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helderheid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-26-07 04:21 PM
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Reminder: GIULIANI: OUR TROOPS at fault for failure to secure the weapons dump in Iraq
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helderheid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-26-07 04:28 PM
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1. k
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wildbilln864 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-26-07 04:29 PM
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2. Knowing full well that...
the troops were doing what they were ordered to do! Giulliani is a POS IMHO!
Great find. Thanks for posting!
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helderheid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-26-07 04:34 PM
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3. Media Matters ROCKS.
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blues90 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-26-07 05:06 PM
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4. GIULIANI: is the worst pile of human waste ever
He walks through NYC like the hero yet he would not let the police and fire dept have radio contact whcih would have saved many fireman on 9/11 .

He has to know damn well that the troops were following orders to secure the oil wells and leave the ammo stock alone .

They should send GIULIANI straight to Iraq in uniform because what this country does not need is another freak like this skull headed moron anywhere near the government even if this involved bathroom cleaning detail .
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helderheid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-26-07 05:19 PM
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5. No kidding
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tabasco Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-26-07 05:22 PM
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6. The fault was that of General Tommy Franks, Centcom Commander.
Franks was aware of the ammo dump and its contents before the war even started, He failed to give orders to any unit secure it. One platoon could have secured that ammo dump but Franks failed to give the order. A gross violation of the principle of war of security and our troops are still being blown up by those high grade explosives.
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Gabi Hayes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-26-07 05:30 PM
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9. what, exactly, did GIuliani have to say about Franks' involvement in
that particular issue?

nothing, did you say?

thank you


case closed
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Hosnon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-26-07 05:23 PM
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7. Kick, kick, kick, kick, kick...keep this kicked!!! NT.
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helderheid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-26-07 05:28 PM
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8. Thanks MJD!
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Gabi Hayes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-26-07 05:31 PM
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10. while we're on the subject of St. Rudy, you might find this interesting
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helderheid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-26-07 05:37 PM
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12. ooooooh thanks for this link!
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Gabi Hayes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-26-07 05:40 PM
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14. thx....and for fun, just type ''Rudy Giuliani'' in on the youtube search deal. I spent
Edited on Mon Feb-26-07 05:41 PM by Gabi Hayes
a couple of hours looking at stuff the other day.

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helderheid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-26-07 05:50 PM
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15. Loved his dress
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Gabi Hayes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-26-07 05:51 PM
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16. if you liked that outfit, wait'll you see this.....
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Hosnon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-26-07 05:32 PM
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11. I don't doubt that this will be brought up during the election but I would like it to be
Edited on Mon Feb-26-07 05:33 PM by MJDuncan1982
a permanent part of the election "psyche".
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Gabi Hayes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-26-07 05:38 PM
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13. exactly. can you remember the absolute FUROR they made over
Kerry's remarks about Bush, which were twisted into a comletely different meaning?

the M$M ran with the right wing Kerry-dissed-troops meme so LONG and so HARD that it caused him to declare that he wouldn't run again for Pres.

the M$M is POISED to do the exact same thing to whomever wins the demnom.

conversely, you can be SURE that clips like this regarding Giuliani will never see the light of day; if they do, they'll make it for one news cycle, and that will be IT.

no swiftboating of America's mayor, truthful or not, will be allowed by the corporate media

just wait and see.....I hope I'm wrong, but just use Bush 2000/2004. lookit what happened to Dan Rather when he tried to bring the AWOL story up on a national level.
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w8liftinglady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-26-07 06:10 PM
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17. kicking for this human swill
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Bobbie Jo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-26-07 06:12 PM
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18. Oh yeah, he'll fit right in with the pukes in DC.
How bout a 5th rec. :thumbsup:
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Gabi Hayes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-26-07 06:13 PM
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19. here's another Rudy thread.....lots of links
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helderheid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-26-07 06:48 PM
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20. thanks GH!
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Gabi Hayes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-26-07 06:59 PM
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21. sure.....He's going to win the nomination, barring some gigantic, and highly public meltdown.
unless, as one of the bloggers said in one of those links I posted, McCain's Rovian boiler roomers can get enough of the ample evidence of Giuliani's corruption/megalomania into the M$M, we are going to be looking at a President Giuliani in two years.

that's a VERY scary prospect
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helderheid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-26-07 07:33 PM
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22. POSSIBLE president giuliani! Of course we have to get rid of the evote machines!
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Gabi Hayes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-26-07 07:35 PM
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23. People who support paper ballots
support AlQaeda!
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helderheid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-26-07 07:38 PM
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25. Ah shit! NOW you tell me!
:rofl:
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-26-07 07:38 PM
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24. He was saying this because Kerry pointed it out during campaign and Rudy and other GOPs
quickly dumped on the whole story.


That has been a sticking point for me with the bigname Democrats who refused to get on these daily news shows and counter the bigname GOPs who showed up consistently for Bush to push lies like these.
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helderheid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-26-07 11:34 PM
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26. BOO!!
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Quantess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-27-07 01:48 AM
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27. ....
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SalmonChantedEvening Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-27-07 07:00 AM
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28. Webster's is gonna need to add this definition...
Support(v) To blame or hide behind. To use as a political tool when necessary.
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The Count Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-27-07 05:50 PM
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29. These need to be secured somewhere - just in case...
They won't be available on you tube for long.
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helderheid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-28-07 12:03 PM
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30. KIIIICK
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Bandit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-28-07 01:02 PM
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31. He is correct in that the ammo dumps were not secured but troops
don't make the decisions. Decisions are made by upper echelon. It ain't the troops that are to blame but the leaders and we all know where the buck stops...CIC the War Prezdent...
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Bandit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-28-07 01:02 PM
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32. He is correct in that the ammo dumps were not secured but troops
don't make the decisions. Decisions are made by upper echelon. It ain't the troops that are to blame but the leaders and we all know where the buck stops...CIC the War Prezdent...
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