I can only speak for myself.

[Mythsaje]

No matter WHO wins the Democratic Primary, I will set aside whatever animosity I have to help get that person elected. We've had enough of Republican rule and even the worst of our candidates is a damn sight better than any Repugnik.

Yes, I have my issues with several of the candidates. I don't like Clinton's corporatism. I distrust Obama's Bipartisanship. I am less than thrilled with Biden's "Drug Warrior" history. And, despite the fact that I'm supporting Edwards, there are things about him that I don't like either.

Such is politics.

But no matter what, it's vital that we keep the Republicans out of the White House, and usher as many as possible out of the halls of Congress this time around. I'd prefer honest to goodness progressives, but I'll settle for what I can get.

So beyond all the venom and vitriol, we are united in one thing. Republicans suck.

[thatsrightimirish]

1. agreed

Another Republican would be disastrous.

[blogslut]

2. Yep

I am with you on this.

If you see me sparring with certain people on this board, take note. I am doing it because I feel some folks have gone way past the limits of disagreement and have ventured into baseless, hateful attack territory. I don't like it, no matter what Dem it's directed against. It's one thing to dislike a Democratic candidate's policies. It another to wage petty attacks based on B.S. and bile.

[Mythsaje]

6. I agree...

Which is why I do my best to avoid such.

[blogslut]

8. Sometimes I try

But it's my Libra nature. I can't stand a pile on.

[Saturday]

3. Amen n/t

[in_cog_ni_to]

4. Yes. Republicans, do indeed, SUCK. n/t

[Richardo]

5. Now THIS post I'll recommend

:patriot:

[silverweb]

7. Hear, hear!

We are united in one thing: Republicans suck."

Ain't that the truth!

K&R.

[Stinky The Clown]

9. K&R

[liberalla]

10. Same here!

My least favorite (HRC) is better than any Repug... and that being said, I prefer everyone else over her. I'm not a Democrat, but I'm supporting only Dems in the next several elections (or until we have a viable 3rd choice!).

Another thing I've been feeling lately... We're not going to be able to fix everything, and undo all the damage with one Democratic President. So, even if the Dem nominee isn't your first or second choice, they're the first step toward our future. After that we'll get another one (maybe Gore?) and continue moving forward. It'll be a process, and will take longer than 8 years. However, it is vital we get the WH and get this country back on track in 2008.

[frogmarch]

11. Well put, Mythsaje! K&R

[Kermitt Gribble]

12. Excellent post!!!!

K&R!!!!

[Progressive Radical]

13. Sorry, your whole argument is a fallacy.

I'll vote principle over party each and every time.

Stalin would have hated me and you might, too.

[Mythsaje]

18. Go ahead.

I won't stand down and refuse to vote, nor vote for some spoiler candidate. I'd prefer a real progressive President, but I'll take anyone over a Repug.

[Progressive Radical]

20. You'll take more of the same. n/t

[Mythsaje]

21. Unfortunately all the saints are busy...

We're going to have to go with yet another politician.

[Hoof Hearted]

31. And - - - STALIN - - - STALIN is busy too. Snarf.

:P

[jgraz]

25. Mythsaje, you're such a Stalinist!!!

:P

I agree with you save one candidate (guess which one). All I can promise is that I won't do anything that could possibly contribute to a Rethug victory.

[Mythsaje]

34. Hell, I'll even vote for THAT one...

I'll just close my eyes and think of England.

;)

[Sugar Smack]

58. I'm with ya, jpgray. *GROUPHUG*

;) :bounce: :P

[PVnRT]

55. So, now it's Stalinist to support the Democratic candidate

Whatever, bub. Go back to your magic land where you're better than all of us unthinking morons.

[JohnnyLib2]

14. Yes, yes, yes.

Recommended.

[Progressive Radical]

15. I kinda here what you are saying ...

... but, sometimes things have to get shitty before a revolution.

I don't want a kindler, gentler piece of shit. Give me the whole shabang. Then I will deal accordingly.

[Hoof Hearted]

32. I kinda hear it from here myself. It's the wail of the whale of a lie spoken by the true believer,

lying as he lies beside his flickering monitor in the basement of his mom's house. You see, there's a sea of difference, I dare say more than meets the eye. You could accept their premise except there's always a part too easily taken apart.

WHEE!

[drmeow]

62. There will be no revolution

unless we get rid of the corporate media.

But assuming there is a revolution. How many modern nations have overthrown fascism from within? That's not a rhetorical question - does anyone have any examples and how did it happen? How long did it take? How many modern revolutions ended up with dictators in power? How many modern revolutions did not improve the lot of the common man? How many modern civil wars have been going on for more than a generation? Or went on for more than a generation and still left people oppressed?

