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GuvWurld Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-15-07 08:26 PM
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Hand-Counting Paper Ballots Proposed In NY District Court (X)
Originally blogged at We Do Not Consent:
http://wedonotconsent.blogspot.com/2007/12/hand-counting-paper-ballots-proposed-in.html

Hand-Counting Paper Ballots Proposed In NY District Court
By Dave Berman
12/15/07

In March 2006, the US Department of Justice began legal proceedings ostensibly aimed at bringing the state of NY into compliance with the Help America Vote Act (HAVA). As of today, NY is still the only state that hasn't been bullied into outsourcing its election administration to the secret counting of a private corporation. Arguments will be heard in Case No. 06-CV-0263(GLS), US v NY State Board of Elections, starting next Thursday, December 20.

Yesterday was a big day in the long arc of this story. Attorney Andrea Novick filed a Memorandum of Law of Proposed Amici Curiae, also called an amicus brief or a friend of the court brief, on behalf of 33 election integrity advocates and organizations proposing to hand-count the two federal races on the November 2008 ballot. While it was Novick who filed the brief, it will be Jonathon Simon who will be in the courtroom with the possibility of a rare and extraordinary opportunity to make oral arguments.

There are many documents related to this case and I have started collecting some of them in a new folder in the GuvWurld News Archive. In particular, there are some very impressive declarations filed to provide the credentials of those involved in crafting the brief. You can now also see the projections for 15 NY counties developed using Rady Ananda's voter turnout projections and the hand-count forecast tool I built. Our methods are detailed in our declarations and the brief. It's all in that new folder.

More documents will surely be added in the days and weeks ahead. As of this hour, I am withholding my declaration as corrections are being made. It is uncertain whether an amended declaration can be filed, but when the update is complete you can at least locate it as described above. This is so unfortunate because we all spent ridiculous amounts of time this week, only to get snagged by document version control.

Here are some of the highlights of the brief:
p.7 of the brief - crux of our "proposal":

As the United States' memorandum has made clear, HAVA recognizes the State's right to hand count paper ballots, as long as Ballot Marking Devices (BMDs) are provided in every polling place, producing a paper ballot identical to the paper ballots marked by able voters. Thus, were the Court to direct a hand count of the two Federal races, the defendants would not have to choose between purchasing failed computerized systems or remaining in violation of a federal statute, thereby subjecting the State to this Court's directing an outside party to decide how New York's elections will be held in 2008.

p.11 - closing of the summary section; features some points made previously by Paul Lehto and here at WDNC:

Amici Curia respectfully urge the Court to act as the judiciary has and must when government's potential conflict of interest, in having the authority to determine the means by which it may be re-elected, would so regulate the people's elections as to thwart the full exercise of the franchise as secured by the Constitution. The right to choose our representatives means nothing if the people cannot know - not merely trust - that their will has been accurately reflected by the results of our elections. That right was not granted to the people, but rather was deemed "unalienable," by nothing less than our Declaration of Independence. Governments' role is to secure that right. There is nothing secure about voting on computerized systems which have shown themselves time and again to be readily corruptible while defying detection. We implore the Court to protect the citizens' means to observe and secure our elections so that we may see, not trust, that our consent to the outcome was respected.

page 16 - from the core of the argument, a fine distillation of a point this country should have seen about five years ago as "Do not pass go, do not collect $200":

Not only have the essential democratic safeguards been obliterated by oblique computerized processes, but all of the voting systems sold by these voting vendors have been revealed to be seriously vulnerable to attacks that can change the outcome of entire elections. As demonstrated below and in the declarations of Lukacher, Anderson, Simon and Freeman, computerized voting offers by far and away the greatest opportunity for theft this nation has ever seen. After 200 years of successive legislative efforts to protect the integrity of our elections by minimizing the opportunities for tampering, we are witnessing a complete reversal wherein the opportunities for tampering are massively multiplied, enabled solely by the introduction of computers into our electoral process. Such action is in direct conflict with our Constitution.

pages 23-24 - another part of the main argument, and another point we have tried to make here in Humboldt about how unsavory (really how unthinkable) it is now to do business with Diebold/Premier:

New York's Procurement Laws prohibit the State from entering into contracts with "non-responsible" vendors26. The voting vendors who sell America's computerized voting systems share a history of multiple infractions of "non-responsible" conduct as defined in New York's laws -- including, in addition to failed performance and unethical conduct, criminal indictments and convictions, bid rigging, computer-aided embezzlement, money laundering, tax evasion, bribery and kick-back scandals to name a few -- any one of which would render them ineligible to do business in New York.
26 http://www.wheresthepaper.org/Memo1NYSvendorsProhibited.pdf, http://www.wheresthepaper.org/UpdatedProcurementVendorIrresponsibility070822.pdf,
http://www.votersunite.org/info/IrresponsibleVendors.pdf and see Lukacher Declaration.
Two memorandums (amici's exhibits "B" and "C") containing 80 pages of documented reports of vendors disqualifying "not-responsible" conduct were submitted to the SBOE and various agencies within the Governor's office. The defendants ignored the evidence, avoiding their affirmative obligation to investigate these vendors.

