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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-18-07 01:19 PM Original message |
Neo Liberalism |
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rodeodance (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-18-07 01:24 PM Response to Original message |
1. there is recent book out: The short history of Neoliberalism-----that I need to read also |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-18-07 01:24 PM Response to Reply #1 |
2. One to place on my readying list |
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baldguy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-18-07 01:26 PM Response to Original message |
3. A neolib is a neocon in a new suit. |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-18-07 01:29 PM Response to Reply #3 |
5. In order of aperance philosophically |
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mmonk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-18-07 10:26 PM Response to Reply #5 |
69. The word needs to be brought out if it is to be fought. |
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Solon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-18-07 01:27 PM Response to Original message |
4. I've found both Neo-Liberals, and Neo-Cons to be utopians of the worse kind. |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-18-07 01:31 PM Response to Reply #4 |
6. Of course |
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Solon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-18-07 01:39 PM Response to Reply #6 |
12. I think the big problem is that they mistakenly assume that free trade is the removal of barriers... |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-18-07 01:50 PM Response to Reply #12 |
18. Well I hate to quote Reagan, but there is no such thing as a free lunch |
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Solon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-18-07 02:01 PM Response to Reply #18 |
24. That's true, they also don't account for the "invisible" form of oppression... |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-18-07 02:06 PM Response to Reply #24 |
27. SHHH... you are bringing out what most folks in the US |
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Solon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-18-07 02:22 PM Response to Reply #27 |
36. You bring up an even more extreme example, "slave" isn't even an exaggeration... |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-18-07 02:25 PM Response to Reply #36 |
38. That is why I used the term |
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Solon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-18-07 02:37 PM Response to Reply #38 |
46. Indentured Servitude probably would be a more accurate term... |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-18-07 02:39 PM Response to Reply #46 |
47. True... and the practices have been around |
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hootinholler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-18-07 03:19 PM Response to Reply #27 |
48. Also the root of the US Attorney firings... |
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applegrove (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-18-07 05:41 PM Response to Reply #4 |
54. Utopians are always dangerous. That should become a maxim. It should |
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KansDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-18-07 01:31 PM Response to Original message |
7. After reading this, I now believe I have an uncle who is a "neo-liberal" |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-18-07 01:33 PM Response to Reply #7 |
8. Or he could be one type of Libertarian that draws |
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KansDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-18-07 02:05 PM Response to Reply #8 |
26. That might explain it. |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-18-07 02:09 PM Response to Reply #26 |
29. Well the retired military |
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pampango (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-18-07 02:11 PM Response to Reply #7 |
30. Actually, your uncle would appear to be a "classic liberal" according |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-18-07 02:14 PM Response to Reply #30 |
32. You are correct |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-18-07 01:34 PM Response to Original message |
9. You might consider |
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Swamp Rat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-18-07 01:39 PM Response to Reply #9 |
13. Posting again to thread where the OP has you on ignore. |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-18-07 01:42 PM Response to Reply #13 |
14. What does that have to do with anything? |
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Swamp Rat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-18-07 09:13 PM Response to Reply #14 |
59. Since you continue to mock my friends, I will respond any damn time I please. |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-18-07 01:52 PM Response to Reply #13 |
19. Cali is free to post |
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Swamp Rat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-18-07 09:28 PM Response to Reply #19 |
60. Passive-aggressive behavior is does not fly with me, especially when it is disruptive. |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-18-07 09:44 PM Response to Reply #60 |
62. Deleted message |
nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-18-07 10:13 PM Response to Reply #60 |
68. I will note |
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pampango (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-18-07 01:54 PM Response to Reply #13 |
20. How do you know if someone has you on ignore? n/t |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-18-07 01:55 PM Response to Reply #20 |
21. I've told her |
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Solon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-18-07 01:45 PM Response to Reply #9 |
15. You are correct, in a sense, I also don't believe the DLC wants to be authoritarian... |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-18-07 01:48 PM Response to Reply #15 |
17. And listeing to the leaders of the movement, currently such as |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-18-07 01:56 PM Response to Reply #15 |
22. I agree And trade is an excellent example. |
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Solon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-18-07 02:17 PM Response to Reply #22 |
