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Wiregrass Willie Donating Member (436 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-25-07 09:58 AM
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Carville-Matalin dog and pony show on Meet the Press
Edited on Sun Nov-25-07 10:02 AM by Wiregrass Willie
How can two people who profess such opposing views of life have a happy marriage ? I would say that it's impossible. Unless what they actually believe is a lot different that what they "profess".

On the other hand, how could a Republican candidate trust -- as a strategist -- the wife of an avid Democrat to always act in their best interest ? And vice-versa with a Democratic candidate ?

Could it be that all of the people involved in the upper levels of partisan politics only "profess" to have dissimilar views in order to impress the "little" suckers who do the voting ? They certainly seem to enjoy a much cozier social life with each other than any do with average American voters.

Dammit ! I hate to be cynical concerning our masters.

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snappyturtle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-25-07 10:01 AM
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1. It does make one wonder!
I was hoping timmy would ask Mary about the Scotty revelation of this past week! Just wanted to watch her lie.
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Wiregrass Willie Donating Member (436 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-25-07 10:05 AM
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3. That's not likely.
I was hoping timmy would ask Mary about the Scotty revelation of this past week!

They don't like to embarrass each other. Someone may bet angry and not invite them to the next social event on K Street.
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snappyturtle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-25-07 10:48 AM
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8. It was only a dream of mine....I know the handwriting on the wall and Timmy. nt
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sam sarrha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-25-07 10:03 AM
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2. i saw him reciently.. he has definately gone NeoCon, i couldnt believe what he was saying
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spotbird Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-25-07 10:51 AM
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9. He, like his candidate,
have been neocon for a while.

He betrayed Kerry in Ohio in 2004.

As for their views, they agree.
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OzarkDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-25-07 11:38 AM
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22. Its all about making a buck
Carville has convinced himself that he can trust and support Republicans to protect his livelihood and still pretend he's a Democrat.

Life inside the "bubble" in DC promotes such unrealistic expectations.
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-25-07 10:06 AM
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4. who gives a flyin fuck what mary matalin thinks about anything?
Edited on Sun Nov-25-07 10:10 AM by spanone
let's talk about the republicons

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spotbird Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-25-07 10:52 AM
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10. Who gives a fuck what James Carville thinks? nt
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zabet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-25-07 10:07 AM
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5. It is possible...
because there is more to life
in a marriage than ones political
views. They probably look at it
like it is their work and try not
to bring it home with them.
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MonkeyFunk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-25-07 10:10 AM
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6. Don't be sensible
it doesn't fly around these parts.

I've known couples that were, politically, polar opposites. They had long, happy marriages.

This is their job.
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spotbird Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-25-07 10:54 AM
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11. It is possible,
fortunately that isn't a challenge for this couple.
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MonkeyFunk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-25-07 05:28 PM
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28. And what special insight
do you have into their true feelings?
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spotbird Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-25-07 10:30 PM
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39. The only truth
Edited on Sun Nov-25-07 10:44 PM by spotbird
anyone can have about someone else is from what that other person does, words are meaningless. The Mary/James team screams that clear truth from the balconies.
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MonkeyFunk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-26-07 01:34 AM
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43. Is that a poetic way of saying
you're just making shit up?
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Wiregrass Willie Donating Member (436 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-25-07 11:19 AM
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14. Could a Jew and a Nazi be happily wed ?
They probably look at it
like it is their work and try not
to bring it home with them.

If he were a carpenter and she was a hair stylist, that would be true. But politics are the core of our philosophical system. How can a woman who respects Bush find happiness with a man how thinks Hillary is presidential material ?

Unless, of course, neither one of them takes their politics too seriously and only advocate what each thinks will profit them both. In other words, they are opportunistic liars. I can accept that -- but it makes those of us who actually listen to them seem a little stupid.
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spotbird Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-25-07 11:24 AM
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17. "How can a woman who respects
Bush find happiness with a man how thinks Hillary is presidential material ? "

Is that a rhetorical question?
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zabet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-25-07 11:33 AM
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19. Out of Carville and his wife.....
which one is the Jew and
which one is the Nazi? I
thought that is who we were
speculating about, not the
whole human race.
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KittyWampus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-25-07 11:36 AM
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20. Rove stated outright he wants to kill of the Democratic Party. The plan was to make a permanent
GOP majority.

Using Nazi term is hyperbole. But ultimately, not really.
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zabet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-25-07 11:42 AM
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23. The discussion is about opposing
political views living together.
It comes down to this...
It is possible but, not necessarily probable.
The difference between potentially and realistically
can also be applied to this discussion.
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Wiregrass Willie Donating Member (436 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-25-07 11:45 AM
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24. Our political beliefs define what we are ..
Edited on Sun Nov-25-07 11:46 AM by Wiregrass Willie
Could Golda Meir have been happily married to Heinrich Himmler ? He only worked the camps during the day. Didn't he leave that behind when he went home ?

If Matalin believes all the GOP B-S, how can she love a man who is for the oppressed and the poor ? Polar opposites may enjoy some romance, but they have little to talk about at the dinner table.
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spotbird Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-25-07 11:47 AM
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25. James Carville
sabotaged the Kerry campaign in Ohio in 2004. He has no ideological differences with his wife, or the candidate he supports for that matter.

