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Lone_Star_Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-25-07 11:17 PM
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To those who insist on dumping on the pro Gore people.
Yes, many of us want Gore to run. Why that appears to bother some to the point that they feel compelled to be bait and be rude is a mystery to me.

For the most part I try and be understanding of others heartfelt political convictions. The exception is when I find them to be harmful to other peoples rights as Americans. As far as I can tell there's no harm coming from those of us who want Al Gore to run for POTUS. We're not doing it to rain on your candidate. We want him to run because we think he's the best and most qualified choice. So why waste time and energy spoiling other peoples hopes and happiness? What are you gaining from it? Do you think you're providing a public service?

Yes, Gore may not run. Yes, Gore may run. That's six of one and half dozen of another. Guess what? We know that and still want him to run.

Lay off. The only thing coming from all this poop tossing is a lot of people smelling bad, and in the end people are going to get banned from DU if things don't chill.

LSD

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Xenotime Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-25-07 11:19 PM
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1. If he ran, he would be the most well informed president in history
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Lone_Star_Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-25-07 11:20 PM
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6. And I think he would win
If not he'd give them a run for his money.

Like I said, Gore people think he's the most qualified for the position. That's why we want him in the race.
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NRaleighLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-25-07 11:19 PM
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2. Well, he has been my president in spirit since the election was stolen
from him/all of us - so here's one North Carolinian who is hoping he decides to go for it. I find myself in a compromise position for one reason or another with just about all of the currently running Dems.
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Guaranteed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-25-07 11:19 PM
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3. Man- the guy is SO FREAKING RUNNING.
It is plainly obvious. Come on! How much more publicity COULD he get?

What is it that is missing to make someone think he ISN'T running! He just said half of the words in front of a billion people! Is it just the last half of the sentence that he hasn't said that makes some people so utterly convinced that he absolutely is NOT running?

This is ridiculous. He can't make it any clearer without announcing.
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Lone_Star_Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-25-07 11:22 PM
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9. I'm in your camp.
What I don't get is why there are so many who think it's their duty to insist that it's not the case.
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Harper_is_Bush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-25-07 11:37 PM
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20. So, you feel the "publicity" he's been getting was calculated by him to be all about running
rather than global warming?

Could you have less respect for the man if you tried?
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Guaranteed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-25-07 11:48 PM
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33. Well, I suppose it would be wrong of him if, by winning the Presidency,
he wouldn't be in the perfect position to actually do something about it.

But, you know, I think maybe he could do something, if he won.
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Harper_is_Bush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-26-07 12:04 AM
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39. Ah, so you effectively are saying he hasn't done anything about global warming as of yet. Nice.
This is the type of thing that truely sickens me.

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Guaranteed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-26-07 12:27 AM
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45. You're just playing games. In theory, today, who could do more
about global warming- Chimp-boy or Gore? That's the point.

And did you know that there are other issues we face as a nation, issues that are even interrelated with global warming? The term Gore used once in describing our country is "dysfunctional." And it's more than just the environment. We have massive trade and federal deficits. We are using a non-renewable resource as our main source of energy to get around. We are financing terrorism doing so, as well. We also have this little soiree going on over in Iraq that it would be nice to get out of before we spend a full trillion dollars on it and lose thousands more of our soldiers and kill hundreds of thousands more Iraqis. But without starting a civil war. And Osama bin Laden is still at large. We're losing our civil liberties, too.

Yes, the earth is warming. But that is not my exclusive issue. Nor is it Al's.
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SharonRB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-25-07 11:19 PM
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4. Thank you for saying this.
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Lone_Star_Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-25-07 11:25 PM
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12. It needed to be said.
Before real damage is done.
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Guaranteed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-25-07 11:28 PM
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15. Man, the deluded people aren't those thinking that Gore is running.
I'm sorry, but, at this point....I just don't know what else people could want other than an actual announcement.

Personally, and I wouldn't put money on this, but if I was him and going to announce, I'd do it at the Live Earth concert.
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Lone_Star_Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-25-07 11:33 PM
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17. That would be a great time
Personally, I expect him to announce after summer. Not that I'm in the know on it in any way. But let me just say that it won't surprise me if he were to wait until then to formally toss his hat in.
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Jeanette in FL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-25-07 11:53 PM
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36. Yes, you are right. It needed to be said
If Al Gore is not your candidate, then move on. Find your candidate and cheer them on.