If we can't make things better by voting, things are going to get shitty (or shittier) before there is a revolution, anyway. If voting for a kindler, gentler piece of shit buys us some time and gives us even a chance in hell that we can avoid a bloody revolution, I'm going to do it. Doing so won't delay things for long. We may not be able to arrest the slide into fascism but I sure as hell am going to try before I give up and condemn me and mine to bloodshed and violence.

Also, the most deeply oppressed people do not revolt - you have to have hope in order to revolt. A kindler, gentler piece of shit could give people enough hope to fight.

[eroded47095]

16. We Needed Stem Cell Research

[Booster]

17. "sigh" - I agree, although I really would like to vote for just one

candidate that I am totally in favor of before I die. I have voted for a candidate I was totally in favor of before, but they just didn't win. Maybe it's a curse and I should vote for someone I'm not in favor of and then my favorite candidate will win. Nah.

[Little Star]

19. Fer Sure!!

[WillyT]

22. Well Said, And I Agree !!! - K & R !!!

:kick:

[Laurab]

23. You can speak for me, too - but just on that one thing! n/t

[tom_paine]

24. Fucking eh, Bubba!

:thumbsup: :thumbsup: :toast:

It is always important that we remind ourselves of that, especially all throughoutthe coming year of what will likely be bitter infighting here at DU.

[laureloak]

26. I can't make that promise.

My vote will go to the candidate with the best plans to deal with corporate power and illegal immigration, regardless of party affiliation.

[ihaveaquestion]

40. Can you even imagine a republican who fits this description?

I seriously doubt it!

[cooolandrew]

27. Yes, this election is too vital to get hung up on any of our candidates not making it...

... If it is a candidate we favour less we overlook our doubts and get their buttski in the WH then hold them to account once inside the door. I very much hope all candidates running adopt this mentality too and do all they can for the winning candidate, there is way too much at stake for any other option.

[defendandprotect]

28. We have to fight the DLC and DLC candidates --- and we should be doing that before

anyone gets nominated --- we have a year yet !!!

[Kurovski]

29. Well done.

K&R.

[Hoof Hearted]

30. I can get over it & support the nominee, no problem. n/t.

[eridani]

33. My sediments exactly

Even Clinton will get at least a few progressive issues taken care of (ending the war on science, blocking further attacks on reproductive rights, and appointing non-whackjobs in the judicial branch). That would leave us free to fight her on some of the others.

[FlyingSquirrel]

35. Me too.

:thumbsup:

Any one of my choices below will do, plus Gore. In fact, I would vote for a dead person over anything the Repugs have to offer.

[Swamp Rat]

36. AMEN!!

[LuckyTheDog]

37. Bravo

I agree

See my post here: http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=389&topic_id=2571561&mesg_id=2571561

[mdmc]

38. the system sucks

Both parties do the bidding of corporations, and the working people won't get a fair deal any time soon.

HRC will make a much better president then Bush. :patriot:

[ColesCountyDem]

39. Republicans suck.

That pretty well sums it up!

[peace frog]

44. Says it all for me

Republicans suck BIG TIME. Those dumbfucks with "Unity 08" suck as well.

[D23MIURG23]

41. K&R

Its refreshing to see someone pumping unity around here.

[Highway61]

42. Amen...K & R

[Dorian Gray]

43. Exactly

The fervor surrounding candidate favorites is fascinating to watch for me, especially since I don't live in a state that determines jack squat about the candidate. I'm actually quite pleased to watch the battle play out, and embrace any of the candidates. I like the top three, and I'll be happy to vote for any of them once the time comes.

[truckin]

45. That's exactly how I fell also.

[unpossibles]

46. I agree 100%

Honestly, there are somethings I like about all of them, and some things I dislike about all of them, including Kucinich. But none are as bad as even the "best" Republican candidates. I'm not certain we can survive as a nation with another Republican President and that is not hyperbole. From the dilution of the importance of science and education that is seemingly inherent in the Republicans to the nominations of the SCOTUS on down throughout the judicial branch, the idea of another Republican, especially in light of the current field of candidates, scares the hell out of me.

[WillTheGoober]

47. Very Good!

Great post.
I think you're right there.

This isn't about all-or-nothing.
This is about winning.

We need a Democratic president.
And I, like you, will support any Democrat who wins the Primary.

Thanks - Recommended.

W.

[Irishonly]

48. K&R

My ideal candidate would have a little bit from each of our candidates but that's my rose colored glasses talking. I wanted Gore to run but understand why he isn't. The world is his stage now. I hope our nominee takes advantage of advise from some of wise sages.

