Questions regarding Obama

[boston bean]

Last night I made a post about Obama's youthful cocaine use. Yes I was flamed, maybe for good reason, I may be a judgemental prude, but there are some things that still concern me about his drug use.

I do not hate Obama, although I do not support him. I am an Edwards supporter because I feel he will be the best candidate to win the general, for many reasons. I have been very critical of Hillary Rodham Clinton as well, her Iran resolution for starters and her triangulation. Dodd would be my second choice.

I want a candidate who can win the general and leave the republicans with the least openings and I do feel Edwards is that person. I may be wrong, but that is my heartfelt opinion.

Some of the reasons I am concerned about Obama's cocaine use is because there are many questions that remain unanswered that need to be answered before he gets the democratic nomination.

Some of the questions are:

How often did he use cocaine?

How old was he when he stopped using cocaine?

How did he use cocaine, snort, smoke or shoot it up etc.?

If he was a poor college student, how did he get the money for cocaine?

Did he ever sell cocaine?

Now I know these questions will get replies stating that I am freeper. But these questions need to be answered before he becomes the nominee.

If we as responsible voters don't get the answers to these questions prior to him getting the nod, rest assured that the republicans will get these answers for us swiftboat style. He has not innoculated himself because he made a small admission. These are fair questions that need to be answered before we vote for someone who may be fatally flawed in the general election. No, I have no evidence, just questions that need to be answered and isn't that what this process is about?


This is my opinion as a dedicated liberal and I just don't want us to leave unanswered questions that may come back to haunt us. This is the fight of a lifetime and we better be more critical of our candidate than the republicans will be.

[jefferson_dem]

1. Wowie. You managed to drop the "C word" seven times in one post!

Well done.

I can't imagine why you were flamed in your previous post... :eyes:

[boston bean]

2. I always thought the C word stood for something else. It wasn't intentional, what word should I

have used?

[jefferson_dem]

5. This one -

"whogivesafuck"

[Little Star]

22. Cocaine is cocaine no matter how the gang tries to belittle you.

People are serving time for using it. Nuff said about Cocaine for now! Lets try the I word--Illegal. Lets try the W word--worse as in worse than pot! Even I want pot legalized but cocaine never!!!!! Most main stream americans can tell the difference between pot and cocaine. He opened this Pandora's box with his lack of judgment book and now is upset that people want to know the specifics. Too Bad! He is running for The President of the United States as a Democratic Candidate fer cripes sake. Do we want a GWB cocaine twin as our nominee? I don't TYVM!

[Windy]

3. Oh dear god. Hear we go. Go and read his book...

He tried pot and cocaine when he was young. He wasn't an addict. He wasn't a dealer.

Please stop spreading inflammatory garbage in an attempt to boast the poll numbers of whatever candidate you say you're supporting.


This is old news that the candidate revealed himself.


If youthful drug experimentation is all that they can find on Obama, then he must be a saint.

[Little Star]

33. How long have you been personal friends with Barak?

You sure seem to know him personally. Would you swear on your mothers head that what you stated is the absolute truth. Would you swear to it in a court room under oath? Gimme a break with all those absolute certitudes.

[AlCzervik]

4. you made a judgment call on him already about drugs so really why do you

want to know the details now? Maybe you have found out yesterday.

[boston bean]

6. What do you really know about it. That is why I think it's important to ask.

Of course we should never try to think of what the republicans might stoop too and not shoot ourselves in the foot. These are reasonable questions. He has no problem talking about it in general terms. I want specifics.

If you can find me quotes from him answering these questions, I will be grateful.

[jefferson_dem]

7. Why so *concerned* that you need specifics?

Stop pawning your own agenda off on some unidentified repugs.

[boston bean]

10. If he is the nominee, I think you might eat those words. We cannot

hide under a rock and not try and anticipate what the enemy will do.

[jefferson_dem]

11. How about we start by defending him against these slimy smears right now.

Let's work on our talking points about how this is nasty, dirty politics and a totally unfair line of questioning together.

Ok, Edwards supporting, "dedicated liberal." You with me?

[boston bean]

12. I am not sliming him. I am asking questions that are fair. nt

[jefferson_dem]

14. Really? Why are these fair questions?

Seems to me that you are in lock-step with those Repugs that you claim will be looking into this stuff in the GE. If not, why not condemn it?

[boston bean]

25. They are fair questions because

he wrote a book and opened the door. Not to smart of him. Now people want to know the details. Anything wrong with wanting him to answer the things he left out? Maybe some of us are just more curious than incurious GWB. What would be wrong with him filling in the blanks he left out? Other candidates have to explain what people want to know. Why should he be treated any different? Should he answer them now or when he is being swift-boated by the republicans in the general? I just don't get that kind of logic.