I love our disfunctional little family.
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NoodleBoy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-25-07 11:20 PM
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5. word
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DeepModem Mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-25-07 11:22 PM
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7. Just checked in while watching -- are you telling me DUers are raining on the Gore parade TONIGHT???
Shame on them!
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Lone_Star_Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-25-07 11:24 PM
Response to Reply #7
10. I was hoping for a truce
He deserves to shine, at least for a night, without being tarnished.
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DeepModem Mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-25-07 11:37 PM
Response to Reply #10
19. I agree with you COMPLETELY --
and I'm a supporter of another candidate.
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illinoisprogressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-25-07 11:22 PM
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8. I'm of the mind that it would be nice but, the man doesn't want to.
Through last summer I kept hoping he would run and was all behind supporting him. I really wanted him to run.
But, slowly it's dawned on me and more and more I beleive the man is very happy in the place he is in now.
I don't think he wants to go back to the world of politics and he feels a freedom and more himself now. he is happy. I don't want him to run unless he wants it and to do it for himself.
Gore deserves happiness.
I don't desparage those who wish and hope, It's nice. I just hope it's for the right reason and not because they want him to even if he doesn't. If they really care about him, wish for him to do what he wants.
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nevergiveup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-25-07 11:32 PM
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16. I agree
The man is comfortable leading the way in what is likely the most important challenge in the history of the earth. I can't imagine him wanting to jump back into the U.S. political pressure cooker. If he decides to do so he certainly has my support but I don't think it is in the cards.
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John Q. Citizen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-26-07 12:18 AM
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41. It's too late; Al Gore is the slave of the people, his people. I think he wants
to be president.

I'm game!
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patrice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-25-07 11:25 PM
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11. He already won once.
Edited on Sun Feb-25-07 11:27 PM by patrice
And that was with Joe Lieberman hanging around his neck like an albatross. What if he had Edwards or Obama instead?

With various people saying ________ can't win, or _________ can't win, candidate partisans are real irritable about Gore.

Personally, I think saying ________ can't win is bullshit. Really, it just translates to "we can't figure out/do what is necessary to make it possible for _________ to win." I don't believe that. I seriously suspect that those who say it don't want __________ to win, or don't want to do what is necessary to make that happen.
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Lone_Star_Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-25-07 11:27 PM
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13. Isn't that the truth!
Its a case if it being easier to say that they can't rather than do the work need to ensure they do win.
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patrice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-25-07 11:44 PM
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29. I think all of them should be regarded as potential winners, with the difference being
that Gore IS a PROVEN winner.

Come on, does anyone really think Obama's color is an insurmountable impediment, except those who want it to be? Yeah, maybe the deep South will vote against him, but okay, let's have this thing out. I think we out number people with that attitude.

Self-fulfilling prophecy is soooooooo powerful. Saying "People won't vote for a woman" makes people not vote for a woman, like there's no way to counter their concerns if they're validly identified. I just don't believe that. I believe the people who do this stuff are operating with **blunt** instruments. They haven't gone after the information that they need about people's attitudes and developed specific programs to deal with those attitudes in very specific ways. These cookie cutter campaigns are dangerously obsolete, as we saw so amply demonstrated when Kerry, really way more than just an adequate candidate, went down in defeat.
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marmar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-25-07 11:28 PM
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14. Great post....
No one can respectfully disagree anymore. Points have to be made in the most strident manner possible, it seems.
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Harper_is_Bush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-25-07 11:35 PM
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18. Al Gore asked that this not be a political issue. The issue is global warming
and that's what he chose to highlight tonight.

I have no problem with you or anyone else wanting Gore to run, but this moment in time is the wrong one to be focussed on that. It feels disrespectful to Gore and what HE wants people to be focussed on.
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Lisa0825 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-25-07 11:38 PM
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21. Oh PUH-leeze
Edited on Sun Feb-25-07 11:51 PM by Lisa0825
If that was true, he wouldn't have JOKED about it. Gimme a freakin' break. :eyes:

edited to add: My argument with this post is not whether or not he is running, but whether he would find this disrespectful. I think that was a HUGE leap to take, and the fact that he jokes about it himself totally disproves your statement.
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Harper_is_Bush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-25-07 11:42 PM
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28. The joke was at the expense of all the people who can't stop yapping about it.
The joke was about the people who continuously badger him to run, not about global warming.

