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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-19-07 05:56 AM
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Heresy.
Edited on Wed Dec-19-07 06:00 AM by cali
Policy wise, I don't believe that there'd be much difference between Clinton, Edwards or Obama. I don't think that Clinton is the boogeywoman she's largely viewed as here at DU. A Clinton presidency wouldn't be bush lite or continue down the road to fascism. It would be Clinton redux with a more liberal social policy.

I believe the differences would come in what they can get done and on priorities.

But, the thought of 4 to 8 years of the Clintons in the White House is chilling: Non-stop hate fest and battle royale over everything, from the flowers to the Supreme Court. Hate from the right, hate from the left. And scandals, real or manufactured: Lincoln bedroom, andyone? Is Bill cheating? In addition, I think Clinton has more to "prove" than the others, and that concerns me. The repukes would be no less dedicated to taking her down than they were regarding Bill. Furthermore, I'm tired of Clintonian politics and endless triangulating. This isn't the time for it. And it won't work.

I believe Obama is tougher than many give him credit for and that JE's conversion is largely real- though he will work with corporations, and I also believe that the press would give both of them a grace period- particularly Obama.

So, no offense Clinton supporters, but I hope she loses big time in Iowa, NH, SC and NV.
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Perry Logan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-19-07 07:19 AM
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1. Plus the Hillary-haters would be trotting over here every day to repeat the smears.
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Perry Logan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-19-07 07:20 AM
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2. You DO know Bill Clinton was tied with FDR as most popular President of the 20th century?
Edited on Wed Dec-19-07 07:21 AM by Perry Logan
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-19-07 07:57 AM
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4. I do. But I don't see what that has to do with how the
MSM will treat a Clinton presidency, or the hate for her on the right- and to some extent on the left. And she is not her husband.
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TreasonousBastard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-19-07 07:52 AM
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3. I'm of two minds on that. One is...
that she's a known quantity, and probably won't get much more hate than anyone else we get in there. A woman in that office, with her husband an ex-President, is a lot of firsts that might relight the fire under this country.

The other is that I'd really like to wipe the slate clean and just move on to the 21st Century. Let Hillary stay in the Senate and do her job while new blood steers the country's direction. I have my doubts about Obama and Edwards, but I don't doubt either one will do far better than what we have. I don't doubt they will do their best for the nation, and their best is far better than what we've seen for the past 7 years.

My personal favorite, Richardson, is pretty far out of the running, so I have no particular choice now, but simply hope for the best for whoever wins.

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