[AlCzervik]

9. you know what, you can find you quotes, you have a computer and the internet

i found plenty of them, really it's that difficult and imo you should have done this yesterday. And BTW Obama is choice B for me.

[upi402]

8. Christ Hillary, Bush did coke and precedent is set. n/t

[boston bean]

19. Hillary? Where is the link? Never heard that before.

[Bucky]

46. Sure, it's how she screwed up the courage to murder Vincent Foster

With her own nutcracker, of course.

[blm]

13. No concern for the REAL problem Dems have who protected Poppy Bush's drugrunning

operations through the CIA for over the decades, including the dumping
of all that cheap IranContra cocaine BY THE TONS into cities all over the country that ran thru Mena Airport, and especially the targeting of black communities as part of Poppy Bush's operations?


BET documentary series, American Gangster, has an entire episode based on the Gary Webb report from 1996 of CIA drugrunning that ended up on LA streets.

I hope Obama USES this opportunity to demand those books be re-opened. Then let's hear what the Republicans, the Bushes and Bill Clinton will have to say about those books that they would likely prefer to remain closed.

[Little Star]

37. I for one, am with you about re-opening those books.

The Bush's are really the scum of the earth.

[whistle]

15. Shouldn't those questions have been asked of George W. Bush?

...And shouldn't they still be asked of him?

[jefferson_dem]

16. The OP seems to be more interested in asking these questions of Democrat Obama.

I wonder why that is...

[Bluebear]

17. Yes, but certainly you not are using a "Clinton did it too!!" defense?

[whistle]

18. Not at all, it just seems to me that overlooking and even covering up the obvious

...cocaine and alcohol abuses of our current pResident and who personally denies that fact whenever he is asked, I think establishes the precedent that such questions are "off-the-table" for future candidates. If the most incompetent laziest corrupt president in the nation's history gets a pass by the establishment and voters for claiming he has Christ in his life, then certainly any candidate who has found God or Allah or any Power greater than themselves should have the opportunity to stand on that precedent. Otherwise, it is a double standard and in the case of Obama transparent racism!

Remember also that Bush's substance abuse cover-ups involve the destruction and falsification of records and possible evidence of crimes, not just casual recreational uses. Shrub* broke laws and then used influence to have those crimes expunged.

[boston bean]

20. Bush Is their shame, not ours.

We should stand for much better than Bush.

[Little Star]

21. There are none so blind as those who refuse to see!

His history is a loss for us in the general. I would post some pretty interesting stuff that a R senator has dug up on Obama and they are killers of our chance at the White House. That is against DU Rules, so I won't. They are already loading their guns, if he gets the nod, what they did to Kerry will seem mild. He has made quite a few poor judgments in his personal life. All I want is for us to pick someone who can take back the White House from those Bastids!!! We can't keep our head in the sand just because we want legalized drugs! We need to win the general!!! Who has the best chance and the least baggage?????

[pampango]

23. Perhaps you are a Hillary supporter, in which case, my observation does not apply to you.

But I do tire of reading posts supporting Edwards, whom I do like, as the most "electable" of the top three. Sometimes the fact that he is the only white male among the three is specifically cited. Other times it is left unstated. At least you didn't go with the "this election is too important" to risk a woman or Black candidate, as if some future election will be sufficiently "unimportant" to allow for such a risky strategy.

[Terran]

24. How is it aganst DU rules?

If you have truthful and relevant information about his personal life that you feel is that bad, then I pretty much feel the need to know it. What are you suggesting here?

[Little Star]

31. The Du rules will not allow me to link to

republican websites. But Republicans are out there uncovering Obama's past. I think they want to get prepared for the general election if he gets the Dem nod. It is not pretty (and maybe not even true) but we should keep our friends close and our enemies even closer. It seems to me they are quietly stocking up the weapons for use in the general election. We should know what their arsenal holds.

Try googling: Media begins to question Barack Obama's fantasies
Try googling: Is Barack Obama a doper, or just a dope?
Try googling: Andy Martin under attack by Barack Obama's "Disinformation Doctors"

I have acknowledged that the googles will bring you to Republican websites. I guess if we can cut and paste and even link from Free Republic maybe this will be acceptable.

My whole message is we better know if the Brooklyn Bridge is really for sale before we buy it.

[Neecy]

26. *ding ding ding* You win!

This is the most disgusting post I've read yet on DU, and I've been here almost from the start.

