Conyers Throws Cold Water on Cheney Impeachment Drive

[CorpGovActivist]

I was a little bit surprised to see this from Chairman Conyers...

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Cheney impeachment ready for a vote: To table it
by Matthew Hay Brown

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House Judiciary Committee Chairman John Conyers, whose panel has jurisdiction over impeachment proceedings, has described the impeachment effort as a potential disruption.

"If the speaker were to let this thing out of the box, considering the number of legislative issues we have pending," the Michigan Democrat told Fox News, "it could create a split that could affect our productivity for the rest of the Congress."

http://weblogs.baltimoresun.com/news/politics/blog/2007/11/cheney_impeachment_ready_for_a.html
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... has his thinking changed, or is impeachment still on the table for him?

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=conyers+impeachment+table

- Dave

[EFerrari]

1. It's terrible when the people disrupt the political process.

lol

[ladjf]

34. What process?

[CorpGovActivist]

52. I Sometimes Wonder...

... if the Founders could have found one more way for us to participate, besides the ballot box.

Lock Hamilton and Jefferson in a room until they came out with a recall formula...

; )

- Dave

[Gloria]

When I heard the word "productivity" I laughed.....

[CorpGovActivist]

6. Yeah, the One Activity Where W Has No Veto, No Say...

... seems like a place where Congressional Dems could make some headway.

- Dave

[truedelphi]

31. I especially enjoyed the way that Congress' productivity shattered the postage rates for

Small businesses earlier this year. <sarcasm meant>

As far as I am concrned, congress could go away for several years and we might all be better off.

Oh but then how would thye vote each other yearly pay raises??

[jackstraw45]

33. And Dems in Congress wonder why their approval will be under 10% soon...

Productivity...yes, at keeping their cushy positions on our dime.

:rofl:

[kath]

50. Hey, they're productive! It's HARD WORK keeping that powder dry!

[Mojorabbit]

2. He has been a great disappointment

to me. I have the autographed copy of his book fromt he time when he was collecting impeachment signatures for his petition in the day.

[CorpGovActivist]

36. I'm Suspending Judgment...

... until I see what he does with it now, but I'm puzzled by what passes for "strategy" in the Democratic Congressional leadership.

- Dave

[angstlessk]

3. Conyers, you mean all those bills you send up to boosh to be vetoed??

THAT productivity?? hell if I was that productive I WOULD BE FUCKING FIRED!

[Rosa Luxemburg]

4. Cheney has obviously got to him?

Impeachment is part of legislation required to put our country back on course.

[babylonsister]

5. Go figure. This is what he supposedly said in late October-is he just

pandering? I wish I knew what he was up to...

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=389&topic_id=2216499&mesg_id=2216499

[Lone_Star_Dem]

20. I guess Ms. Umolac wasn't able to convince him.

I've never thought he was in favor of impeachment of Bush and Cheney, just that he wasn't opposed to the idea of it. I think there's people he'd like to see impeached, that he may feel he actually could build a case against, but I'm not "convinced" (to borrow his wording) that our top two on the list mirror his.

What I do think is that sometimes we've taken statements such as this one below, and put all our hope into them developing into something real.

"Conyers did not announce plans to begin impeachment proceedings, which he has previously said would be politically untenable. Rather, his speech seemed to indicate that pro-impeachment activists did not yet convince him that Bush and Cheney deserved to be booted from office. A Conyers spokesman did not immediately respond to RAW STORY's request for clarification of the congressman's comments.

"I want you to know that I have no reticence, no reluctance, no hesitation to use the tool of impeachment ... whenever I feel that it is appropriate," Conyers said. "I only wish that I could be moved by a lot of people coming to my office."
http://rawstory.com/news/2007/Conyers_Impeachment_not_off_my_table_0829.html

[OzarkDem]

7. That was before those wild and crazy votes

I read it before they began voting, they may be looking at this a little differently now.

[shadowknows69]

8. Like the hour long debate today

on a resolution to congratulate the Red Sox? Is that the kind of important legislation it will be disrupting? Conyers better step up.

[B Calm]

11. ha ha

[MuseRider]

14. God that was awful

I could not believe my ears. I don't listen that often so it is probably not that unusual.

[Horse with no Name]

23. Don't forget the Country Music Appreciation legislation

that they did last week.
Priorities man, priorities. :puke:

[CorpGovActivist]

53. Like That...

... will score any red Electoral College votes.

; )

- Dave

[CorpGovActivist]

41. As a Yankees' Fan...

... I was especially disgusted by that.

; )

- Dave

[madokie]

9. I think or I wonder if maybe they have found something to hang over his head

because he sure has, seems to me like, changed his tune, like 180 degrees

[bbgrunt]

10. Conyers has been sitting on it for months--I can't imagine

the vote today is going to change his tactics. just another false hope.

[Rosie1223]

12. Ever heard of multi-tasking, John?

the rest of us do it all the time.

[CorpGovActivist]

15. Maybe He's on Cheney's "Enemies List"...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nixon%27s_Enemies_List

; )

- Dave

[MelissaB]

21. Hubby said something to this effect the other night when we were discussing our

country's sad state of affairs.

[DefenseLawyer]

13. Just when I thought our powder couldn't get any drier...

This shit is really dry now. So dry we may need a new word to fully describe its new level of dryness.

