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boston bean Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-20-07 07:24 PM
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Congressman Denied Access to Martial Law Plan
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-20-07 07:28 PM
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1. What's it about?
You should give people a little play by play before they have to commit...espeicallly for those in slow download land.
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boston bean Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-20-07 07:29 PM
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2. Rep. Rich Defazio on the house floor from C-span
all riled up about Bush not letting the house homeland security committee view
plans on martial law.
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benddem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-20-07 07:59 PM
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7. It's Peter DeFazio n/t
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Xipe Totec Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-20-07 07:29 PM
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3. Or maybe, the plan only addresses one branch of government
Maybe the plan is that, if it works in Gitmo, it can work anywhere.

One branch of government,
under God,
indivisible,
with liberty and justice...






... for some.

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Golden Raisin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-20-07 10:08 PM
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8. And now we've got handy-dandy Blackwater
to deal with recalcitrant American citizens in the "homeland".
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burythehatchet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-21-07 09:44 AM
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11. I swear to you that if one of those creeps ever lays foot on my
property or on my person....
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formercia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-21-07 09:49 AM
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12. Lock and load!
:evilgrin:
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robinlynne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-20-07 07:32 PM
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4. Jesus!
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boston bean Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-20-07 07:47 PM
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5. I have serious doubt we will ever be through with him. nt
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robinlynne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-20-07 07:57 PM
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6. I'm really worried about this FISA bill passing. It feels like the final nail.
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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-21-07 09:05 AM
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9. REX 84
It stood for "Readiness Exercise 1984." During Iran-Contra, Reagan and his handlers (Poppy Bush, Louis Giufrida and Oliver North) came up with a "practice" plan to suspend the Constitution and round-up dissenters and "illegal immigrants" in the event of mass protests over U.S. military intervention in Central America. The Michigan Militia and such armed right-wing groups were to be deputized by FEMA.

Here's how Ollie North handled it when questioned by Rep. Jack Brooks (D-Texas):

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ug0IL7k3elQ



Ollie stared at Brooks and turned to whisper some question to his lawyer, Brendan Sullivan. Before they answered, Sen. Inouye, D-Hawaii, said questions like that were best answered in closed session. Here're a few more details, courtesy of Bartcop and ProRev:



News from Post-Constitutional America

PROGRESSIVE REVIEW, 1996 - The issue arose again during the Iran-Contra affair, but even in the wake of all the copy on that scandal, the public got little sense of how far some America's soldiers of fortune were willing to go to achieve their ends. When the Iran-Contra hearings came close to the matter, chair Senator Inouye backed swiftly away. Here is an excerpt from those hearings. Oliver North is at the witness table:

REP BROOKS: Colonel North, in your work at the NSC, were you not assigned, at one time, to work on plans for the continuity of government in the event of a major disaster?

BRENDAN SULLIVAN: Mr. Chairman?

SEN INOUYE: I believe that question touches upon a highly sensitive and classified area so may I request that you not touch on that.

REP BROOKS: I was particularly concerned, Mr. Chairman, because I read in Miami papers, and several others, that there had been a plan developed by that same agency, a contingency plan in the event of emergency, that would suspend the American constitution. And I was deeply concerned about it and wondered if that was the area in which he had worked. I believe that it was and I wanted to get his confirmation.

SEN INOUYE; May I most respectfully request that that matter not be touched upon at this stage. If we wish to get into this, I'm certain arrangements can be made for an executive session

With few exceptions, the media ignored what well could be the most startling revelation to have come out of the Iran/Contra affair, namely that high officials of the US government were planning a possible military/civilian coup. First among the exceptions was the Miami Herald, which on July 5, 1987, ran the story to which Jack Brooks referred. The article, by Alfonzo Chardy, revealed Oliver North's involvement in plans for the Federal Emergency Management Agency to take over federal, state and local functions during an ill-defined national emergency.

According to Chardy, the plan called for 'suspension of the Constitution, turning control of the government over to the Federal Management Agency, emergency appointment of military commanders to run state and local governments and declaration of martial law.' The proposal appears to have forgotten that Congress, legislatures and the judiciary even existed.

CONTINUED...

http://prorev.com/coup.htm



I support the United States Constitution.

My countrymen who don't are TRAITORS.
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burythehatchet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-21-07 09:43 AM
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10. Never knew that. Colonel North - Foxnooze's American Hero.
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OmmmSweetOmmm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-21-07 09:53 AM
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14. I am sure you have posted this separately in the past but it has to be seen again in its
own thread. People just don't have a clue. The vast majority of people think FEMA was created to assist in disasters but in reality it was formed for black ops.

And Octafish! You are wonderful!!!!! :hi:
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-21-07 09:50 AM
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13. of course they are denied.....impeachment's off the table...fuck congress
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OmmmSweetOmmm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-21-07 09:54 AM
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15. Thank you for posting this! DeFazio was great! Recommended. nt
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