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Poiuyt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-09-07 08:55 PM Original message |
Church gunman killed by security guard |
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NMDemDist2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-09-07 08:57 PM Response to Original message |
1. no chit! |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-09-07 09:02 PM Response to Original message |
2. Deleted message |
Ishoutandscream2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-09-07 09:03 PM Response to Reply #2 |
3. You make excellent points |
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HughMoran (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-09-07 09:31 PM Response to Reply #2 |
7. 10,000 crazies |
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Perky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-10-07 11:08 AM Response to Reply #2 |
29. 10,000 crazy Parishioners? |
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XboxWarrior (369 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-09-07 09:05 PM Response to Original message |
4. It's COSprings..... |
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notadmblnd (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-10-07 03:47 PM Response to Reply #4 |
47. Weren't the Branch Davidians torched for stockpiling weapons? |
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ThomWV (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-11-07 08:08 AM Response to Reply #47 |
55. Don't you see the difference? The Branch Davidians weren't smart enough to contract it out |
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bemildred (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-09-07 09:06 PM Response to Original message |
5. It's about the money, eh? |
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Moses2SandyKoufax (621 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-09-07 11:33 PM Response to Reply #5 |
19. Yep, pretty much. |
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pingzing58 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-09-07 09:24 PM Response to Original message |
6. Many large churches have security watching the parking lot and directing traffic. |
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Perky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-10-07 11:08 AM Response to Reply #6 |
30. And alot hire off-duty cops. |
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Hoof Hearted (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-09-07 09:37 PM Response to Original message |
8. That was the first thing hubby and I thought too! We just looked at each other with our |
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knitter4democracy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-09-07 09:44 PM Response to Reply #8 |
10. It makes you wonder who they're keeping out. |
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krispos42 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-10-07 01:02 AM Response to Reply #8 |
25. Well, they were right, weren't they? |
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Judi Lynn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-10-07 12:59 PM Response to Reply #8 |
37. The security guards' bibles have asterisks by "Thou shalt not kill" so they can qualify that |
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Sanctified (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-10-07 01:07 PM Response to Reply #37 |
41. Depends on your bible. |
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Critters2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-10-07 03:46 PM Response to Reply #41 |
46. The Hebrew says "kill". nt |
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Sanctified (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-10-07 05:10 PM Response to Reply #46 |
48. Really I thought the Torah text used the word ratsah instead of harag. |
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NutmegYankee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-10-07 06:21 PM Response to Reply #46 |
49. The Hebrew says "Murder" n/t |
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Mike Daniels (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-11-07 08:31 AM Response to Reply #37 |
57. So a guard who has the means to stop a massacre should just stand by and let it happen? |
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Redstone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-09-07 09:42 PM Response to Original message |
9. Guns, guns, guns. What does it tell you when there are guns at church? |
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XboxWarrior (369 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-09-07 09:52 PM Response to Reply #9 |
11. Guns? |
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proud2BlibKansan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-09-07 10:04 PM Response to Reply #11 |
13. Who would Jesus shoot? |
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krispos42 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-10-07 01:07 AM Response to Reply #13 |
27. The Jesus that Bush worships loves bustin' caps in evildoers... |
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Beerboy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-10-07 01:03 PM Response to Reply #27 |
39. Post of the week! |
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Beerboy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-10-07 01:00 PM Response to Reply #11 |
38. LOL! |
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slackmaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-09-07 10:56 PM Response to Reply #9 |
17. It tells me that particular church planned better than most places |
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QC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-09-07 10:56 PM Response to Reply #9 |
18. Good thing somebody at that church had one. |
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Beerboy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-10-07 12:55 PM Response to Reply #9 |
36. Well, they are persecuted, so they say. n/t. |
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JackBeck (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-09-07 10:00 PM Response to Original message |
12. They could have been hired, or maybe armed, |
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Rosemary2205 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-09-07 10:07 PM Response to Original message |
14. In my state it's a requirement |
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Dervill Crow (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-09-07 10:49 PM Response to Reply #14 |
15. I remember the term "church family." |
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JVS (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-09-07 10:55 PM Response to Original message |
16. ooohhhh oooohhh oooohhhh Mr. Kotter! Mr. Kotter! |
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MiniMe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-10-07 12:08 AM Response to Original message |
20. If only the parishioners were armed this wouldn't have happened |
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Sanctified (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-10-07 12:09 AM Response to Reply #20 |
22. One was armed. |
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MiniMe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-10-07 12:08 AM Response to Original message |
21. How big is the parking lot for a church that big? |
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Hoof Hearted (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-10-07 12:29 AM Response to Reply #21 |
24. I found it on Google Earth. No parking garage just a MASSIVE parking lot all the way |
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progressivebydesign (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-10-07 12:16 AM Response to Original message |
23. Hmm.. glad he stopped the killing, but an armed guard in a church? |
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benEzra (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-10-07 11:01 AM Response to Reply #23 |
28. Synagogues have been doing this for a long time, with reason. (n/t) |
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LeftyMom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-10-07 12:46 PM Response to Reply #28 |
34. All the Synagogues and most of the Mosques/and Islamic Centers and associated schools here |
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rockymountaindem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-10-07 01:06 PM Response to Reply #28 |
40. There's always one or two at my synagogue on the High Holidays |
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paulk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-10-07 01:03 AM Response to Original message |
26. I don't know if they normally have armed guards there |
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CT_Progressive (889 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-10-07 11:11 AM Response to Original message |
31. Its pretty sad... |
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pipoman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-10-07 11:31 AM Response to Original message |
32. At the news conference |
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Tejas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-10-07 01:53 PM Response to Reply #32 |
42. speaking of "nail-on-the-head" |
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catmandu57 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-10-07 12:33 PM Response to Original message |
33. Sad. Jesus would have a field day |
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Beerboy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-10-07 12:52 PM Response to Original message |
35. Armed Security is the real high priest, |
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DS1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-10-07 01:54 PM Response to Original message |
43. In other news, the Phelps clan has landed |
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RamboLiberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-10-07 02:11 PM Response to Original message |
44. The pastor has used her as a personal bodyguard |
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benEzra (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-10-07 03:41 PM Response to Original message |
45. That "security guard" was apparently an ordinary parishioner with a carry license... |
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Fierce (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-11-07 08:04 AM Response to Reply #45 |
54. She was a police officer in Minneapolis, but had been fired. |
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piedmont (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-10-07 06:25 PM Response to Original message |
50. Pro 2nd amendment folks don't want every person to have a gun. Just enough people. |
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applegrove (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-10-07 06:55 PM Response to Original message |
51. Tragic news. And what does it say about a country that needs security guards? I mean |
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jody (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-11-07 07:09 AM Response to Original message |
52. The guard should not have been armed. She should have called 911 instead of killing a poor criminal |
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michreject (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-11-07 07:53 AM Response to Reply #52 |
53. Love the sign................nt |
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jmg257 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-11-07 08:15 AM Response to Original message |
56. Glad to see someone is taking the security of the parishineers seriously; |
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