AL GORE: "I can't imagine in any circumstance to run for office again,"

[Harper_is_Bush]

Some posters tonight need to be reminded of the mans recent words.

Congratulate him for his winning night, and pledge to do everything you can to answer his call to arms to face our climate crisis. That's all he wants.

[Ninja Jordan]

1. Be prepared to get blasted.

[nebenaube]

2. oh man... wanna play poker? n/t

[JackRiddler]

23. Just what I was thinking. Someone here is playing a brilliant hand...

And my admiring it is supposed to be an insult?

[cgrindley]

61. Sometimes

when you say "fold", put the cards down, gather your remaining chips into your pocket, get up from the table, put on your coat, walk out to the car and drive home....


YOU REALLY HAVE QUIT THE GAME.

[JackRiddler]

62. Sometimes everyone stops you at the door and pulls you back into the party...

And if that corresponds to your best case scenario (i.e., would give Gore a big campaign advantage over the others), it would look just like folding.

Anyway, the history of such pronouncements speaks for itself.

[melody]

3. And some people need to realize that plenty of present candidates said similar things

He has lots of time to enter the race. And frankly, with all the talk, I'd be deeply surprised if he doesn't -- probably at the last possible moment.

[Horse with no Name]

69. Absolutely correct.

>>>>snip

Certainly, the recent buzz about a possible Gore campaign in 2008 doesn’t seem to be spontaneously generated. According to one influential Democratic insider, close associates of the former Vice President have communicated to him and other prominent fund-raisers who are uncommitted to the other ’08 candidates that Mr. Gore will consider entering the race—if an opening presents itself—in September.

http://www.observer.com/20070219/20070219_Steve_Kornacki_opinions_wiseguys.asp

[flyarm]

4. pffffffft!!

I COULDN'T RESIST

[Straight Shooter]

5. bush couldn't imagine the levees would break, and look what happened.

Any more pins for the Gore balloons?

[OrangeCountyDemocrat]

6. That Wasn't Even His Quote.

If you intend to throw water on whether or not he'll run, and start an argument for no reason, at least get the quote right.

I believe he said..."I can't imagine a circumstance in which I'd run for office again."

[Harper_is_Bush]

16. Yes, it was.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2007/02/17/gore-rules-out-08-says-_n_41496.html
"I can't imagine in any circumstance to run for office again,"

http://www.abc.net.au/news/newsitems/200702/s1850162.htm
I can't imagine in any circumstance to run for office again,"

And this thread is not starting an argument for no reason. It's a much needed wake up call for all the people who are obsessed with badgering Al to run.

[OrangeCountyDemocrat]

50. Strange Wording

Well, if he said it, fine. But that sounds kind of contrived.

He really could end the discussion if he wanted to. Doesn't appear he's ready to quite yet though, as evidenced by the schtick tonight.

[Swamp Rat]

51. You want to hear what Al Gore REALLY said?

Here is the REAL quote in a BBC interview "Climate concert plans unveiled" (Jan. 17th, 2007), which has been misquoted in this thread:

http://search.bbc.co.uk/cgi-bin/search/results.pl?tab=av&q=Al%20Gore&recipe=all&scope=all&edition=i

[helderheid]

60. I get an error - what did he say?

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[Swamp Rat]

70. He said:

"I have no intention of running for president again." When asked if he would state this unequivocally he said, "I can't imagine circumstances when I would run for office again... I have no intention or plans of getting involved in elected politics again."


The OP challenged me to discover Gore's actual words. See posts 36 38 46 if you are curious why I even bothered.

[Guaranteed]

7. You're grasping at straws, now. It's plain to see.

Al Gore is running. He's just running a guerilla campaign.

[RestoreGore]

25. He isn't a liar n/t

[DefenseLawyer]

8. "If nominated, I will not run...

If elected, I will not serve." THAT'S what you say when you really aren't running.

[roamer65]

54. I agree, that's how Sherman and LBJ put it when they wanted no doubts.

Al has not stated it, yet. He has not endorsed another candidate, either. I think I'll keep my powder dry until he makes a decision.

[illinoisprogressive]

9. I just wish on both sides that people keep what he wants in mind.

Not who it would make or not make happy. He deserves peace and happiness. He should only run if he feels he wants to and not to make others happy.
It's his time and his time to be happy. I just wish those who want him to run do so without selfish motives.

[Sperk]

Why not just say, "No, I'm not running."? Maybe he's waiting for US to create

the circumstances in which he could imagine he would run. Draft Gore!

:loveya:

[Faryn Balyncd]

17. I feel a draft......

[halobeam]

10. I just posted this to you in a different thread...

People can and DO support BOTH of his messages...

In addition:

Gore's other message is not to politicize this, and you just did in a very twisted way... we aren't even the freepers man.