I was kidding.
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Kurovski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-25-07 10:59 PM
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40. Nice that Sen. Clinton didn't have to run against a president John Kerry in '08.
Edited on Sun Nov-25-07 11:49 PM by Kurovski
Happy coincidence, that.
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zabet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-25-07 11:49 AM
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26. Still it comes down to
Matalin and Carville. Is there really
any difference between the left ass-cheek
and the right ass-cheek? They are on
opposing sides, a little shit may come
between them but, they always come back
together.
Possible as opposed to probable.
Potentially as opposed to realistically.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-25-07 05:46 PM
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30. Yeah, that's prolly
it alright..they aren't really a fucking rat and stooge show.
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GreenPartyVoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-25-07 06:52 PM
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34. I am married to a man more theologically and politically conservative than I am. It is certainly
do-able, but then our life is not centered in politics as is the Carville-Matlin marriage. Maybe they have a no talking policy like we do. LOL
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natrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-25-07 10:27 AM
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7. is there anything to wonder about at this point?
you have to be pretty fucking stupid at this point to believe a single word out of their mouths.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-25-07 05:53 PM
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32. You hit the nail on the head!
"you have to be pretty fucking stupid at this point to believe a single word out of their mouths."

And yet..
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derby378 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-25-07 10:56 AM
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12. We're watching THE BRADY BUNCH MOVIE instead
"We're gonna keep on, keep on, keep on, keep on, keep on all through the night..."
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Blackhatjack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-25-07 10:59 AM
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13. I will never forget how Carville called Matalin to tip her off to Kerry's strategy in Ohio...
When it comes to political strategists at the upper echelons, the term 'hired gun' just automatically pops into my mind.

Even so, there are some clear lines that should not be crossed, and I would say Carville for all his pro-Democratic statements has crossed many of those lines.

Chalk it up to the bonds of marriage trump everything else. Fine. But if that is the case, there is no reason another DEmocrat should ever tell Carville anything... ANYTHING. Now that we know he will violate the implicit loyalty that goes with being a Democratic strategist, he should be excluded from internal DEmocratic discussions.
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L0oniX Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-25-07 11:22 AM
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15. I think they make a wonderful couple of asscarrots
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Kurovski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-25-07 11:01 PM
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41. Always look for the silver lining.
Edited on Sun Nov-25-07 11:15 PM by Kurovski
:thumbsup:
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Individualist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-25-07 11:23 AM
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16. "Unless what they actually believe is a lot different than what they 'profess"?
Edited on Sun Nov-25-07 11:51 AM by notsodumbhillbilly
You nailed it with that sentence. Matalin clearly believes what she professes; however, Carville is DLC through and through. No opposing views in that marriage.
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VP505 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-25-07 11:28 AM
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18. The answer to their
compatibility is simple, $$$. They work together to oppose each other for all that they can get from both sides.
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OzarkDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-25-07 11:37 AM
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21. Carville can't be trusted any longer
I'm surprised any Dem candidate would have him on their team.
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Tippy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-25-07 11:59 AM
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27. Me too....Carville sure has changed and not for the better in my humble opinion..
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-25-07 05:44 PM
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29. Yeah, they don't like
one little iota when we're cynical. Ya might get on terrorist's watch list. Or we could be branded as "haters" which really makes my day!
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Kucinich4America Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-25-07 05:47 PM
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31. Carville is no more a Democrat than his wife is.
He proved it in 2004 by selling out Kerry in Ohio, and confirmed it by trashing Dean after his 50 state strategy won the 2006 midterm.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-25-07 08:25 PM
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36. carville is a dino
at best.

How quickly people forget.."He proved it in 2004 by selling out Kerry in Ohio, and confirmed it by trashing Dean after his 50 state strategy won the 2006 midterm."
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MrMickeysMom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-25-07 05:58 PM
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33. My take- they are 2 scum sucking whores and don't have allegiance to any country-
... except the United States of Alzheimer's (I borrowed that from Studs Terkel)

Honestly, it doesn't appear either one of these bozos believes in what they do for any "party", but only how much they can reap from a corrupt system of government a la Washington, DC. Congratulations to them for another round of "rape the ratings, lets go on "Meet the Depressed"... Let's see how we can work the game again. Shit eating, no consciences, check cashing media whores, those two.

The most I can hope for Serpent face and tight ass is that their children turn understand what they are eventually and turn their backs on them. It's my hope those girls see what traitors their parents have been to their country and write it down for the ages to cluck their tongues.

Shit-kickers.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-25-07 08:28 PM
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37. I like that..Studs Terkel..
United States of Alzheimer.

That's a nice hope for their offspring and it could happen..stranger things have.
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Ivan Sputnik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-25-07 08:22 PM
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35. I think Carville and Matalan are basically in show biz
They've got a good "odd couple" gig going. Who knows if they even believe what they say?
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sandyd921 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-25-07 08:47 PM
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38. That the MSM still drags Carville out
to represent Democratic or liberal points of view is what I find totally inane (but certainly predictable).
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goforit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-25-07 11:10 PM
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42. You're a fool if you think those are two opposing views! They're both NEOCONS!
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