Pretty obvious.
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Lisa0825 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-25-07 11:44 PM
Response to Reply #28
31. I don't care HOW you interpreted the joke.
Either way, your statement that it is disrespectful to him is 100% wrong. If he can joke about it himself, then how the hell is it disrespectful?
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Lone_Star_Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-25-07 11:45 PM
Response to Reply #28
32. Because it's acceptable humor to laugh at the likes of President Carter?
No, I think that would have been in poor taste and I don't think Gore would do such a thing.
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Kurovski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-25-07 11:55 PM
Response to Reply #28
37. No, it is not about the yappers. When he states outright that he IS NOT running,
THEN it will be a joke about the "yappers", as you so ungraciously put it.
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Admiral Loinpresser Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-26-07 12:04 AM
Response to Reply #28
38. Don't think so...
he did the segment with Leo Dicaprio. I bet Leo wants him to run. And Clooney, etc. etc.
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fooj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-26-07 04:20 AM
Response to Reply #28
58. He doesn't look "badgered" to me.


Well done, sir.
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Lone_Star_Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-25-07 11:38 PM
Response to Reply #18
22. As disrespectful as his joke laden with political innuendo?
You know, I think he'd be flattered rather than feel disrespectful.
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Lisa0825 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-25-07 11:38 PM
Response to Reply #22
23. GMTA:-)
:pals:
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Lone_Star_Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-25-07 11:39 PM
Response to Reply #23
25. Great minds!
:pals:
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Guaranteed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-25-07 11:39 PM
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24. Sure does seem odd he would make a joke like that.... nt
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Lone_Star_Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-25-07 11:40 PM
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26. It does indeed, doesn't it?
:D
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DKRC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-26-07 04:11 AM
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57. I had a wicked visual of G'Duh doing a faceplant off the couch
and Crashcart seizing up on all systems as he said, "My fellow Americans..."

:evilgrin:
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lligrd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-25-07 11:40 PM
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27. Run Gore Run
And I am going to continue begging unless there is absolutely no hope. I can't even hear the naysayers.
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Vincardog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-26-07 05:12 PM
Response to Reply #27
80. Ya got that right. We Need to Re-Elect GORE,
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sproutster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-25-07 11:44 PM
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30. Amen, I always refer to him as our next president at work. :)
Drives HALF of my co-workers nuts. I'm in Boise ID
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OPERATIONMINDCRIME Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-25-07 11:48 PM
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34. Just To Be Clear,
If you happened to be referring to me in any way at all (though you very well may not have been), I hope you understand that I'm EVERY BIT as wanting of him to run as anyone else here. I'd LOVE for him to announce and would back him before anyone else in a heartbeat.

Personally, I don't think it's going to happen, because even though I want him to I can't help but thinking that he's so disgusted with the poison of politics that re-entering the arena is the LAST thing he wants to do. His words towards the subject make me believe that even more. I also think that those saying his joke tonight showed intent of his running are severely misguided and looking into things way too deeply and irrationally. But just because I feel that way doesn't mean I'm against his running one bit. I wish he'd run in the worst way, cause I think he's exactly what our country needs. I just can separate the line of want and likelihood, is all. Just wanted you to know my position, in case you thought for a second that I had anything against those hoping he'll run.
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Kurovski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-26-07 12:20 AM
Response to Reply #34
42. Here is my response in a style typical of OPERATIONMINDCRIME:
:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

How do you do it? It feels just awful.

And now for my own personal response: Hope is not a rational thing, yet it does spring eternal. Why do you seek to stomp it with unrelieved scorn, mockery and rudeness? You say one thing, yet behave in another way that would belie that. The negativity around a Gore run is affectively delivered by you through those means, despite your protestations here.


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OPERATIONMINDCRIME Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-26-07 07:34 AM
Response to Reply #42
62. ROFLMAO!!!!!! Oh That It Just TOOOOO Silly!
You are so off base it's not even funny. One of the most misguided and flatly wrong premises I've probably ever seen is the one you put forth now saying that because in another thread that hilariously declared that Gore is definitively running because he made a silly joke about it at the Oscars I stated that it was looking into it too deeply, that it means I have negativity towards a Gore run. :rofl:

Are you for real? Are you really so misguided to believe such things? Do you not realize how utterly silly such an attitude towards me is for that?

