Rep Pete Stark D-Cal..Giving HELL to SCHIP opponents..

[Blaze Diem]

Stating" billions to Iraq War..for what? So these kids can grow up to be killed in that war?"

Appreciate his lecturing of the Pubbies who kiss GW's snotty rich-kid butt.

[EST]

1. That was good.

Even Steny Hoyer made a surprisingly eloquent and moving two minute speech, earlier.

I am unable to judge fairly because I am biased, but it certainly looks like the supporters of veto override are making graceless fools of the reluctant pukes.

[Blaze Diem]

2. It was good. and is reassuring to hear someone fight a good old

fight.
Ohhhh Words Taken Down....Member can't speak for rest of the day!!

ahhhhhhhgg..getting tense

[Blaze Diem]

4. F*ckin Barton is an asshole crybay..WUSSSS

Stark said what needed to be said..the Truth!.

[spanone]

3. now the thugs are tryin' to get his words stricken

[Blaze Diem]

6. Barton is such a useless pubbie hack.

Stark said no more than most pubbies say when given the floor to speak..They slander, lie, and bribe for votes.
I hope Starks words are played all over the news, when this is over.

[Lasher]

5. Words being taken down were uttered by Pete Stark (D-CA)

Well this is an interesting development. Said it was the third time today it happened.

[spanone]

8. they are claiming that what stark said violated the house rules

he mentioned how many people we would kill in iraq and they are trying to shut him up

[MzNov]

26. they violate Repukes House Rule No. 1: Tell the truth. nt

[MzNov]

35. well, you know what I mean LOL

[Blaze Diem]

10. Stark's fighting for SCHIP..comparison to Iraq is the TRUTH..

Republicans don't want to hear it..the truth.

Billions for Iraq but not for childrens healthcare.
These kids will grow up to be killed in Iraq war..
Sadly it is the truth.

Stark has just called the Bush-kissers on this subject.
Bless him.
I'm sending him a congratgs for his fight, EMAIL

His candor is appreciated.

[Blaze Diem]

13. NOT out of order..Now I am REALLY going to send a fine

Email of great thanks.
This was a great moment.

Boehner is disapointed..too f***in bad.

I'm disappointed in the past 8 years.

Wish they'd be done speaking and get to the vote.

[ChairmanAgnostic]

7. they are playing his words on CPSAN NOW

re: the objections by some texas asshole who wants him held out of order. Joe Barton.

[spanone]

9. and is he's successful, stark cannot speak the rest of the day.

[spanone]

11. barton was shot down!!!

stark was NOT out of order

[ChairmanAgnostic]

21. hardie har har har!

bastard! (no, not you, spanone)

[Lasher]

12. Words that Stark said

CSPAN just played it back.

"Will spend 200 billion in Iraq" - and that's about it?? WTF? I think it was Barton who said that was the "third time in this debate." I heard someone else yelling something, off-mic. Stark said some more inflamatory things before but this particular utterance didn't seem that inflamatory.

"We probably will have killed 200,000 (?) in Iraq." is what the clerk just read back as the phrase that was taken down. The chair just ruled it was not an utterance that justified censure.

[Blaze Diem]

15. Congrats to Stark.

Like poking a stick in their eye..3 times.
HA

[Lasher]

19. Yup.

Brownshirt manuver didn't work.

[spanone]

14. boehner, he's just so full of shit and condescending.

he's lecturing us about the democrats not working with the thugs....sent a bill they didn't want the president to sign.

he hopes the political games will end.....bwahahahahahahahahahaha:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

[Lasher]

16. Boner speaking now.

Thinks Dems sent SCHIP legislation to Junior, wanting it to be vetoed. Sez we could have had this resolved already if Dems had done it his way.

Rep John Dingell (D-MI) up now.

[Blaze Diem]

17. Bet he has wonderful health care..for his family too.

ass..child haters..
heeeeer's Pelosi.

end this and get to the vote.

[bdamomma]

39. and could we as Americans give these jerks a message

that the American people are pissed off at this administration, and all this shit Bohner was spewing about how Americans want to see our Reps work bi partisan, its the fucking repigs who shoot down Dems legislation. and if this vote does not get passed, will we rally and unite to call our Reps and tell them how despicable these repigs are to shoot down this vote. Geez, enough is enough.

[spanone]

18. pelosi up now

[Blaze Diem]

23. Vote is after Pelosi right?

She is last to speek I think.

Good to mention Easter Seals & March of Dimes..gratitude for SCHIP.

[Lasher]

31. Yes, I'm pretty sure that's true.

I didn't see any official thread on this. Guess we're it.

[bobbolink]

20. I was surprised by what he said.... "Kids getting their heads blown off for the amusement of *"

I suspect it's actually sorta true, but... that's an unusual statement.

I couldn't help myself... I was smiling. :)

Who was the woman chairing the proceedings? She immediately warned of making "personal" comments about the president as soon as Stark ended. I think there's a point there, it *is* wrong to make personal attacks, but.... I have to admit, I enjoyed this one. :)

Of course, it's always fine for the RW to make personal attacks of anyone and everyone.



:nuke:

[Lasher]

25. I believe that was in reference to a recent article about Blackwater.

Iraqi guy was saying he had trouble identifying his family members' bodies because their heads had been blown off.

