Do you believe that the Secret Government that Bill Moyers...

[Mr_Jefferson_24]

Poll question: Do you believe that the Secret Government that Bill Moyers...

...reports on in the video linked below (a report now 20 years old) is still alive and well and operating virtually unchecked and with complete impunity?

And secondly, if so, do you suspect the Bush/Cheney administration may have fallen badly out of favor with them?

http://youtube.com/watch?v=_sstDwKTCpM

[Lars39]

1. Need a yes, and not sure.

:hi:

[Mr_Jefferson_24]

6. That might have been better -- I chose to use "suspect"...

...rather than "believe" in the second question so that the 'not sures' could still vote yes -- who can, after all, really be sure?

[Hydra]

2. Bushco is still on program

or they'd be six feet under.

[Mr_Jefferson_24]

10. For a President to fall out of favor with the ...

...Ruling Class in the U.S. can be bad for his/her health -- history has been pretty clear on that.

[blm]

11. They switched from aggressive fascism to smiley face fascism then back to aggressive

and now it was turn for smiley face fascism again - but, maybe Democrats will wake up in time to make sure that doesn't happen.

This gang was at its weakest and most exposed by 1993 thanks to Democratic lawmakers like John Kerry, Henry Gonzalez and Joe Moakley.

A Dem president friendly to the fascist cause deep-sixed all the outstanding matters in those illegal operations and BushInc was allowed to grow STRONGER throughout the 90s without the scrutiny and oversight of congress.

[annabanana]

3. Yes.. and I don't know...

They SHOULD have fallen out of favor.. . . But the fact that they can still do pretty much whatever they want to makes me wonder.

OTOH.. Maybe they screwed the pooch so badly that B*shCo could bring down the whole house of cards, so they have to keep propping them up.

[AndyTiedye]

4. They Are Still Clinging Doggedly to the PNAC/AIPAC Agenda

even in the face of all evidence.

[Mr_Jefferson_24]

12. True enough -- but have they done it with sufficient...

...competence, efficiency, and prudence (Papa Bush liked to use that word) to avoid falling out of favor with the dark side?

[L. Coyote]

5. The Bush Junta is the Secret Government of the Iran-Contra days. The Enterprise is profitting.

Lake Resources is making a big run on 2008!

[Mr_Jefferson_24]

8. I think the case can certainly be made...

...that those who operated covertly and illegally from the shadows 20 years ago, seized power via coup d'etat in 2000, illegitimately retained it through election theft in Ohio (among other states) in 2004, and remain in power today.

[blm]

18. They grew STRONGER in the 90s without the congressional oversight Bush1 was getting

and there is continuing PROOF that BushInc never stopped its drugrunning operation -

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2007/12/12/19210/608/933/420107

CIA plane crashes with 6 TONS of cocaine and few in the corpmedia will even acknowledge it.

Good old days never left.

[flashl]

7. Yes

[Truth2Tell]

9. Yes and Maybe. n/t

[Octafish]

13. When COG kicked-in after 911, they warned Bush and his cronies. Not the DEMs.

Continuity of Government plans involved saving the pimply hides of Republicans.
No Democrats were invited to the secure, undisclosed location.

Know your BFEE: The Secret Government

Bush is just their front-monkey. Be assured, they keep him on a tight leash.

[Mr_Jefferson_24]

14. That's a great thread, thanks for posting the link...

...and if you want to go back just a little further in time:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x2400597

[Octafish]

15. Thanks for the link. Tom_Paine's good people.

Too bad so many Bushes aren't. Here's another blast from their past:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=389&topic_id=872755

Take two. "They" 're small.

W Bush Fulfills His Grandfather Prescott's Dream

Thank you for an excellent thread, Mr_Jefferson_24. Really appreciate that you understand what it is that is going on in the U.S.A.

[blm]

20. We're growing our numbers, Octafish.

It's the only chance we have against the corrupt stewards of closed government.

[Mr_Jefferson_24]

16. Kick for a larger sample. nt.

[Mr_Jefferson_24]

17. Kick for a larger sample. nt.

[malaise]

19. Yes and No

but the real system is catching up with those criminals.