33. Look at their policies on trade... |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-18-07 02:21 PM Response to Reply #33 |
35. NAFTA has many side agreements that have never |
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Solon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-18-07 02:27 PM Response to Reply #35 |
40. I know NAFTA itself limited free movement to certain professions... |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-18-07 02:30 PM Response to Reply #40 |
42. Bingo |
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pampango (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-18-07 02:36 PM Response to Reply #33 |
45. That's a really good point about democratic accountability. |
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Tierra_y_Libertad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-18-07 01:35 PM Response to Original message |
10. A neo-lib is a neo-con who says he "regrets" the civilian casualties. |
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T.Ruth2power (371 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-18-07 01:37 PM Response to Original message |
11. From link |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-18-07 01:46 PM Response to Reply #11 |
16. Oh it is part and parcel of it |
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iamthebandfanman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-18-07 02:00 PM Response to Original message |
23. Neo=Fascist no matter what word comes after n/t |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-18-07 02:03 PM Response to Reply #23 |
25. It is marketing partly |
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iamthebandfanman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-18-07 02:09 PM Response to Reply #25 |
28. yup and heres why |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-18-07 02:13 PM Response to Reply #28 |
31. Well fascism was a new marketing ploy too |
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mdmc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-18-07 10:34 PM Response to Reply #23 |
70. neo-hippies? |
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Generator (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-18-07 02:19 PM Response to Original message |
34. Third way=triangulation |
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porphyrian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-18-07 02:23 PM Response to Original message |
37. Aristotle also believed in that superstitious essentialism horse shit. |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-18-07 02:26 PM Response to Reply #37 |
39. Yes he did, but it is critical to track where ideas come from |
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porphyrian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-18-07 02:30 PM Response to Reply #39 |
41. Sure. I'm responding to those applying his antiquated beliefs to contemporary practice. - n/t |
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GETPLANING (370 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-18-07 02:34 PM Response to Original message |
43. Robert F Kennedy Jr said it best. |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-18-07 02:35 PM Response to Reply #43 |
44. WOW he is perceptive as usual |
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AntiFascist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-18-07 03:21 PM Response to Original message |
49. This is why the US government is setup as a republic, rather than a pure democracy.... |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-18-07 03:22 PM Response to Reply #49 |
50. Exactly and why I refered to Aristotle |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-18-07 05:23 PM Response to Original message |
51. Kick for the afternoon crowd |
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Elspeth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-18-07 05:33 PM Response to Reply #51 |
52. Hey Nadin, Tom Hartmann was recommending a book about neoliberalism on his show yesterday |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-18-07 05:36 PM Response to Reply #52 |
53. We can always look for it on a podcast |
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Elspeth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-18-07 09:39 PM Response to Reply #53 |
61. Where are you located Nadin? |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-18-07 09:45 PM Response to Reply #61 |
63. San Diego |
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Elspeth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-18-07 09:57 PM Response to Reply #63 |
66. Yeah. That would be fun. |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-18-07 10:12 PM Response to Reply #66 |
67. Well we went to the demonstrations |
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Elspeth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-19-07 10:41 AM Response to Reply #67 |
72. I'm almost never home, so an iPod or MP3 player for AAR seems right |
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applegrove (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-18-07 05:43 PM Response to Original message |
55. I thought the third way was between neo-liberalism and socialism? Am I misinformed? |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-18-07 05:45 PM Response to Reply #55 |
56. It is centrism you are right, according to the links on wiki |
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applegrove (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-18-07 05:46 PM Response to Reply #56 |
57. I don't like Blair but I liked the Clintons. Many people made it into the |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-18-07 05:49 PM Response to Reply #57 |
58. I liked him as well, even if he was the best |
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mod mom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-18-07 09:53 PM Response to Original message |
64. Thank you for this important information. There seems to be several folks here who pooh pooh this |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-18-07 09:57 PM Response to Reply #64 |
65. Exactly and those who poopooh it |
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LWolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-18-07 10:34 PM Response to Original message |
71. K&R n/t |
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Hidden Stillness (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-20-07 11:00 AM Response to Original message |
73. Confused About one Comment |
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