I got news for ya: You are SO wrong here. SO wrong. I love Al and would love him to run. But that has NOTHING to do with the fact that twisting his appearance and joke last night to be a definitive sign that he's running is one of the absolute silliest and foolish things I've seen on here! So for you to twist my intent and offer the bitterness and declarations towards me above that you had for it is just so hilariously silly and misguided you have no idea.

You crack me up!

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
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Kurovski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-26-07 03:13 PM
Response to Reply #62
79. Side-splitting.
As are the weakening seams in your technique.

You're quite "the great communicator".
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Lone_Star_Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-26-07 11:26 AM
Response to Reply #34
65. I wasn't
I saw threads popping up last night that were uncalled for and was attempting to end some arguments before people get banned for being foolish.
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gratefultobelib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-26-07 10:35 PM
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81. FWIW--I totally agree with you!
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mzmolly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-25-07 11:50 PM
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35. Gore first, Obama second...
That's my ticket.
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LibertyorDeath Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-26-07 12:14 AM
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40. He will leave all contenders in the dust !
Democrat & Rethuglican

that's why they are so down on him.
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Breeze54 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-26-07 12:23 AM
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43. Who rained on anybody's parade?
:shrug:

I saw one thread where it was stated that he was running.
People disagreed. So what?

It's a messageboard, not an election.
Members have the right at DU to post their opinions.

That doesn't mean they are against the pro-Gore camp.
It just means they don't believe it.
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crispini Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-26-07 12:44 AM
Response to Reply #43
46. No, that's not entirely true.
There are some people who have always expressed the opinion that they think he won't run, but are respectful, regardless. Then there are some people who really ARE "pissing on the pro-Gore camp" ... I'll cite specifics if you want. ;)
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Lone_Star_Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-26-07 12:26 PM
Response to Reply #46
73. Exactly
Saying I don't think he will run and telling pro Gore people they're delusional, fools, disrespectful, etc. are very different things.
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Blue Belle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-26-07 10:55 PM
Response to Reply #73
82. It's the "Disrespectful" comment that cracks me up the most!
Edited on Mon Feb-26-07 10:56 PM by Blue Belle
WTF? What bizzarro world did I walk into where hoping someone runs for president is considered disrespectful! Unreal! :eyes:
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Lone_Star_Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-26-07 12:34 PM
Response to Reply #43
75. Yes, they do. The only stipulation is that it be done respectfully
Which was what prompted my post.
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Pastiche423 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-26-07 12:24 AM
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44. K, R and thank you for this post
To the parade pissers -

Karma's gonna getcha.
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nam78_two Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-26-07 12:52 AM
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47. I am hoping he runs
Edited on Mon Feb-26-07 12:56 AM by nam78_two
I don't understand the people who keep saying "he has more important things to do" :shrug:. I agree that saving the environment is the biggest priority of our time, but imo however much advocacy he does as a private citizen, his power in this regard would just be so much greater as the POTUS :shrug:.

How can anyone who has followed what the chimp has been doing these past 6 years say that the POTUS does not have the power to do a lot in this regard?

I also find it rather insulting how some of the posters make snide remarks about all those who want Gore to run, as though we know/care little about environmental issues and are just trying to reap political capital out of his recent popularity. As someone, who has been an active environmentalist for upwards of 10 years now, I find these assumptions annoying.
I want Gore to run and its because I think the world's most influential country at this point in time, needs someone at the top, who makes the environment a priority. It ranked 26th on the Democratic platform for the '06 election. Why is that so hard to understand?
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Mabus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-26-07 01:56 AM
Response to Reply #47
53. Well said
I agree. I respect Gore and his stance on a lot of issues. The man has been incredible. Think about it, when he launched CurrentTv a few years ago people asked "who wants to watch homemade videos?" but what is one of the most popular sites? Youtube where people post their own video creations. Gore has a keen sense in a lot of areas and, personally, I find it disrepectful of some posters who prefer to see him as being one-dimensional. He's a capable human being who do more than one thing at a time. The man is writing a book on politics that will be released in May. He's able to do more than one thing at a time and I really resent when people only see one aspect of his life, i.e. global warming.

