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DeepModem Mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 12:12 PM
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Frantic search to give folks a few dollars to stimulate economy? How about good jobs, good wages?
NYT: Good Jobs Are Where the Money Is
By BOB HERBERT
Published: January 19, 2008

....Now, like children who have eaten too much sugar, they are frantically trying to figure out how to put a few dollars into the hands of working people to stimulate an enfeebled economy. They should stop, take a deep breath and acknowledge the obvious: the way to put money into the hands of working people is to make sure they have access to good jobs at good wages. That has long been known, but it hasn’t been the policy in this country for many years. Big business and the federal government have worked hand in hand to squeeze the daylights out of working people, stripping them (in an era of downsizing and globalization) of much of their bargaining power while ferociously pursuing fiscal policies that radically favored the privileged few.

My colleague at The Times, David Cay Johnston, took a look at income patterns in the U.S. over the past few decades in his new book, “Free Lunch: How the Wealthiest Americans Enrich Themselves at Government Expense (and Stick You With the Bill).” From 1980 to 2005 the national economy, adjusted for inflation, more than doubled. (Because of population growth, the actual increase per capita was about 66 percent.) But the average income for the vast majority of Americans actually declined during that period. The standard of living for the average family has improved not because incomes have grown, but because women have gone into the workplace in droves.

The peak income year for the bottom 90 percent of Americans was way back in 1973 — when the average income per taxpayer (adjusted for inflation) was $33,001. That is nearly $4,000 higher than the average in 2005. It’s incredible but true: 90 percent of the population missed out on the income gains during that long period. Mr. Johnston does not mince words: “The pattern here is clear. The rich are getting fabulously richer, the vast majority are somewhat worse off, and the bottom half — for all practical purposes, the poor — are being savaged by our current economic policies.”...

Economic alarm bells have been ringing in the U.S. for some time. There was no sense of urgency as long as those in the lower ranks were sinking in the mortgage muck and the middle class was raiding the piggy bank otherwise known as home equity. But now that the privileged few are threatened (Merrill Lynch took a $9.8 billion fourth-quarter hit, and the stock market has spent the first part of the year behaving like an Olympic diving champion), it’s suddenly time to take action.

There is no question that some kind of stimulus package geared to the needs of ordinary Americans is in order. But that won’t begin to solve the fundamental problem. Good jobs at good wages — lots of them, growing like spring flowers in an endlessly fertile field — is the absolutely essential basis for a thriving American economy and a broad-based rise in standards of living....

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/01/19/opinion/19herbert.html?em&ex=1200891600&en=e84c9fb476b7ff29&ei=5087%0A
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grasswire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 12:15 PM
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1. we're borrowing this from the Chinese, are we?
Is that where this money is coming from? That's what fries me.
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ihavenobias Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 12:21 PM
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3. My first rant was about potential tax cuts and the debt
http://journals.democraticunderground.com/ihavenobias/2

This was within the last couple of weeks or so when I read that Bush might be considering MORE tax cuts to "stimulate the economy".

And yes, much of the debt is owed to communist China and various other countries, and 70% of the national debt was created by 3 Republican presidents (and that percentage continues to grow higher thanks to Bush).
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kurth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 12:23 PM
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5. A big chunk of that money will be sent right back to China
everytime anybody buys anything made in China.
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Tandalayo_Scheisskopf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 12:16 PM
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2. Any job-creation act passed by Congress...
Edited on Sat Jan-19-08 12:17 PM by Tandalayo_Scheisskop
That includes the dispensing of Treasury funds to corporations, would only succeed in creating new executive bonuses and short-term jobs that would last only as long as they have to, before they announce new layoffs and outsource them overseas.

For such a thing to work, it would have to be accompanied by a huge overhaul of labor laws and treaties.

Oh, and it's time to rework welfare laws to reflect these new economic realities.
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jwirr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 12:42 PM
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7. And more than likely any "jobs" created would be short term. nt
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demnan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 12:23 PM
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4. The elephant in the room is the two disastrous wars
that have gone on too long and accomplished nothing to make us safer.

Our problems stem from that and the fact that corporations and wealthy people do not pay taxes.
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NNN0LHI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 12:38 PM
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6. Or how about giving us some REAL money? Why this chump change stuff?
Edited on Sat Jan-19-08 12:39 PM by NNN0LHI
No one asks that. Why is that? Someone here suggested 20 grand per family tax free. I bet that would make a difference.

Don
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HughBeaumont Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 12:44 PM
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8. Hee hee . . . Silly Bob.
That would require corporations to be benevolent to someone other than the wealthy that run them. And we all know that's not-a gonna happen in a billion years.
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sam sarrha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 12:49 PM
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9. how about job training for the disenfranchised and the disabled..?
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PsN2Wind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 01:01 PM
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10. Because most of those "Good jobs" at "good wages"
were exported along with the factories that provided them to overseas, low wage locations. Of course many of those not directly affected felt it was worth the "temporary dislocations" so America could buy cheap shoes and toys.
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peace13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 01:04 PM
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11. If we simply implemented health care for all ,
jobs would be created. Doctors, pharmacies, hospitals and rehab would be busy as *ell. Peace, Kim
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Yael Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 01:08 PM
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12. Make no mistake -- this is all carefully setting up what they have wanted all along
to dump the Social Security escrows into the open market to plump up the banks that are going under while their ex-CEOs are off to purchase their private islands in the Caribbean.
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