She is a PNACer, a trojan horse who puts on a front of "Democrat" while implicitly promising the corporatists the world.

You like the way things are now? Then vote for Shillary, because A Vote For HRC Is A Vote For The Status Quo. Prepare for at least another decade of war if HRC is foisted on us the way jr. shit stain was, the way Kerry was foisted on us as the candidate in 2004--no thanks to HRC's behind-the-scenes ops, I have no doubt, a person she then subverted and dissed.

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[ima_sinnic]

53. WRONG! I have NEVER and WILL NEVER vote for a repuke.

I have been voting for Democrats since 1968.
I just see through her, that's all. She is transparently repuke-lite. I suppose I sound "bitter" because I see people, as usual, falling for her bullshit, not having the foresight or the intuition to see that she is not who she appears to be, and I have the sinking feeling that, again as usual, I along with all other Americans will be the victim of stupid people's voting. The problem with "majority rule" is that the majority often is not that wise.

[autorank]

52. And the first shall be last...and a Hillary nomination will be a defeat for Democrats

...count on it. She's more palatable, slightly, than the goof balls on the Republican side but
she stands for nothing much than a continuation of allegiance to the money party...

But she won't make it across the finish line, even with all of the props form corporate media.

The Mark Penn fiasco is just the beginning.

Nothing personal here, I admire your spunk but she's a loser.

[ima_sinnic]

54. ... I SO hope you are right!

If The People wake up, she will indeed be the loser. But the sheeple have not given me a whole lot of confidence in their ability to go beyond the mass media manipuation and distortions to make their own wise decisions. PLEASE PROVE ME WRONG!!!

[autorank]

65. Events will be the judge...

...how's that for weasel words. But I think the people have woken up and that The Money Party and
their lackey corporate media are tweaking things to make her look good in the polls.

See how easily polls are manipulated and how the corporate media etc. don't even police themselves.

http://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/HL0708/S00284.htm

[burythehatchet]

72. BUt then they can blame the "Hillary haters". We'll be the Nader

excuse for '08

[dionysus]

55. case of the kettle crying foul...

rofl

[MrMickeysMom]

59. Excuse me while I bring this up-

:puke:

[bigtree]

61. I keep seeing that video with the girl screaming for us to leave Brittany alone

[doc03]

64. Myself I like Hillary Clinton and Obama but oppose both

simply because if we nominate Hillary Clinton or Obama we will lose in 2008 in my opinion. I don't think people on DU in the more Democratic leaning states have any idea or concept of the prejudice that still exists in the states we need to carry such as Ohio. I know not enough men will vote for Hillary and don't believe people here are ready for a black President.

[backscatter712]

69. Ah, the sweet smell of astroturf!

How much do you get paid to shill for Hillary, Bitwit?

[WinkyDink]

70. This ain't tiddly-winks! (Go, Edwards!)

[burythehatchet]

71. ANy piece of shit thread can 5 recs, it appears.

[HughMoran]

74. I thought "this thread ought to be good"

But the original post isn't all that edgy.


Silly attacks like this make it seem a lot more powerful than it is though!

[Fading Captain]

77. Blah Blah Blah... Tell us why you like Hillary. Why can't DUer's

who like Clinton make a convincing list of reasons why Hillary is worthy of the Democratic nomination.
Where is she on unions?
Fair trade?
War?