Gore understands, as he made it clear in AIT that living a sustainable existence means jobs, a better direction for technology and it means cleaner water and air which means healthier people. Global climate change is the result of our misuse of resources. Being an environmentalist means understanding the interconnectiveness of nature and our planet. Gore understands this, it is just too bad that some people are so willing to pigeon hole him as being incapable of walking and chewing gum.

I agree with what you have said nam78_two. I've been fighting an environmental fight for 20 years now to protect some wetlands, some of it is still in pristine condition. In those 20 years I've also been able to live a full life. I can protect the environment and express my interest that Gore run for president in 2008. If Al calls a press conference or does another interview on 60 Minutes and announces, like he did in Dec. 2002 that he has ruled out running then I'll give up. Until that day happens, I'll continue to work on the environment, poltics (local and national) and I will let it be known that I want Gore as my president in 2008. Like you, Gore and a whole host of others, I can do more than one thing at a time and one of those other things is encouraging Gore to run.
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nam78_two Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-26-07 11:32 AM
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69. :)
A :toast: to you and your long fight!
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Warren DeMontague Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-26-07 12:56 AM
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48. Although I have to say, we're so clearly in the majority around here
it's hard to feel too persecuted. :hi:
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nam78_two Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-26-07 12:56 AM
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49. Heh thats true.nt
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Bryn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-26-07 01:03 AM
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50. Someone
got so annoying, going around slamming Al supporters over and over that I had to put her on ignore. It is NOT OVER until FAT LADY Sings. Until then, we have the right to keep on believing that Al will run. We will accept it when we know for sure he won't and will still support him, his work and his fight for the Earth.
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SharonRB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-26-07 12:38 PM
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78. Gee, I can't imagine who that might have been
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Jeanette in FL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-27-07 07:13 AM
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83. I bet I know the answer
Pick on me, please, I know the answer, please pick me. :hi:

Agreed, until Al Gore tells me to move on, I will work as hard as I can to see him "restored" to his rightful place in history.
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bleever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-26-07 01:06 AM
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51. Al should run, and we should hope, and ask, and act.
:thumbsup:
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orleans Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-26-07 01:16 AM
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52. an academy award for an environmental doc? a nobel peace prize nominee?
this would be one way for us to get some tolerance and respect back from the rest of the world.

this man is a patriot -- i think he'll do what he believes is best for our country. (and in my opinion that would include running again)
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silverojo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-26-07 02:19 AM
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54. To answer your question
I don't like the "Gore for '08" comments because they're disrespectful to Al Gore himself.

He's publicly stated over and over again that he isn't going to run for office because it would take too much time away from his #1 priority: The fight to stop global warming.

How would you like it if you had a job that you felt passionately about because it benefited (insert your favorite cause here), and your relatives kept nagging you to quit that job and run for dog catcher instead? Well, that's what you're doing to Al Gore. Being President lasts for 8 years, tops; being the world's foremost voice that's educating people about global warming and how to slow it down is going to have a much longer-lasting effect.

If you truly respect Al Gore, respect his decision, and respect what he wants to do with his life. For those who refuse to respect that, you bet I'm going to bash on those people, because I don't like it when people nag and whine and refuse to respect another person's choice.

I find it amusing that you want people to "lay off" the Gore-for-2008 folks, yet you won't "lay off" Al Gore. It's called hypocrisy.

LET AL GORE BE THE ONE TO DECIDE WHAT HE WANTS TO DO WITH HIS OWN LIFE.
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cascadiance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-26-07 03:17 AM
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55. He will decide, but likely he'll need to know how WE feel to help him decide!
Edited on Mon Feb-26-07 03:19 AM by calipendence
And I for one as well as many other people are going to keep reminding him that he's our first choice now! And I don't think it's disrepectful at all! He's not categorically said "NO, I'M NOT RUNNING, LEAVE ME ALONE NOW!" If he did, then the time to back off would be at hand.

My first choice was Russell Feingold earlier. He came out and pointedly said that he'd decided not to run. I respect that, and I also respect his reason for doing so too, since he wants to work in a congress to get a lot done the next two years that he now has power to do something in. That's an admirable goal. I'm still hoping he will be in a VP slot of someone's ticket. I don't keep bugging him, because he's made it CLEAR that he's not running for the top of the ticket. I will remind him that we still want him to consider a VP slot though!