[Harper_is_Bush]

18. Oh, I'M the one politicizing this?

Al Gore wins an Academy award and uses the opportunity to ask us all to join in the fight against Global Warming - to treat it not as a political issue but a moral one - and ten threads show up on DU that are completely focussed on asking/badgering/cajoling/begging Al to RUN! RUN! RUN!, but it's me who is politicizing this. Gotcha.

What is this, 1984?

[MedleyMisty]

21. Do our little posts really matter that much?

I want him to run. It'd be nice to actually vote for someone, as opposed to voting against Republicans.

I really don't think that this little post and my thoughts have any sort of effect on him, though.

People are posting on a board on the net that they'd like him to run, not breaking into his house and holding a gun to his head and telling him to run or die.

Also, why do you think that people can't be aware of global warming and doing what they can do about it and also wish that Gore would run? It's quite possible to do both.

[senseandsensibility]

11. That's not grammatical

Did he really say that?

[Harper_is_Bush]

19. See post #16. n/t

[Labors of Hercules]

12. So why not "I will not run for President in 2008"

it is fewer words, no ambiguity, and it doesn't imply any question...

for example: Does he know of a circumstance he couldn't "imagine"?
Knowing he is as intelligent as he is, it is illogical to think that he doesn't know of at least one.

[Atman]

13. Some posters need a lesson in nuanced non-denials

This is pure marketing copy writing 101. The quote you attribute to Gore, even if accurate, does NOT say he WILL NOT RUN. Politicians do this all the time. It is a classic say-nothing sentence which leaves the door wide open. All he has to say if confronted with it is "At the time I said those words, I couldn't imagine the outpouring of support and the passion of so many Americans." blah blah blah.

Come on...stop being so naive! The only words which would constitute a "will not run" pledge would be "I will not run for President under any circumstances." Anything less is a leave-the-door-open stall.


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[Labors of Hercules]

15. CHHEEEERRRSSS MY BROTHER OR SISTER!!!

:toast:

[Lisa0825]

29. EXACTLY!

He has had every chance to just say it flat out, in plain words with no qualifiers, and he has chosen NOT to do that. That, to me, says it is not a done deal. He may not end up running, but I do not think, based on his statements so far, that he has made that decision yet.

[SammyWinstonJack]

63. You could always draw a picture for them.

:evilgrin:

[swimmernsecretsea]

14. I agree with you, despite how unpopular the idea may be.

It's extremely tragic to think that the time for his moment to be President has passed, but I really think it has. I worship the man, and have since I first read "Earth in the Balance" but I don't think it's going to happen. That's not a bad thing—he's done so much good since being out of office that it would almost seem moot. His destiny is to be a great man. Perhaps not President, but still, a great man.

[illinoisprogressive]

20. love your post, swimmern... and agree. what people don't realize is

that sometimes there are more important and better things in store than president. Being president is good but, it's not the only goal of person and sometimes there are more important things in life that wait.

[swimmernsecretsea]

22. Al Gore is our reward.

For the hard work we've all done this year, for almost losing hope, for seeing a glimmer of hope...for all of us. We honor him in so many ways. There is more ways to thank Al Gore than for offering him the job of Chief Executive. I would hope that our way of thanking him will be to listen to what he is so passionate about, and offer our own two strong arms to help our brothers and sisters with.

[Horse with no Name]

66. You just want Obama

Plain and simple truth. Discount Gore all you want. I have a feeling he will surprise you.

[2Design]

24. YEs I read Earth in Balance too back in 1992 - very memorable

He is destined to be a great man - * has reduced the presidency to meaninglessness

[RestoreGore]

26. Yes, and solutions need to be thought of NOW

But that isn't going to happen with all of this BS going on. No wonder he doesn't want to run in this sytem. Too many people are too lazy to really DO anything. They want HIM to do it on top of all he is already doing. They say he is great, but they don't want to help him. They want to use his name for their own political agenda. This is a GREAT NIGHT for this planet and a vindication for THIRTY YEARS of people on all sides of the political aisle IGNORING HIM ON THIS. I think some should practice a bit more humility tonight as well.

[Triana]

27. I don't bother believing anything anyone says unless.....

...it's HIM SAYING **HIMSELF** that he's running. Otherwise, I don't bother getting my hopes up.

HE hasn't said that. I have heard him say the opposite though. As much as I'd like him to run, I still don't have the impression that he IS running - because HE hasn't SAID SO.

Until he does, there's nothing to get excited about - though the Oscar win is quite nice - that does NOT mean he's running!

[shance]

28. I guess you are threatened like others of his rightful position as PRESIDENT.

He was robbed Harper. But I guess that doesnt matter to you.

[Harper_is_Bush]

33. What matters now is our climate crisis.

But I guess that doesn't matter to you.

[choie]

30. Heh. Mangled grammar much? Sounds more like a Bush quote.

Actually, Gore's words were more like, "I can't imagine any circumstance in which I would run for President."