[crickets]

16. Parched. -nt

[Az]

19. Its not just dry, its dessicated

Its fossilized. Its the opposite of wet... the complete and utter opposite of wet. All moisture has been removed from it. It sucks moisture out of the air and destroys it. Use the freaking powder already!

[nashville_brook]

29. DUzy if ever there was one.

[rucky]

17. Did Conyers vote to table today?

If not, he could move on it.

:shrug:

[AntiFascist]

18. Conyers no longer stands for the rule of law...

he has become yet another cog in the political machine.

[LSK]

22. The Source is FOXNEWS n/t

[CorpGovActivist]

27. Why'd Conyers Go on FOXNews? n/t

[Atman]

24. It derails his grandstanding campaign.

Conyers has been a good man, but he's another of them who just issues memos and suggestions out his ass without ever actually doing anything about them.

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[Disturbed]

25. Maybe he received an anon not with one word on it.

ANTHRAX

[robbedvoter]

26. He voted "Nay" on tabling the impeachment resolution

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x2220817

[riverdeep]

28. I shudder to think what these caliber of officials would have done in the formation of this country.

"Go against King George? Found our own sovereign nation? Ehh, I don't know. Taxation isn't really that high. And we don't have as well trained of an army. Besides, we could be hanged just for talking like this. Let's wait another ten years, I'm sure the British Empire will crumble of it's own accord by then. Now is just not a good time."

[The Stranger]

30. They got to him.

[mmonk]

32. Process.

that's what I like as the smoke circles from my constitution.:sarcasm:

[CorpGovActivist]

35. Strategy: A Concept...

... seemingly sorely lacking from the Congressional Democratic leadership in both houses (Waxman excluded).

- Dave

[spanone]

37. the republicans had no trouble finding time for the clinton impeachment, sir

[CorpGovActivist]

39. What Would Henry Hyde Do?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Henry_Hyde

; )

- Dave

[blues90]

38. i feel most of the Dems are sell outs

I had hopes in 2006 and even before that they would show some strength or back bone , not anymore .

There are a few who stand by the people and it is clear who they are now .

I don't even have much hope of change even if we end up with a Dem for president now .

[CorpGovActivist]

40. New Story Round-up

Stories relating to the impeachment effort: http://news.google.com/news?hl=en&ned=&q=impeach&ie=UTF-8&scoring=n

- Dave

[iamthebandfanman]

42. Conyers : "Impeachment off Pelosi's table, but not mine "

http://rawstory.com/news/2007/Conyers_Impeachment_not_off_my_table_0829.html

[CorpGovActivist]

44. He's Sending Mixed Signals...

... at a time when I think the American public is starving for clear-cut ones, one way or the other.

- Dave

[Liberalynn]

43. Yeah I guess DEFENDING THE CONSTITUTION

isn't worthy of Congress' time. :sarcasm: And who do " WE THE PEOPLE think we are asking them to do it? :sarcasm:


I think I am joining Stephanie Miller in the I hate everybody party. :rofl:

It's better than :banghead:

[Matariki]

45. I'd like to think he knows what he's doing.

That he really *is* on the trail of solid evidence of wrong doing and not simply getting in the way of justice. I can't imagine the Honorable Mr Conyers giving criminals in the Bush administration a free pass.

[CorpGovActivist]

46. I Hope You're Right...

... but there comes a point after which they're being too cute by half about how they're proceeding with it.

- Dave

[Matariki]

47. Yeah, I hope so too. I really do.

I have great faith in Mr. Conyers, but it's often hard to be convinced the 'wheels of justice' are moving forward at all.

I also worry that the Republican game plan for 2008 is to foster the idea that the Democrats are useless, even with their majority. Alienate voters who would otherwise come out to vote for Democratic candidates.

[CorpGovActivist]

48. The Milquetoast Leaders...

... of the two houses of Congress are playing right into that perception.

- Dave

[Matariki]

49. sadly true. n/t

[and-justice-for-all]

51. It does not matter what they want...

it is WHAT WE WANT AND WE WANT THE TYRANNTS GONE!!!!

Who has the gun to their heads? what is keeping them from pursueing impeachment when they all know damn well that they deserve to be impeached, ALL OF THEM?! What the fuck are they so scared of that they do not do the right thing???!!!:grr:

[KoKo]

54. On "Hard Ball" tonight the MSNBC Shill Reporter repeated the DU meme that Conyers was warned by

Pelosi that "Impeachment is Off Table" and that Conyers only got his Chairmanship of the Committee because he agreed to Nancy's view." He wasn't quite that blunt...but between the lines...it's what I heard "memed on DU."

I don't believe it. I think it's spin at this point because I'm so sick of both sides spinning...and I think there are some GOOD FOLKS IN OUR HOUSE AND SENATE...still there. Do I think they are Compromised? YES...but I do think what went on today was "behind the scenes" and not what's being REPORTED in the "M$M" or on the LIBERAL BLOGS.

My gut tells me something else went on that is being conveniently spun from both sides so that the "masses" will not know. It might be good...or Dark...I'm just thinking there's something they don't want us to know YET.... So it might be working behind scenes that they just can trust anyone to tell about it...because they are working against the Darkest Forces we've seen.

Might just be my eternal optimism that we aren't TOTALLY LOST YET..here.. whatever.