I don't like all of the back biting. It's not in my nature and I always want to know why the support instead of all of the boil on the buttocks of the world we are seeing and hearing now. I like Edwards, Dodd and some of the time Biden. I match Kuchinich is philosophy most of the time. At this point in my life, I think I would vote for Bozo as long as he/she was a good democrat.

Republican suck should be a banner.

[TexasLawyer]

49. Amen brother!

[La Lioness Priyanka]

50. Me too.

[Marrah_G]

51. Thank you- I feel the same way

[abq e streeter]

52. And you spoke for me , too

including being an Edwards supporter despite not thinking he's perfect either. Keeping a republiklan out of the White House is imperative. It'll disgust me to have to vote for HRC, and it'll worry me to have to vote for Obama, but I'll do it. Our worst is still a lot less dangerous than any repub.

[corkhead]

53. Maybe... I will not allow my vote to be taken for granted.

Taking progressives for granted is why the so-called "center" has shifted so far right over the last 30 years and I am sick of it.

[Sparkly]

54. Agreed!!

I was concerned about my least favorite candidate, but after seeing the first Republican debate some months ago, I realized he looks fantastic next to any of them! That removed any shred of doubt or hesitation for me about actively supporting our nominee.

I know what you mean about imperfections, too. I was wildly enthusiastic in 2004 (for Clark), and don't have that excitement for any of the candidates this time. They're politicians; I can accept that.

I'm with you -- I'll absolutely be supporting our nominee!!

[helderheid]

56. You speak for me.

[ananda]

57. same page

I like Edwards best right now,
but I will definitely vote for
whoever runs against a Reep.

[eagleswing963]

59. Regardless I am voting Democrat

1) I admit I do not like Hillary, and although I liked Bill when he was in office, Hillary is not Bill Clinton!

2) I admit to ignorance in Obama's case so I can give no opinion one way or another about him, other then the fact Oprah wants him to win ( I am not a racist, but Oprah is just as bad as Howard Stern! If she did not have a book club I would bet Ms. Winfrey would be off the air!)

3) Edwards I like so I hope and pray he wins, warts and all.

4) If Ron Paul was the GOP candidate I would vote Republican, but he stands no chance sadly!

Those 4 points being said I will vote Democrat no matter which one wins. Romney scares me, Rudy (Mr. 9/11) scares me more, and I am not sorry, but a Southern Baptist preacher as President?

PLEASE!!!!!

I will bet anyone that if Huckabee wins, all history and science textbooks will be burned, and replaced with "creation friendly" books that teach Adam and Eve and the Earth is 6000 years old.

Anyone care to bet?

Oh just for the record, in October 2000 when I was a choir member at a church in my hometown I told another choir member I would not vote for Bush cause I knew if he won, we would be at war with Iraq before his first term was up!

[RoccoR5955]

60. Depending on where you stand...

Republicans either suck or they blow.
Either way, I don't want any of them in the White House come '09.
Once again, I will do my duty, and if I have to hold my nose to vote for some Democratic candidate that I do not like, I will do the thing FOR MY COUNTRY, and NOT vote for a Republican. Not for the presidency, not for Congress or for Senate, or for ANY office, because of what their party stands for.
For WE THE PEOPLE, we must do whatever we can to get the current Republican party out of our country. We can work on the Democratic party later. They are bad, but not as bad as the Republican party.

[drmeow]

61. Based on positions on the issues

I recently tracked down and "took" a bunch of quizzes to match a person with their preferred candidate:

http://www.speakout.com/VoteMatch/senate2006.asp?quiz=2008
http://www.selectsmart.com/president/2008.html
http://glassbooth.org/
http://www.vajoe.com/candidate_calculator.html
http://www.usatoday.com/news/politics/election2008/candidate-match-game.htm

Some were better than others. My top candidate based on my ideology was consistently the same person (Kucinich). Of the other Democratic candidates, almost every one appeared in the top 3 or 4 at least once. No Democrat matched at less than 65%. Not a single Republican candidate matched at more than 35%.

Regardless of who gets the Democratic nomination (no matter how much I like or don't like him/her), the up to 35% of the issues that candidate and I do NOT agree on is still preferable to me than seeing someone I disagree with on least 65% and up to 90% of the issues get elected President.

I don't care if it is settling. I ALWAYS have to settle (even Kucinich doesn't match at 100% and in today's climate, someone who matches me at 100% couldn't get elected).

[Mythsaje]

63. Kucinich came closest for me in every quiz I've taken.

And while I like Kucinich enough, I don't think he has what it takes to win. So I'm going with Edwards.