Gore's CORRECT strategy, is to not play all of his cards yet! That's what he appears to be doing now. I believe he knows it! And I believe he eats up our comments to ask him to run as fuel to continue hist strategy fo keeping the other side guessing! He knows we want him. He just doesn't want corporate america to know how he wants to win. And I'm WITH him on making sure he follows a good strategy in that regard, even if I and many here aren't clued in on the true details of it.

He could be truly wanting to stay out too. We don't know. But I think there would be more forceful ways to say so if he wanted to. I don't think given his still remaining aloof that asking him to run is disrespectful at all! He knows he will have our ears when he decides to run or he decides to endorse whom he wants to run! And I think it would be defeatist for us just to give up at this point too, without getting a definitive answer one way or the other!
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Warren DeMontague Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-26-07 03:27 AM
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56. Right. He's just too stupid and politically unversed to know he has to say "I am not running"
Yeah. Al Gore has NO FREAKIN CLUE that "I am not planning on running" -which is ALL he has said to dissuade speculation, friend- is not the same thing, and leaves the door open.

Right. We're just harassing poor old Al Gore, bugging the crap out of him. He really looked irritated with the obvious speculation tonight, when he joked about it at the Oscars.

Give me a break. Obviously some folks -for reasons known only to them- would really like to get his name out of consideration, but let's not use "protecting" Al Gore from all this pesky political speculation as the excuse, huh? He knows full well how to end it, and he could do it in one sentence.

And he HAS NOT DONE THAT, much to the apoplectic chagrin of the folks who get hives when they see him kick ass at every poll that includes his name.
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Raksha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-26-07 04:23 AM
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59. You are so right!
Al Gore knows full well how to end the speculation...IF he wanted to end it.
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CitizenLeft Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-26-07 04:26 AM
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61. well said.
Edited on Mon Feb-26-07 04:37 AM by CitizenLeft
Also, wasn't it reported on Hardball by (can't remember who, I think it was a woman Dem consultant) that there was a group of Gore supporters, meeting with his knowledge, in Boston to discuss a run in '08? I may be getting it mixed up with another report that there was a similar meeting in New Hampshire a week or two earlier. These were two separate incidents, taking place within the last month.

Why would he announce (1) before the Oscars (2) before the Nobel Prize is announced and (3) before we're all sick of Clinton, Obama, and Edwards? He wouldn't. If I were him, I'd wait. At least until November. He can afford to wait.

I don't get why it's necessary to convince me or anyone else that he's not running. What is the problem?

EDIT: Found one of the links: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2007/02/08/supporters-former-advise_n_40783.html">Huffington Post

Here's the full article: http://www.cnn.com/2007/POLITICS/02/09/draftgore.2008.ap/index.html">from CNN

I don't know, I find it hard to believe that his top policy advisor would participate in a "serious" "conversation" without discussing it with him first, and without knowing that Gore absolutely won't run, period. And if he hadn't made up his mind, or wanted to appear reticent, that's exactly what his spokesperson would say: that's he's not involved. Of course he's not.

Also, it appears that this is the same meeting - it says Concord, but the meeting took place in Boston.
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BuelahWitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-26-07 04:24 AM
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60. So how do you explain his new book?
"The Assault On Reason" has nothing directly to do with climate crisis. It deals with other issues as well. I'm sure promoting that book is going to take him away from climate crisis...
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Lone_Star_Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-26-07 11:24 AM
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64. I'm not presuming to make his decisions for him
It seems to me that it's others here who are doing the presuming as to what Gore is feeling.

I'd like to see him run and my voicing of that desire neither makes it so nor does it in any way cause harm to Mr. Gore or his work. When he uses one of the many opportunities he has to be in front of the cameras to say that he's decided not to run for office in 2008 I'll respect that decision.
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rebel with a cause Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-26-07 10:28 AM
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63. My motto is:
Don't step on my toes and I won't step on yours.

I'm not a big Gore person, but I don't have anything against him except the Lieberman thing, and I can get over that, maybe. ;-)
But yesterday I posted an article on Gore which I found to be very positive, but was nervous on how it would be taken because some people on here are very touchy. Sure enough, one person said the article was snarky. Most people were very pleased with it, but you get my point. I am afraid to post good press articles on other candidates that are not the ones I am committed to because of the possible reactions. Personally I would rather keep the climate positive and wait until the race gets heated before any of us take on the battle. Right now we are all just waiting to see how it plays out, and the more informed we are on all the candidates the better, and we should all keep a more open mind. I know the candidate that I like and I know a candidate that I don't, but I am not going to put that candidate(s) down. I also know there are others who could come into the race that I would also like, so like I said it is better to wait and see at this point, and do so politely.

For me, you turn more people off to your candidate with venom for others. When my candidate gets attacked, I always have an opinion of who the poster is supporting, and you can always prove it by just watching for their posts elsewhere. :evilgrin:
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Neecy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-26-07 11:27 AM
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66. on a lighter note...
Tipper looked terrific last night.



(yes, I'm pro-Gore)
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Lone_Star_Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-26-07 11:30 AM
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68. Stunning!
And very classy.
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helderheid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-26-07 11:46 AM
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71. Beautiful couple!
:loveya:
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Pacifist Patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-26-07 12:38 PM
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77. Wow! She looks incredible.
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helderheid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-26-07 11:28 AM
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67. What you said. Recommended!
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Apollo11 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-26-07 11:45 AM
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70. Al Gore is the best person for the job (period)
What unites "pro-Gore people" is the belief that Al Gore is the best qualified person for the job (of President), in terms of his experience, knowledge, intelligence and judgement.

As to the question of whether he will run (or not) -- I think Al Gore is keeping his options open right now, watching how the "pre-season" goes. I don't think he yet knows what he will do.

There is no hurry for Gore to enter the race for 2008. He is doing a great job raising public awareness about the climate crisis (winning an Oscar for his efforts). He will testify at a US Congressional Hearing in Washington on March 21st. He has the SOS concerts coming up on July 7th.

Gore is also busy working on his next book "The Assault on Reason" - to be published in May. The theme of this book - why we need better decision-making in government - is very timely (whether he runs or not).

Depending on how things pan out, and the reaction to his book, Gore can consider his situation over the summer and announce his decision (or if you prefer - "change his mind") sometime in the fall.

Don't forget that Bill Clinton did not kick-off his campaign until October 1991. But Al Gore already has nationwide respect and name recognition that other wannabees can only wish for!

And by the way - Gore is younger than Hillary, Clark, McCain and Guiliani (I'm not saying age is the most important factor, but you should be ready to serve for a full 8 years).

Unless and until Gore endorses another candidate, we have to assume that he is keeping his options open. So it is too soon for those of us who prefer Gore to switch our allegiance.


Let's all find ways to show our support for Al Gore! :patriot:

Read Rolling Stone magazine: WHY GORE SHOULD RUN -- AND HOW HE CAN WIN
http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/story/13248532/why_gore_should_run__and_how_he_can_win

Get ready for Al Gore's next book - The Assault on Reason - out in May!
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/09/16/AR2006091600877.html

Visit the following websites:
www.algore.com
www.algore.org
www.draftgore.com - Sign the petition! :)

:kick:
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Autonomy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-26-07 12:17 PM
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72. Are there really such people on DU?
I guess I don't visit often enough. It seems to me that wanting Al Gore for prez is the closest thing to unanymity around here, and considering the subject matter, that's saying a lot.

Just the fact that Al exists makes it really hard for me to consider anyone else for the job, whether he's running or not.
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RestoreGore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-26-07 12:30 PM
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74. People who support his work now w/o the political speculation are not anti _Gore
So your title is erroneous and that is an UNFAIR characterization that needs to stop. And if this thread doesn't promote poop throwing I don't know what would.
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Lone_Star_Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-26-07 12:37 PM
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76. That's not what my post was about
So my title is not erroneous and you are mistaken.

However, if you feel that my thread prompts poop throwing please hit alert and explain why you feel so to the mods. That wasn't my intention nor do I see how does so.
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Terri S Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-27-07 07:44 AM
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84. bottom line....
Al Gore is one of the finest human beings I've ever had the pleasure to witness. Whatever he decides to do, he will be an indispensable asset to this country and the world. I never refer to the man as other than President Gore. Whether he formally gains the title that he was duly elected to own or not, he has done more than any politician in my 55 yr memory to uplift humanity. Quite selfishly, I hope he runs and wins what was rightfully his 7 years ago. Whatever he does, he will continue to do more than anyone in government that I know of to uplift the human condition.

Aren't there more important things to argue about?
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