A little freeper shadenfreude story for your amusement.

[PLF]

I know this kid who has freeper parents. (Known him for a long time). The parents make alot of money but refused to help him pay for college. They sent him off to the military arguing that he could get money for college that way. Everytime I mentioned something like grants etc. the mother would yell at me about how she doesn't believe in welfare blah blah blah.

Well, that was years ago. The kid is now back and is working his way through college like he could have done to begin with. But guess what, the kid somehow came out of the military a full blown socialist! I've sat and watched him argue with his parents. They are dumbfounded. LOL!!! :rofl:

[GreenPartyVoter]

1. Cool! lol

[ThomCat]

2. It amazes me that parents with money

won't pay for college, even knowing what a vital investment that is in their child's future.
x(

[Buzz Clik]

6. It's not all that amazing.

Our kids are paying for everything but their freshman year. We have six kids, and that is as far as the money goes. We help our kids secure grants and loans, but they will appreciate the effort and the opportunity much more if they are paying for it.

Hats off to the parents who foot the entire bill, but not everyone chooses to do so even when they're able.

[Buzz Clik]

3. At least he's alive. I assume he has all his limbs.

Nothing wrong with paying for one's education, but the parents seem like real mallet heads.

[Lerkfish]

4. how is he NOT in Iraq?

they're back door drafting even 50 year olds and people who've done multiple tours.
How is this kid not over there right now?


just curious.

[PLF]

7. He was determined to get the hell out.

How he did it, I don't know.

[jmowreader]

19. Smoking a joint in the first sergeant's office usually works

Unless your first sergeant has had enough of Bush, in which case...

"Specialist, pass that over, willya?"

[Ignacio Upton]

5. Wow. His parents really are dicks

Student loans = Welfare? With welfare,you could make the case that it's for "lazy" people, but with college, you have people that are actively trying to move up the socioeconomic ladder. Besides, don't they want their son to be successful and get him out of their house quickly?

[PLF]

8. Oh, he doesn't live with them.

He is on his own and does not take a dime from them.

[Edweird]

10. I've seen that with one of my friends

His parents believed that if he had to work for it he would appreciate it more and not waste it. Kinda makes sense. It's much easier to goof off if it is on someone elses dime.

[TransitJohn]

9. That's great.

Thanks for the anecdote.

[maveric]

11. These cheap fucks made a lot of money and wouldnt pay for the kid's college?

And they made him join the military to pay his own way. Ayn Rand would be proud.
Shit! I worked double shifts in a hospital to pay for my kid's tuition to SDSU and I didnt make a lot of money.
Whats wrong with these people?
Hail to Socialism!

[noahmijo]

12. Grants equal welfare huh? anybody familiar with what happens if you drop out?

If you drop a class or out of school entirely you're paying it all back. ALL OF IT. Plus penalties.

This is the way it should be of course, but the fact is it's not welfare if you have to pay it back.

I will say though when you pay your own way through college you have a way of growing up faster and becoming far more self sufficient than any "adult" who never had to really work a day in their lives. I was a recipient of the welfare form of student loans which as of today I pay back on a monthly basis. All I can say is I'm thankful I didn't enter this form of welfare today as the rates are around 7% in Bush's America when it comes to "Student Aid" or welfare as it is put.

For you parents out there who are more than able to help your kids with college but don't you're assholes. No YOU ARE ASSHOLES and cheap ones at that. It's one thing if your kid is taking advantage of the situation and not attending classes and partying or whatever, but if you have a kid who is motivated and proved him or herself in high school and the only thing stopping that kid from being the one who mentors my 5 year old or helps my mother live another 10 years that's just being selfish and you know it. My parents couldn't afford to pay my way and it makes them upset to this day that they couldn't, which is why to me when I come across other "adults" who just scoff and say well "if my kid wants college he/she should just pay for it on their own. I just feel like smacking them for not taking advantage of the fact that so many other parents including mine would've love to be in their shoes and doing the right thing. Even if you can't afford to pay for tuition but at least let them stay home rent free so long as the grades are up and they do their share of the housework that in itself is a noble effort in my opinion. You're at least doing SOMETHING to make sure your son or daughter obtains something that will help them for life one way or the other - my generation today can't survive without a college degree. Even your basic $12 /hr job is requring a 4 year degree of some kind in today's America.

Again that's an attitude I could understand if they just screwed off in high school and want to use college as an excuse to get ripped on daddy's dime, but to screw your own child out of higher education when they will do the work and the opportunity lies in your hands - nah you're just a cheap piece of shit, all this crap about "character building" again college is one of the roughest jobs a person will ever have especially if they are pursuing a degree which would require a student to effectively set aside about 60-80 hours for their studies which is a reality and the idea that you're helping them by believing they should have a side job over at the Loco Taco in addition to their school responsibilities is ridiculous.

If you are one of those parents who believes this your ass does not belong at their graduation - you did nothing they will have done everything and the pride and sense of achievement should be theirs and theirs only to share with the people who were truly their for them.

[mantis49]

13. You don't pay back grants,

you pay back loans. If it weren't for Pell grants, I wouldn't have been able to complete my education. If this kid's parents were high income, he wouldn't have qualified for grants.

[noahmijo]

14. My point was you DO pay back grants IF

see that big IF?

IF you drop out of a class or out of school you will be paying them back plus penalties. People believe that grants are given to students who can just take them and run and I am saying NO it doesn't work that way. You don't have to pay back grants if you keep up in your classes and complete them, but should you drop a class or out of school entirely that's a different story.

Nothing wrong with this system really I do believe that if you're getting grants you should honor your obligation, but I am rebutting the theory that Grants = Free Money unconditionally.

[mantis49]

18. I misread your post earlier.

I stand corrected.

But I don't think that most people who get grants believe they can have the money without completing their classes. And I never said that "Grants = Free Money unconditionally."

[noahmijo]

21. YOU never said that. I never said you said that. I am saying about 100 ignorant idiots whom I have

spoken to who make the claim "People just steal the grant money and take off like the welfare types they are" are the ones who say Grants = free money.

[Katherine Brengle]

20. If you leave school for some reason, financial aid is rescinded and you have

to pay it.

This happened to me and I didn't know it was going to - I now owe UMass like eight grand bc my grants were taken away but I was still charged by the school.

[Kber]

15. Well, they were trying to foster independence

and they did. They should consider themselves successful parents.

My husband was essentially self supporting after he turned 18, uncluding paying for college himself. When we moved in together after college (and before the wedding!) his mother called to "forbid" it. It was kinda funny in a way.

Self sufficiency can bite back!

(and I suppose that if his parents fall on hard times and can't pay for the best of the best nursing care, it would be "wrong" in their view for their son to help out, right?)

[Raffi Ella]

16. Ha!

:evilgrin:

[rhiannon55]

17. Great story!

:)

[Cha]

22. "A full blown socialist"! YOu

crack me! Never know how life is gonna land ya.

[Recursion]

23. obSimpsons

"Hey Lisa, what's the opposite of that Schaden-thingy you mentioned?"

"Umm... sour grapes, I guess"

"Wow... those Germans have a word for everything..."

[sakabatou]

24. :: evil cackle ::