Computer Hackers Allege That Notorious Neo-Nazi Radio Host Is On FBI Payroll

[Hissyspit]

http://www.alternet.org/rights/74255

Computer Hackers Allege That Notorious Neo-Nazi Radio Host Is on FBI Payroll

By Mark Potok, Hate Watch. Posted January 19, 2008.

After allegations emerge that key white supremacist figure Hal Turner may be a government informant, experts warn FBI crossed the line.

New Jersey radio host Hal Turner is well known as one of the most vicious neo-Nazis in America, a man who routinely suggests killing his enemies.

Railing against President Bush, he told his audience last June that "a well-placed bullet can solve a lot of problems." He has written that "we need to start SHOOTING AND KILLING Mexicans as they cross the border" and argued that killing certain federal judges "may be illegal, but it wouldn't be wrong." In 2006, after he published an attack on New Jersey Supreme Court justices that also included several of their home addresses, state police massively beefed up security for the members of the court, checking on one justice's house more than 200 times.

Hal Turner is one serious extremist. He may also be on the FBI payroll.

On Jan. 1, unidentified hackers electronically confronted Turner in the forum of his website for "The Hal Turner Show." After a heated exchange, they told Turner that they had successfully hacked into his server and found correspondence with an FBI agent who is apparently Turner's handler. Then they posted an alleged July 7 E-mail to the agent in which Turner hands over a message from someone who sent in a death threat against Sen. Russ Feingold (D-Wisc.). "Once again," Turner writes to his handler, "my fierce rhetoric has served to flush out a possible crazy." In what is allegedly a portion of another E-mail, Turner discusses the money he is paid.

On Thursday, as the E-mail exchange was heatedly discussed on a major neo-Nazi website, Turner suddenly announced he was quitting political work. "I hereby separate from the 'pro-White' movement," he said, adding that he was ending his radio show immediately. "I will no longer involve myself in any aspect of it."

The FBI declined comment. "Longstanding FBI policy prohibits disclosing who may or may not provide information," Agent Richard Kolko of the agency's press unit said. Reached in New Jersey, Turner also declined all comment.

The apparent revelation set off a torrent of criticism from experts in criminology and the use of informants. "This is clearly over the line," said James Nolan, an associate sociology professor at West Virginia University who is an expert in police procedure and a former unit chief in the FBI's Crime Analysis, Research and Development Unit. "Informants may be involved in drugs, and you overlook that because of the greater good. However, these are viable threats -- they could be carried out -- that the FBI clearly knows about. I want to see the FBI stop it."

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[Selatius]

1. I can see an authoritarian using somebody like Hal Turner to order a hit on a dissident.

In effect, someone like Hal Turner would be the finger man. He would point to the target, and somebody in the population with similar sympathies would act on their own initiative and get rid of the target. The master who handles Hal Turner would be hidden away from scrutiny, yet he would directly benefit from the removal of dissidents in terms of consolidating power.

[formercia]

2. Read 'Agents of Repression'

The Feds have been doing this for generations. They start radical groups to identify and neutralize potential perpetrators.

[RUMMYisFROSTED]

7. Say it ain't so, Skinner!

:scared:

[formercia]

11. I wouldn't worry about it.

I don't. There are plenty of spies, informants and agent-provocateurs on every public forum.

[SpiralHawk]

3. republicon Black Ops - fits their "family values" profiles

if you take a republicon homelander's Wide Stance on matters of truth, honest, and morality.

[formercia]

6. Strategic Tension

This was all thought up by the same people that came up with operation GLADIO in Europe.

Justify your power by creating enemies where there are none.

Create radical agents of violence that can be used to stifle legitimate dissent.

Polarize society by pitting 'US' against 'THEM.'


Elohim City was not put out of business because it serves their purpose just like Turner did.

[SpiralHawk]

4. Typical republicon Black Ops, Mind Fuck, Family Values

if you take a republicon homelander's Wide Stance on matters of truth, honest, and morality.

[Ian David]

5. I wonder who some of his listeners were...

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[formercia]

8. He better find a very deep hole

in another solar system to hide in.

Those White Supremacists are a rough bunch to rat on.

