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usregimechange Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-10-07 11:33 AM
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Spitzer wavers on licenses for illegals [implications for Hillary]
Edited on Sat Nov-10-07 11:33 AM by usregimechange
NEW YORK (AP) -- Facing growing pressure from his own party, Gov. Eliot Spitzer indicated he had not ruled out rescinding a heavily criticized plan to issue driver's licenses to illegal immigrants, according to published reports.

Spitzer's proposal has generated a politically charged debate that has reverberated in the presidential campaign...

The topic has become an uncomfortable one for Democrats. New York Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton, the Democratic front-runner in the presidential race, has come under scrutiny for her noncommittal remarks on the subject.

Clinton has said she supports governors like Spitzer who try to address the national problem of immigration, but has refused to say whether she supports or opposes Spitzer's actual plan.

http://www.cnn.com/2007/POLITICS/11/10/immigrant.licenses.ap/index.html
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Toots Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-10-07 11:35 AM
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1. Hillary supports Spitzer and his attempts at solving immigration problems
She never said she actually supports giving licenses to illegals. You are as bad as the GOP smear machine. Tell the truth......
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bunnies Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-10-07 12:15 PM
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2. right.
Because what she actually said was "It makes a lot of sense". Which is logically what one would say when one believes "it" is a bad idea. But no, she never actually used the word "support", or course, because definitive answers are more difficult to spin should it be necessary.
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maddiejoan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-10-07 12:23 PM
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3. Given the situation, She's right
it IS a good idea.

Spitzer has to do something in light of Federal failure, and Hillary agrees.

She has to take a different position as a NY Senator than she would as a President, because as PRESIDENT she could address the issue where it needs addressing.

Does she think Spitzer came up with a good bandaid?

yes. she does.

Does she think that the bandaid isn't enough, and if President would work to solve the problem Federally?

yes. she does.


That's her position --seems as crystal clear as it gets to me.
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bunnies Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-10-07 12:27 PM
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4. So it seems as though you agree that she supports it...
Please correct me if Im wrong. I'm not saying that I agree or disagree with the idea either way. I just have a hard time understanding how people come to the opinion that she did not support the idea.
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maddiejoan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-10-07 12:30 PM
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5. I'm saying what she said.
She UNDERSTANDS it --thinks it's a good patch over by her Governor, and that as President she work to make such patch overs unnecessary.

which, BTW is exactly what she said at the last Debate.
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bunnies Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-10-07 12:37 PM
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6. "thinks its a good patch over" = support?
or not support. In your opinion. How about supports temporarily?
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maddiejoan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-10-07 12:41 PM
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7. You are conflating two things.
Her needed stance as a NY Senator and her desire for changing the status quo as a President.

They are two different roles.
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bunnies Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-10-07 12:47 PM
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8. ok how about this...
in her current role as NY Senator she supports it until such a time when/if she becomes president then it wont be necessary. :)
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maddiejoan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-10-07 12:55 PM
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9. Sure.
That's what she is saying. I don't have a problem with that --as a New Yorker I support that position anyways myself.

we need it now --hope one day we won't.
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bunnies Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-10-07 01:24 PM
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10. excellent.
Im glad we could reach common ground. I see how the issue is more complex for here given her position in NY. If only she could have been more clear in the answer she gave, it would have saved much confusion.
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usregimechange Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-10-07 01:32 PM
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11. the public will swallow it like a fork
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bunnies Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-10-07 01:42 PM
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12. I tend to agree.
Since a whopping majority of people are against the idea under any circumstances.
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