Edit: Here's the article http://www.cnn.com/2007/WORLD/meast/10/16/dad.blackwater/

[Blaze Diem]

27. Right you are..I hear them do it all the time..

Getting those "under-your-skin" remarks slipped into their speeches, represents the arrogance of that whole political party.

The mere wanting to give Rush Limbaugh a high-five from the congress was an insult worthy of this backslap from Stark.

[bobbolink]

30. Interesting that the Dems seldom take umbrage, eh?

[Lasher]

22. OK time to guess: Will we override the veto or not?

I say we won't get enough votes.

[ChairmanAgnostic]

24. we miss it by 8 votes.

surprisingly close, but no cigar. except in the white house.

[Lasher]

28. We seem to be getting closer every time there is a showdown like this

Maybe the GOP bloc is starting to crack.

I say we'll come up short by 14 votes.

[Blaze Diem]

29. I'm going for a veto-override..THis one time

I'm stickin my neck out. Trying the power of positive thinking..lol

[Lasher]

32. This is one bet I hope I lose.

Hope you're right.

[ChairmanAgnostic]

46. damn. I was off by two. wish I was off by more.

a lot more.

[MzNov]

33. it's going to be dayyyym close.

:grr:

[Lasher]

38. I think they just said we need 289 votes to override.

Can't make out where the vote stands, watching it on my PC. Gonna go look at it on TV.

[MzNov]

48. It didn't pass. am looking for final numbers.

:-(

[Clark2008]

34. If they'd use the same funding source as for the war, I'd be behind it.

I have kids and was a single Mom for years (although, I never heard of the S-CHIP program in my state).

However, trying to fund it on the backs of a dwindling sub-group is a bit much. Particularly when that group may not continue their habits and stop buying the taxable product, thus bankrupting this excellent program.

[Lasher]

36. I don't like the funding source either

But there was no way in the world we could have gotten legislation through the House and Senate with an income tax increase to pay for this. Not until we get more Democrats in Congress in November 2008. So given a choice of this way or nothing, I'm in favor.

[EST]

49. The funding was a stopgap measure.

The funding sources could be modified later.
If we could get the war stopped there'd be plenty of money.
Better yet, if they didn't give the creep in charge the hundred plus billion he wants to piss away, this program could be doubled and totally paid for for the next ten years.

There's gotta be a way the majority could punish these creeps. Block them, allow them no input, something, whatever it takes to make them the sorriest sons of bitches ever passed a law or screwed a pooch.
I am really, really pissed!

[Lasher]

50. Right, and it would have been a step in the right direction.

If I were president with a filibuster-proof congressional majority behind me, here are the first things I would do:

1. Get our troops out of Iraq in 12 months and stop spending related to the occupation (no blackwater, no military bases, no palatial embassy.

2. Restore all taxes to what they were in December 2000. (rescind 2001 & 2003 tax cuts, eliminate Paris Hilton tax cuts, treat dividends the same as earned income)

3. Single payer universal healthcare for everyone under Medicare Parts A & B.

4. Cut payroll taxes in half and leave them like that until the general fund redeems all the Social Security trust fund treasury bonds. After that eliminate the earnings cap on payroll taxes.

[EST]

51. When the hell are you runnig?

I WANNA VOTE FOR YOU!

[Lasher]

53. Ha ha, I'll be in the WV primary on the Possum Ticket

Vote for me and eat more possum!

[EST]

54. I'v never cared for possum.

I killed a couple here, in the spring. Got lots of persimmons. They turn sweet really late, here in Illinois and they are the small ones.
I like your platform, but will have to pass on the possum. It always tasted kind of "gritty" is the best I can describe it.

Lot of West--by gawd!--Virginia people on the board today. Feels like old home week to me.

[bdamomma]

37. the guy was speaking the truth. and the words were not struck

off the record either.

[bdamomma]

40. hey, what was the vote, it did pass or didn't it pass

oh shit it didn't pass?????

273-156 house fails to override vote falls short 2/3 majority.

[Lasher]

41. Measure failed, 283 yeas & 156 nays

We came up short by 16 votes.

[bdamomma]

43. shit, and who was cheering I hate these people.

[Blaze Diem]

42. I hate Republicans and Lieberman today. GLad Stark got his 2 cents in.

Bet they all have great health care.

Taxpayers cannot afford healthcare for their children but must pay for healthcare for the Fed Govt????, who just refused to cover the kids of the people who give THEM and THEIR families coverage...???????????!!!!!!!!

Show me the fairness in this picture..Why anarchy has not officially been declared.

[bdamomma]

44. oh boy oh boy, these guys have got to go.

now they are screwing children. sickening absolutely sickening.

[Blaze Diem]

47. There is not one Bush alive that knows the kind of poverty like the

kind they create for other people.

My country is a very sick place.

[bobbolink]

52. "My country is a very sick place."

Absolutely, and I'm sick of it, too!

I'd LOVE to see any one of those sick RWers in my shoes!! REally, I'd LOVE to have that kind of revenge. Yeah, I know... but DAMN.. it's the only way they are going to get it.

In this lifetime, at least.

:nuke:

[bdamomma]

45. oh boy oh boy, these guys have got to go.

now they are screwing children. sickening absolutely sickening.