[blogslut]

27. So, why not ask them all these questions?

As I said before when you tried this, I operate under the assumption that THEY ALL DID COKE. So here goes:

Mr. Edwards, Ms. Clinton, Mr. Dodd, Mr. Biden, Mr. Richardson, Mr. Obama, Mr. Gravel and Mr. Kucinich,

How often did you use cocaine?

How old were you when you stopped using cocaine?

How did you use cocaine, snort, smoke or shoot it up etc.?

If you were a poor politician, how did you get the money for cocaine?

Did you ever sell cocaine?

[Little Star]

32. Did they write a book on it? But go ahead and ask.

I cannot imagine that any of them did. Nice straw man ya got there.

[blogslut]

34. Not a straw man

As I said, I would bet money that they all did coke. Only Barak Obama was brave enough to tell the truth.

[Little Star]

35. Your on. I bet they didn't do coke!

[blogslut]

38. Cool

Then I assume you would be willing to write a nice letter to your chosen candidate and ask this question. Who is your chosen candidate? I would be more than happy to help proofread your letter.

[Little Star]

40. It was your idea to ask them all , So feel free!

[blogslut]

47. Oh, I see

You're willing to throw out specious accusations but not willing to find out if they are true. Gotcha.

[book_worm]

28. Too bad these questions weren't asked of the chimp.

[Blue-Jay]

29. You smoked pot. Did you ever sell it?

[Bucky]

45. You had sex, were you ever a prostitute?

You drive a car, so why the hell can't we assume you're a gas station attendant, huh? Huh?

[matcom]

30. *I'll* answer your questions!

How often did I use cocaine?
Daily when I could afford it for about 3 years in the 80's

How old was I when I stopped using cocaine?
19 when I enlisted in the Army

How did I use cocaine, snort, smoke or shoot it up etc.?
Snorted it

If I was a poor college student, how did I get the money for cocaine?
I was a high school student who had an after school job. Could get a g for about $80 at the time which was pretty cheap. Peruvian flake usually cost a bit more

Did I ever sell cocaine?
Nope. I was a user, not a seller.

Now, ANY OTHER STUPID FUCKING QUESTIONS YOU WANT TO ASK ME? DID MY ANSWERS SATISFY YOU? I JUST CHOSE TO ANSWER YOUR STUPID FUCKING QUESTIONS! THANK GAWD HE DOESN'T HAVE TO

go do something productive. if you are capable :eyes:

[Little Star]

36. Are you running for president as a Dem? n/t

There in lays the problem. Your not, he is. I want to win the general!!!

[matcom]

39. Little Wing, you are wise beyond your years

The General




















































:rofl:

[Little Star]

43. I'm actually pretty damn old Matchbook!

:headbang:

[Bucky]

44. If all of this also applies to Obama...

... our dear concern trolls can never say he lacks "experience".

If this isn't true about Obama, however, then I'm switching my support to Matcom. I don't want a president who's too much of a pussy to snort some serious blow.

[matcom]

49. D.C. in the 80's was an exceptional year

:rofl:

[ellisonz]

41. Questions about Edwards

Last night I made a post about Edwards's youthful marijuana use. Yes I was flamed, maybe for good reason, I may be a judgemental prude, but there are some things that still concern me about his drug use.

I do not hate Edwards, although I do not support him. I am an Obama supporter because I feel he will be the best candidate to win the general, for many reasons. I have been very critical of Hillary Rodham Clinton as well, her Iran resolution for starters and her triangulation. Dodd would be my second choice.

I want a candidate who can win the general and leave the republicans with the least openings and I do feel Obama is that person. I may be wrong, but that is my heartfelt opinion.

Some of the reasons I am concerned about Edwards marijuana use is because there are many questions that remain unanswered that need to be answered before he gets the democratic nomination.

Some of the questions are:

How often did he use marijuana?

How old was he when he stopped using marijuana?

How did he use marijuana, smoke, bake or make hash out of it etc.?

If he was a poor college student, how did he get the money for marijuana?

Did he ever sell marijuana?

Now I know these questions will get replies stating that I am freeper. But these questions need to be answered before he becomes the nominee.

If we as responsible voters don't get the answers to these questions prior to him getting the nod, rest assured that the republicans will get these answers for us swiftboat style. He has not innoculated himself because he made a small admission. These are fair questions that need to be answered before we vote for someone who may be fatally flawed in the general election. No, I have no evidence, just questions that need to be answered and isn't that what this process is about?

This is my opinion as a dedicated liberal and I just don't want us to leave unanswered questions that may come back to haunt us. This is the fight of a lifetime and we better be more critical of our candidate than the republicans will be.

[matcom]

42. .

:thumbsup:

:rofl:

[ellisonz]

48. *raises hand*

http://www.cafepress.com/obamaquotes/2289723

:smoke:

:popcorn: