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flashl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-17-08 05:39 PM
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D.C. Appeals court rules Gitmo detainees 'are not persons'

Appeals Court Rules Against Ex - Detainees



Published: January 11, 2008

WASHINGTON (AP) -- A federal appeals court ruled Friday against four British men who contend they were systematically tortured and their religious rights abused throughout their two-year detention at Guantanamo Bay.

In a suit against ex-Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld and individual U.S. military officials, the four men argued that the defendants had engaged in criminal conduct.

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''Criminal conduct is not per se outside the scope of employment,'' a requirement for bringing a claim under the Alien Tort Statute, said the decision by appeals judge Karen LeCraft Henderson, an appointee of President Bush's father.

The four men challenge the methods Rumsfeld and the military officers used, but the former detainees don't allege that the defendants "'acted as rogue officials or employees who implemented a policy of torture for reasons unrelated to the gathering of intelligence,'' the court said.

''Therefore, the alleged tortious conduct was incidental to the defendants' legitimate employment duties,'' the ruling added.

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Rejecting all of the men's allegations, the appeals court overturned the only part of a lower court decision that hadn't already been dismissed. That was the alleged violation of the Religious Freedom Restoration Act.

''Because the plaintiffs are aliens and were located outside sovereign United States territory at the time their alleged RFRA claim arose, they do not fall with the definition of 'person,''' the court ruled. The law provides that the ''government shall not substantially burden a person's exercise of religion.''

NY Times
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shain from kane Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-17-08 05:41 PM
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1. Not persons? Then animals? OK to torture animals, ask Huckabee's son.n/t
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flashl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-17-08 05:45 PM
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2. And, you can't commit criminal acts if it part of your duties. n/t
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GodlessBiker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-17-08 05:53 PM
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3. Wait till the pro-life people get a load of this.
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hootinholler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-17-08 06:14 PM
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4. Not sure what to make of this ruling.
G'tmo is as sovereign territory as any of our embassies.

-Hoot
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NC_Nurse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-17-08 06:16 PM
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5. So they're Cylons!
I should've known...;-)
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