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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-14-08 05:36 AM
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Good piece on Romney, a day ahead of Michigan.
http://www.slate.com/id/2181847/

Premonitions of undoing for the former governor of Massachusetts and once-local son of his popular dad.
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-14-08 05:46 AM
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1. I have to say this about Mitt
in all my years as a political junkie Mr. Mitt takes the cake for sheer phoniness - I think he is so damn phony even repukes see it
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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-14-08 05:49 AM
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2. Hi, Skittles. Yes. It's almost astonishing how plastic he seems. I think
the "creep quotient" runs so high in him because he just doesn't come off as authentic in any way.

And it sure is on the line for his candidacy on Tuesday.
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-14-08 05:57 AM
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3. it is eerie
he comes off as a complete phony not just as a politician but as a human being :o
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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-14-08 08:46 AM
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9. Agree. And who did they find to write his speeches? They're almost
completely forgettable.

A strange creature, he is.
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jackson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-14-08 06:09 AM
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5. Which is why he is hopefully the rethug nominee. He is a total sham
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-14-08 06:12 AM
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6. careful about that
Reagan was a sham too
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bunkerbuster1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-14-08 08:51 AM
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11. We always have to be careful what we wish for, true, but...
I do think that Romney, who has the highest "will not vote for under any circumstances" of any guy running today, would be the most beatable. That's not just a gut-feeling, but based on matchups in Pollingreport.com and elsewhere.


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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-14-08 08:55 AM
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14. He reminds me of an Evil Ted Danson.
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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-14-08 10:27 AM
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15. LOL! That's perfect! Danson's untalented. Romney's inhuman.
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liberal N proud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-14-08 06:04 AM
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4. It;s like a Ken doll running for President
Every time I see him all I can think it how fake he looks
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-14-08 06:13 AM
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7. VERY good
:thumbsup:
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chelsea0011 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-14-08 07:21 AM
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8. Huckabee touched on an issue that Romney ran into when he ran
against Kennedy for the Senate. The company he ran was responsible for take overs where people lost their jobs after reorganization. When Romney talks jobs I keep wondering why this hasn't become yet another issue with this guy.
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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-14-08 08:47 AM
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10. If he wins in Michigan, the reason may be a lazy media. After a win in
Michigan -- if he can somehow pull it off -- I bet his opponents will begin to whittle away at his business past.
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bunkerbuster1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-14-08 08:52 AM
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12. Which is why I'm pulling for Romney to win in MI.
The more these guys have to attack one another, and bring up issues they'd rather not talk about (anyone think that Rethugs want to talk about corporate takeovers and massive layoffs? anyone?), the better for us.
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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-14-08 10:29 AM
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16. Yep. Politically, we grow stronger if the period of the Pukes tearing each other to
bits is sustained. McCain did ok in New Hampshire but maybe Romney can knock him off in Michigan. That will muddy the waters considerably.

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KharmaTrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-14-08 08:54 AM
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13. It's Also A Hit For The "Image Makers"
I find it very interesting that the big money GOOP operatives are having their asses handed to them. They divided among the candidates...mostly Rudy, Mittens and Thompson...going for the money and now we're seeing the individual cogs of the GOOP machine that won elections for nearly 30 years falling apart.

Mittens was the "establishment" candidate...the moldable lump, like boooshie and Raygun...the empty suit that could be manipulated to hire cronies, dole out billions in government contracts and pay lip service to the "social conservatives" with his game-show host looks. Substance meant nothing and his Olympic calibre flip-flops were overlooked as he was now a "true believer" a codeword that was supposed to pacify all. The arrogance of his handlers and long with Mitt's ego have made him the Steve Forbes of this campaign...vacuous at best and a totally souless person...the ideal Repugnican.

The thought of the scarmble by the village Repugnicans if a Huckster or McCain wins will be a delight to watch. Where will the Comstocks and Hugh Hewitts and Rushbos go? Will they "join ranks" or be a turd in the punchbowl. If there's any schadenfraude out of the disintegration of the Repugnican party, it's the dismantling of the machine that gave us this regime and two decades of grief and suffering.
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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-14-08 10:32 AM
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17. Kharma Train, I absolutely love your line:
"The arrogance of his handlers and long with Mitt's ego have made him the Steve Forbes of this campaign...vacuous at best and a totally souless person...the ideal Repugnican."

Zowie. Forbes' campaign seems like another lifetime. Certainly it was on another planet.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-15-08 01:02 AM
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18. I've been trying to figure this out. Mitt is the establishment guy,
Huckabee is the fundie candidate, McCain was Junior's guy. What about Rudy? I know he got funding from BFEE oil guys. Did the BFEE have McCain and a back up, Rudy?
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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-15-08 07:56 AM
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19. Good question. The heavy-weights backing this and that candidate must
be at each other's throats. Or at least at cross purposes. The fundie voter fears McCain and likely flocks to Huckabee. Romney either wins today or he's likely dead meat. Well, he's not organic enough to be dead meat. "Dissembled automaton" I guess would be more accurate.

Giuliani evidently is dumping cash into Florida, thinking he can win there and then buoy the campaign. If he doesn't win there, he and his third wife will have to retire and spend their sunset years torturing animals and foreign nationals, their hallmarks.

And despite a late ad buy in South Carolina, I'm still not seeing the critical mass that's going to sweep Fred Thompson into the White House.

Ol' Newt must be kicking himself for not entering the race.
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KharmaTrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-15-08 08:57 AM
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20. He's Got The NeoCons
Rudy got Podhoretz and all the AIPAC and NeoCon money. Actually, I'd say Mittens was more the boooshie guy as Jebbie and many of his fundraisers worked on his campaign...rally around the empty suit. Other, like Mary Matalin took her broom and headed off to the Thompson disaster (those who weren't bought up before he got in the race).

McCain and Hucklebee are the wild cards. We all know about the Hucksters, the fundies and especially James Dobson...but McCain didn't really have much support (except for Gomer Graham from SC), but now that he appears to be the "great white hope", he's getting the silent wink and nod. He's the lesser of evils...but definitely not controllable.

:hi:
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-15-08 11:57 AM
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21. He put in so much time as Junior's Fig Leaf, it's hard to believe
he won't be The One. But, I did see that BushCo oil types hosted Rudy on a Middle East tour and give him some change.

This morning I read that every Republic that has taken South Carolina has gone on to be the party's nominee -- since 1960. Although, the way they vote in SC, that wouldn't be too hard to arrange!

:)
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KharmaTrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-15-08 12:15 PM
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22. South Carolina Is The Fun Primary
Kinda reminds me of the old council war fights here in Chicago. Down and dirty...power politics gut side up. This is how the elections used to be fought. I'll bet the rumors of Andrew Jackson's illegitimate marriage came out of some party psy-op. LOL.

Rudy's been a BFEE hanger-oner. He made big money off the Middle East contacts and I wouldn't be suprised that money was a hedge more than any real endorsement. Remember, for most the past year he's been the front-runner...the checks just show up when that happens. :grin:

Just look at what that SC Primary has brought us...it usually endorses the "establishment" candidate as its usually the campaign is short and rife for dirty tricks. I wouldn't be surprised if the Obama/Hillary feud is getting tons of local astroturf down there...lots of restless repugnican dirty tricksters with no horse to ride on right now.

Cheers...

:hi:
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