The evidence of the disaster of computerized voting presented herein is only the tip of the proverbial iceberg. In urging that New York become HAVA-compliant by purchasing this equipment, the United States' motion fails to mention that none of this equipment can provide a secure, reliable or accurate election result. The United States cannot justifiably compel the purchase of equipment that would disenfranchise millions by virtue of these machines' unacceptably high security vulnerabilities and documented failures.

New York should be free to abide by its rich democratic history in which the rights of citizens to oversee and monitor their elections has historically and progressively been recognized, respected and upheld as constitutionally required. This would be impossible if New York State were forced to purchase these machines, as the United States is urging this Court to direct.

pages 26-27

To satisfy the United States' motion that the State become HAVA-compliant for the federal election (since that is the only election relevant to the federal statute), the State only has to hand count the two Federal races in 2008, providing BMDs in every polling place so that disabled voters could create the same paper ballots as abled voters. Amici have gone to great lengths to assist New York by determining what would be required to hand count these two races, demonstrating as well how simple and feasible it would be for New York to return to a hand count for 2008's Federal election.

Rady Ananda and Dave Berman have analyzed the official data for each New York county and, using a forecast tool designed by Mr. Berman expressly for this purpose, have demonstrated that New will require only four citizen-counters in each polling place to be able to count the two races in less than four hours.29
29The forecast tool is based on the procedures as explained to Mr. Berman by New Hampshire's Assistant Secretary of State, Anthony Stevens. Forty-five percent of New Hampshire's polling places still hand count their ballots and, as explained in greater detail in the Tobi declaration, New Hampshire's ballots are far more complex, and their precincts larger, than New York's. {WDNC: Note that the first part of this footnote is among the points of clarification in my declaration. I did not attend Assistant Secretary Stevens' presentation or ever meet or speak with him. The forecast tool was inspired by a .pdf of Stevens' presentation on the website of Democracy For New Hampshire.}
page 29 - arguing that lever machines are HAVA compliant, and that failing to approve HCPB, all levers would still be preferable to anything electronic:

Lever machines do produce a permanent paper record. Some lever machines imprint the total number of votes cast onto a piece of paper. At the close of the election, poll workers remove the paper from the lever machine and use it to create another paper record of the tallies. Other lever machines don't produce an imprinted piece of paper with the tallies, but the poll workers perform the same function, taking the voting tallies off the lever machines and writing them down on a piece of paper, thus satisfying HAVA's requirement for a permanent paper record.

The United States' argument that the lever machine doesn't produce a permanent paper record with manual audit capacity presumably ignores the human being's role as part of the "voting system". However, just as with a hand count, a human being is very much a part of the voting system, and in the case of lever machines a human being is producing the permanent paper record required by HAVA.29
29It is worth observing that there are voting systems which the United States considers HAVA-compliant that clearly do not "produce a permanent paper record with a manual audit capacity" as required by the statute. Certainly no paperless DRE can be said to produce a permanent record, but the United States is not suing those states with paperless DREs to compel their compliance with HAVA. Moreover the paper produced by DREs with printers attached to them, creating so-called voter verified paper audit trails (VVPATs), have been shown unreliable for auditing purposes in that they have been known to have as high as 20% unreadability, and as corroborated in the recent reports from California, can be rigged to correspond to the electronic tally, neither equating with the machine's official tally.
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I have immense respect and admiration for all the people working on this project, many of whom I haven't named and some of whom I may not even realize are on the team. I believe that everyone understands what a long shot this is but I have seen nothing but positivity toward the project. We know that regardless of the outcome of the case, in which we are neither plaintiff nor defendant, we have created a new body of work that advances the election integrity movement and will serve as a future reference countless times. In this way, I again cite confluence with the Voter Confidence Committee's Humboldt hand-count campaign. In Thursday's media advisory, we did not just request public information from the Registrar, we made a leap in our framing. Months ago, when our Report on Election Conditions in Humboldt County was first released, we postured "Hand-Counting Paper Ballots Is On The Table - Let The Community Dialog Begin!" Like the District Court in NY, with enough information to demonstrate the time, cost, labor and other logistical concerns, the Humboldt community shall now be asked to judge the viability of our proposal.
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whistle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-15-07 08:33 PM
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1. Should be mandated across the country, based on what 200,000 to
...300,000 precincts across the country and 100,000,000 votes, that is an average of 400 to 500 votes per precinct. What is the big deal? These can be cast on paper and counted by hand and still be fully reported by the following morning.
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GuvWurld Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-15-07 08:44 PM
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2. Yes, as we wipe the sand from our eyes
...we realize torture is not really debatable and hand-counting paper-ballots is not really impractical.
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Toots Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-16-07 09:48 AM
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7. Canada counts their votes by hand and does it overnight.
They don't seem to have any problems. Hmmmm
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Peace Patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-15-07 09:50 PM
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3. So why is New York the one state not yet inflicted with "trade secret" vote counting?
Why has the EAC (Bushite-dominated) been so slow to move against them? Why were their U.S. Senators, Clinton and Schumer (not known for their love of democracy), the ONLY TWO Senators of either party in the entire Anthrax Senate to vote against the "Help America Vote Act" (e-voting boondoggle; and the moment of the fascist coup--Oct. 2002)?