Nevertheless, in my opinion (and clearly many others' too) he is still leaving his options open. My well of hope has not runneth dry.

[Harper_is_Bush]

32. See post #16. n/t

[Harper_is_Bush]

31. AL GORE TONIGHT: "I do not have plans to become a candidate for office again."

Link here: http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=102x2745923

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[Atman]

34. I don't have "PLANS" to go on vacation next summer, but it's likely I will.

Language is a funny thing when you actually read all the words and make an attempt to understand them.

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[Harper_is_Bush]

35. Can you imagine any circumstance in which you go on vacation next summer?

If the answer is yes, then it's less likely that Gore will run than you will go on vacation next summer.

Yes, language. Helluva thing.

[Atman]

37. "Imagine" is the keyword though.

But then, reality strikes, and the unimaginable becomes likely.

Remember, Condi and George couldn't imagine planes hitting the WTC. But they did.

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[Warren DeMontague]

55. Then I'm not sure what you're so worried about.

If you're so sure he's not going to run, why expend all this energy trying to convince people of it?

[Swamp Rat]

36. Oops! You got the quote wrong...

... since you are so concerned about his words. :D

[Harper_is_Bush]

38. See post #16. And then tell me what the correct quote is

since we're both so concerned about his words.

[Swamp Rat]

46. Thanks for the pee pee in the Cheerios!... AND, you are wrong. I looked it up.

edit: I just watched the BBC video. ABC, Huffungton, and you have misquoted Al Gore.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/player/nol/newsid_6360000/newsid_6367200/6367285.stm?bw=nb&mp=rm#

He said: "I have no intention of running for president again." When asked if he would state this unequivocally he said, "I can't imagine circumstances when I would run for office again... I have no intention or plans of getting involved in elected politics again."

[Blue Belle]

39. Meh.... It's usually the same people posting the "Al Gore won't run" threads...

The only person who knows for sure whether Al Gore is going to run or not is Al Gore. Although, if he was going to run... the stars couldn't align themselves any better.

[AtomicKitten]

40. I can't imagine under any circumstance eating squid.

But that's me.

[Harper_is_Bush]

42. And your point is?

It's a loose rule, but staying on topic is appreciated by all.

[Atman]

45. It's a very simple example...

He can't imagine ever eating squid.

But then, his boat capsizes and he drifts to a desert island in the Bay of Squids and is forced to forage for food. Point being, neither Al or the other poster is saying "IT WILL NEVER HAPPEN."

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[AtomicKitten]

47. my point is that I might ....

Never said never, neither did he.

Are you hoping he doesn't run? That seems to be your point.

Sorry my hope annoys you.

[Bryn]

49. She did stay on topic

Didn't you see her awesome graphic art of Al there to show you that she still believes?

[Bryn]

41. It Isn't Over Until Fat Lady Sings

I shall wait and see. I just ignore nay-sayers.

[dysfunctional press]

43. i've never heard him say: "No. i ABSOLUTELY will NOT be a candidate for president in 2008".

until then, i can still hold out hope for the country's future.

[Doremus]

44. When he says "I am not going to run for president" THEN you will know it.

Until then he's uncommitted.

He's going to run though. You can't watch AIT without knowing he's going to run.

[Name removed]

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[Atman]

52. Good catch.

Do I smell mole?

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[A-Schwarzenegger]

57. HIB is still at it, eh?

Eh.

[Warren DeMontague]

59. Either that, or I'm stuck in some kind of weird deja vu time loop.

"It's Groundhog Day!!!"

[OrangeCountyDemocrat]

53. CANADA?? You're From Canada????? LOL!!!!

You're not even able to vote in a U.S. election, and you're lecturing us about whether or not Al Gore will run again?

You don't have a stake in it since you're not a U.S. resident or citizen I imagine.

Perhaps you should concentrate on who you expect does or doesn't want to run to replace Harper, and not whether Al Gore has "plans," or "intentions" to run for office again.

[Harper_is_Bush]

64. I have a very big stake in it. ie. GLOBAL warming. n/t

[Horse with no Name]

68. This is her umpteenth post on Al Gore not running.

It's like a broken record.
Not sure what she is after...but she has done EVERYTHING to dissuade people from supporting Edwards or Gore.

[silverojo]

56. K&R!

Let the whiners blast you. You're 100% right, that people need to quit being so delusional and listen to the man's words. If he's a decent man, he wouldn't lie...so if anyone thinks Gore is lying, they therefore think he's not a decent man, but a liar.

Respect Gore's decision--he no longer works for a single country, but for the entire planet.

[Harper_is_Bush]

67. Thanks. Nicely said. n/t

[JNelson6563]

58. This had to be a rough night for you

Don't worry, there's still a big chance Gore won't run for re-election.

Julie

[Harper_is_Bush]

65. wtf?

rough night for me?
:wtf: