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kpete Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-25-07 08:00 PM
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CONDI-Thoses Of Us Who Don't Support WAR Are Appeasing Terrorists & Would Have Appeased Hitler Too
Edited on Sun Feb-25-07 08:04 PM by kpete
Condi says what Cheney has been saying for awhile now. Any Americans who do not support Chimpy and his surge are appeasing the terrorists, and would have appeased Hitler.


WALLACE: Let's turn to Iraq talking now about rewriting the 2002 congressional authorization for the use of force in Iraq.

Given that our mission there has changed so dramatically over the last four years, don't they have a point?

RICE: We don't need to do anything but to allow the commanders on the ground — General Petraeus, who's gone out there as the new commander — to pursue the course that he and other commanders have put together and have recommended to the president. That's what we need to concentrate on as a country.

I know it's extremely difficult. And yes, as the president has said, we've now overthrown Saddam Hussein. We are in a different situation, even, some would say, a different war. But the consolidation of a stable and democratic Iraq after the overthrow of Saddam Hussein is a part of what America owes to the Iraqi people, owes to the region and owes to ourselves so that our own security is there.

Chris, it would be like saying that after Adolf Hitler was overthrown, we needed to change, then, the resolution that allowed the United States to do that so that we could deal with creating a stable environment in Europe after he was overthrown. It's a part of a continuum of what we're trying to do in Iraq.

more at:
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,254502,00.html
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Aviation Pro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-25-07 08:08 PM
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1. Words fail me....
...because I made a promise to raise the discourse at least from me.

Words fail me.
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MikeNearMcChord Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-25-07 08:08 PM
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2. How many times have they trotted out that dead dog that don't hunt?
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niceypoo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-25-07 08:09 PM
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3. How many generals have been fired for disagreeing with Rummy/Cheney?
And if I recall right, Hitler invaded countries based on flimsy, faked intelligence...sound familiar? She is sorta right, except that the US is playing the role of Nazi Germany. She acts as if the fighting raged on in Germany after Hitler was gone, not. We were welcome in Germany...we are hated in Iraq. Gawd she is a frigging clueless moron.
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indepat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-25-07 08:09 PM
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4. Those whose policies and agenda seem fascist-like might take care in playing the Hitler card
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Cabcere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-25-07 08:10 PM
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5. What is it with this administration
and comparing any war critics to Nazis/appeasers/supporters? :grr: I'm thinking this is definitely Special Comment material...but then again, he's kind of already addressed this issue with Rumsfeld. :shrug: Well, regardless of whether Dr. Rice gets KO'd for this, I think it's disgusting. :mad:
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Blackhatjack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-25-07 08:17 PM
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6. Condi Conclusion #2 --Those who do not buy $200 shoes, want to hurt our economy...
The shoeshopper strikes again!

Whenever the stress gets too much, do like Condi --go shoe shopping!
It is your patriotic duty, it helps us win the war by keeping the economy strong, and if you don't buy the expensive ones we will never beat Hitler! er, I mean Osama!
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0rganism Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-25-07 08:22 PM
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7. I think she's trying to compare occupying Iraq with the post-Hitler detente vs. USSR
After all, cold-war politics were her area of expertise. I'd expect her to apply that outlook generally, since her mind has apparently ossified beyond the potential for creative and original situational analysis. For her to understand why occupying Iraq is NOT like occupying West Germany would require a huge paradigm shift which she is unable or unwilling to make.

When all you have is a hammer, everything starts to look like a nail. :shrug:
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WinkyDink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-25-07 09:10 PM
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12. What does "post-Hitler detente" mean? Detente wasn't until Nixon, 1971..
Edited on Sun Feb-25-07 09:32 PM by WinkyDink
Détente 1971-79
Motives for Détente USSR/USA
Motives for Détente USA/ China
SALT Talks 1972
Failure of Détente
http://www.hoddereducation.co.uk/Title/9780340884942/Teach_Yourself_The_Cold_War.htm
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0rganism Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-25-07 10:20 PM
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15. exactly
Edited on Sun Feb-25-07 10:21 PM by 0rganism
detente: lit. easing of tensions

Rice thinks it'll be the same in Iraq as it was in Germany, except this time with the Islamic extremists instead of the communists.

She's deluded if she thinks we'll tolerate this level of occupational violence for 30 years, tho.

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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-25-07 08:34 PM
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8. Excuse me but her words are closer to Hitler's camp than
those of us who criticize the Bushler. Remember Goering's little spiel about getting the Germans to go along with the invasion of Poland and everyone else after. They called them unpatriotic if they disagreed. So Condi is calling Americans Nazis if they disagree. Different words, but same intent. Just how deep are these criminals into the methods of the Third Reich? They seem to be doing everything the Nazis did. It just keeps getting more and more incremental and creepy how similar it is.
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PerfectSage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-25-07 08:46 PM
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9. The difference between Germany and Iraq is that...
...Iraq has turned into guerilla warfare. George Bush doesn't know how to win and it's blatantly obvious to me that the US Army is so unadaptable it didn't learn anything from Viet Nam about how conventional forces could win against guerilla tactics.
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Tierra_y_Libertad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-25-07 08:49 PM
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10. Translation: "All we need to do is follow the orders of the beloved Fuhrer."
Like good Germans..er, "Patriotic Americans".
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WinkyDink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-25-07 09:09 PM
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11. Hitler wasn't "overthrown"; his entire country (and -ism) was defeated in war.
Edited on Sun Feb-25-07 09:22 PM by WinkyDink
We weren't "liberating" the Germans from his rule. And the Soviets had A LITTLE SOMETHING TO DO WITH IT. AND with the subsequent Communist take-over of Poland, Hungary, the Baltic states, East Germany, etc. Is THAT what Rice is now calling "creating a stable environment in Europe"?? THE COLD WAR??!!

What, exactly, did the U.S. "create" in post-WWII Europe, anyway? What could she POSSIBLY be thinking of? The British monarchy? Oh, maybe WE created that. How about France's Parliament? Maybe Scandinavia's Socialist monarchies?

Rice is completely, utterly, irredeemably foolish, ignorant, and clownish.
Not to mention besotted with a psychopath.
OMG, the hard slaps I could administer to her smug mug....Don't get me started.
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Jacobin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-25-07 09:11 PM
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13. This administration is filled with the most incompetent
delusional freaks of all time
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Ghost in the Machine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-25-07 09:32 PM
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14. Ummm, Condi? There's something you should know. See below...
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sweetheart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-25-07 10:24 PM
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16. Fuck that vich
I hope she hangs like saddam after her war crimes trial.
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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-25-07 10:29 PM
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17. pffft! ... To the Hague, Condi!
:eyes:



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Forkboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-25-07 10:42 PM
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18. "With us or against us"
It's gotta be Rice or the Team Clinton.
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