Oh, the Bushites and their "trade secret" voting corporations are NOW aggressively going after the New York election theft market, but not when it might have counted for something, as to influencing the rest of the country, back during the 2002 to 2004 period, when these lethal machines were being fast-tracked everywhere else. That's my theory. New York is grand central for most of the war profiteering corporate news monopolies, and special care was taken not to alarm New York voters--who might have pressured, say, the New York Times, to raise troubling questions, during the crucial period of proliferation and entrenchment in the rest of the country.

I've been puzzling over Clinton's and Schumer's votes against HAVA--the ONLY Senate votes against HAVA--for some time. Both are super-corporatists and big war supporters. Can't imagine they'd care about secret, corporate vote counting by Bushite corporations. Indeed, it's the sort of thing they would be all for. And, for a while, I toyed with the idea that it might be a hopeful sign that a Hillary regime would at least tolerate election reform. But I think the above explanation fits reality much better. She and Schumer could vote against it in the confidence that it would pass (everybody else, including all Senate Democrats and about half of the House Democrats voted FOR it). They could therefore keep the issue from raising red flags in New York, heart of the country's news monopolies. And the EAC would ease back, not press on missed deadlines, etc., for a time. Once the system was installed nationwide, then they would Bushify New York elections as well.

They may fail--now that red flags are being raised about this system all over the country--but it won't matter that much, as to national policy. Election outcomes everywhere else in the country can be switched to fascist candidates with a few lines of secret code, invisibly, leaving no trace. A third of the country is still without any audit/recount system at all, and the rest have "trade secret" code, owned and controlled by rightwing Bushite corporations, in their touchscreens, in their optiscans, in their scanning of absentee ballots, and in the central tabulators, with a miserably inadequate 1% audit.

HOWEVER, the magnificent fight that activists are mounting in New York against these election theft systems, may have enormous influence on what happens in other states, at this point. The evidence is in, on the these machines. They are extremely hackable and insecure. Patching those security holes is very expensive, and more pop up all the time (like the buckets in "The Sorcerer's Apprentice"). And the whole system is inherently non-transparent, and thus fraudulent on its face (with the only remedy being a paper ballot backup for every vote, and handcounting 100% of those ballots, as a check on machine fraud). (The Venezuelans handcount 55% of the votes in an OPEN SOURCE CODE system. That is not enough in a "trade secret" code system run by Bushites.)

Many county and state election officials are coming under increasing criticism for holding unverifiable elections, and pouring taxpayer money into these expensive, crapass machines. Corporate lobbying is rampant among them, and it's only a matter of time before corruption begins to be uncovered. The only safe position, as to election officials' careers, will become full verifiability. And New York insisting on full verifiability will greatly aid honest election officials everywhere, and citizen election reform movements, and it will put corrupt officials on notice.

Hats off to New York anti-election fraud activists, and to GuvWurld, for your unrelenting efforts to restore our democracy! Cheers to you! You are my heroes!



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NOTE: I haven't checked the state lists of verifiable vs. unverifiable systems lately, but last time I checked, I believe that Vermont and maybe New Hampshire still have verifiable elections. Oregon uses all mail-in voting, but I believe most of the ballots are then scanned into an electronic system, not handcounted. About half of Californians are now choosing absentee ballot voting--in a desperate attempt to get around the rigged machines--but the California system has the same flaw as Oregon's--the AB votes are mostly scanned, not counted. New York uses their old, reliable and virtually unriggable lever machines. Connecticut, which has the old lever machines, recently introduced electronic tabulators, which I think may account for Joe Lieberman beating Ned Lamont. CT's other US Senator, Christopher Dodd, was one of the chief engineers of the HAVA coup, working with the biggest crooks in the Anthrax Congress, Tom Delay and Bob Ney.
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GuvWurld Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-16-07 12:36 AM
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4. "crapass machines"
I don't mean to look right past all the serious stuff you said, but I haven't heard this term before and it made me, well, chortle is probably the word.

Interesting thoughts on the Senators. Thanks as always for your astute observations, Peace Patriot, and for your encouragement.

:toast:
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GuvWurld Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-16-07 12:49 AM
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5. For more on this story, Rady Ananda has awesome quotes from the Declarations
Most or all of the people and groups who signed on to the amicus filed a Declaration. They are dynamite and make an impressive collection. Rady Ananda wrote an article excerpting lots of these. It is a perfect companion piece to the OP.

http://www.opednews.com/articles/genera_rady_ana_071215_i_am_voter_hear_me_r.htm
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GuvWurld Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-16-07 04:39 AM
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6. Rady's article now has its own DU thread
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