[Judi Lynn]

9. He's flatly dishonest to his audience, according to an article I found.

Posted: Wed Dec 27, 2006 10:19 am Post subject: Internet War waged against Hal Turner, Hudson County hate mo

Internet War waged against Hal Turner, Hudson County hate monger

By Anthony Olszewski
[e-mail]

~snip~
The Battle of the Bandwidth
Hal Turner's Web Site became the target of a Denial of Service attack. A Denial of Service attack is an automated process that sends a tsunami of 'net traffic to a domain. This can cause the hosting server to grind to a halt, making a Web Site unavailable to visitors. According to Turner, the Denial of Service attack has cost him thousands of dollars in bandwidth charges. The attackers (possibly identified or associated with /b/tards and/or Anonymous) are quite proud of this and have openly gloated about it in message boards.

Hal Turner has stated that criminal charges were filed against John Does. He also posted that Skinheads in either Australia or New Zealand (Mr. Turner was not sure of a location more precise than "down under.") located and beat one of the hackers. As proof, Hal Turner displayed on his Web Site a picture of a young man with a bloody face. Someone did a google image search using "bloody face" as the term. In this way, the identical photo was located immediately elsewhere on the Web in an unrelated context. Subsequently, the picture and the boast of assault disappeared from Hal Turner's Web Page.

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Last summer, Hal Turner was quoted as advocating the killing of undocumented aliens. He also was involved in an assault case against Jaime Vazquez, recipient of the Purple Heart, Frmr. Jersey City Councilman, and Frmr. Jersey City Deputy Mayor:
http://www.getnj.com/onlygameintown/turnervazquez.shtml

More:
http://www.ontheerie.com/upper/viewtopic.php?t=437



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Racist Organizer's Radio Show Attacks People of Color, Calls for Mass Killing of Jewish People
July 17 2007



Having looked at Hal Turner's history of racist statements last week, Media Mouse today turns its attention to the Hal Turner's racist radio show, reviewing the July 11 edition of the show. While the police in Kalamazoo have urged people to "ignore" the white supremacist event being organized by Hal Turner in Kalamazoo on August 4, it is important to explore the histories of the people organizing the rally and to directly confront their racism.

Hal Turner's radio show, broadcast every Wednesday, features a steady two hours of racist talk radio. Much of the show consists of Turner's rants and incitements to violence, broken up by a variety of commercials and music, both of which are racist. While Turner's advocacy of "white nationalism" occasionally attempts to seize on popular discontent, fear, and uneasiness about cultural and economic changes in the United States, the majority of his appeals are overtly racist and clearly associated with the white supremacist movement. Unlike organizations such as the Council of Conservative Citizens that attempt to disguise their racism, Turner's overt and violent racism is more in line with that of the Ku Klux Klan.

Not surprisingly, a major topic of discussion was Turner's upcoming rally in Kalamazoo, Michigan. Turner announced the location for the rally and thanked the city government for their role in accommodating him. Turner expressed his alleged desire to "make it a legal, safe, happy event," despite the fact that a rally featuring prominent racists--especially ones associated with the more violent portions of the racist movement--will never be a "safe" or "happy" event for large segments of the population.

Turner took issue with an article in the Kalamazoo Gazette in which the police urged people to ignore the rally. Turner asserted that he has never heard of a governmental entity telling people to ignore an event in their town and painted himself as a victim. He asserted that he has "never heard of govt. telling people to ignore Jesse Jackson or Al Sharpton when they come to their town" and that it is a deliberate effort by the city of Kalamazoo to discourage "white people" from "organizing against black gang crime." Turner then claimed that the city was hoping that people would ignore the rally because his rally was exposing the "truth" that Kalamazoo has "a racial problem with blank gangs." He further painted whites as victims, asserting that "violent criminal gangs, roving the streets of a city, attacking, robbing, beating, and now killing innocent people based on the color of their skin." As a counter to this, Turner attempted to speak for the people of Kalamazoo and called on the people to "stand united with one voice" and to "stand up to the hoodlums."

More:
http://www.mediamouse.org/features/071707racis.php

[formercia]

10. Government sponsored agent-provocateur

standard fare from the reich-wing reactionaries trying to take total control of the US.

[formercia]

12. More interesting information on Hal Turner:

http://www.geocities.com/theturnerdiaries/why.html

[formercia]

13. Elohim City

The Oklahoma City bombing probably would not have occured if the boys didn't go around acting as agent provocateurs. They provoke crazies to violence, even to giving them access to the materials and weapons to do the job, and when it goes sideways, they cover it up to prevent the truth emerging of their role.

[L. Coyote]

14. What about Rush? and all the other FBI Radio nuts?

Can we quit sending them paychecks too?