Latest RW meme. Quote: "Did Al Gore fly on a private jet to the Oscars?"

[Gabi Hayes]

I just heard some blonde bimbette ask that question on Tucker's show.

You should have seen the smug, sneering countenance.....oooohhhh, how I'd like to.....

nobody answered it, so I wonder what the reality is?

My guess is that he flew commercial, and this is just another of those "questions" they like to ask that absolve them of responsibility for making false accusations.

this was during a discussion of Gore's possibly running in 08, while mentioning that he's third in many polls.

EDIT: Wolf B is going to discuss the political impact of Gore's appearance at the Oscars?

Prediction: bigtime slamming will occur

[Gabi Hayes]

1. See if this gets repeated by all the usual suspects.

I'll be surprised if it isn't

[Rex]

4. Well they did so well with Edwards house, why not try it on another

prominent Dem? I've got CNN/HNN on so we shall see if they say anything.

[kansasblue]

2. he's a private citizen..... he can fly what he wants.

Isn't that really just a govenment employee/represenative issue?

[Gabi Hayes]

5. no. she was trying to make him out to be a big hypocrite.

did you see that thread here earlier that claims Gore uses twenty times the electricity as the average Tennessee consumer?

the claim was made by some RW "public interest" group

[Dr.Phool]

15. That's been going around since at least September.

I was talking to a freeper after a candidate forum, and he refuses to see "An Inconvenient Truth" because Gore flies around the country on a jet.

His arms would be awful tired if he wasn't flying on a jet.

[Gabi Hayes]

20. she made a very clear distinction between a private and commercial jet,

and the effects both have on the environment.

that was her point: using tiny little points of obfuscatory BS, combined with smearing assertion, a 'cleverly' disguised as an honest question, to belittle Gore, replant the seed that he's just a hypocrite.

[peacetalksforall]

16. Her point is that the private jet requires too much fossil fuel = in other

words - she is insinuating that he is a phony - he flies off to accept an Oscar on the effect to the environment and uses all that fuel to fly privately. Says he should have flown commercially (or a bus - my words).

That creature is lucky that the nation is not questioning the unbelievable amount of fuel it's costing for Generals and everyone else to commute back and forth to Iraq over a three year period.

Anyone want to guess the number of gallons of fuel that's been used for commuting? Well, I guess that's just the cost of perpetual war unfairly paid by the taxpayers, including illegal immigrants.

[Cabcere]

21. Not to mention the fact that

Little Lord Pissypants flew back to Texas most nights on the campaign trail to sleep in his own bed. But of course the freepers aren't going to bitch about HIS (vastly more inefficient and vain) use of fuel. :grr: :mad: :puke:

[Ian David]

3. Yes, Al Gore DID fly in a private plane to The Oscars. Here is a photo

[Gabi Hayes]

8. what're you, a comedian? guess so. HAAAAAAAAAA

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=389&topic_id=291300&mesg_id=291300

[LSparkle]

9. LOL! That Hanretty byotch is a piece of ... work

We ought to be throwing the same things out -- who pays for Swingin Dick Deadeye to go flying all over the world on Air Force Two, burning tons of fossil fuel?

How much energy does BILL FRIST's house use in a year?

As Hillary has said, let's DECK our opponents!!!

[karlrschneider]

6. If he did, I don't care.

If the president can run around in a 747, Mr. Gore can ride in something that takes 1/50th the fuel...and so can Speaker Pelosi.

[Dr.Phool]

7. I saw him pedaling across I-40 on a unicycle a month ago.

Glad he got there in time.

[tridim]

10. Yea, I just turned off Tucker's crap show because of their smugness

They're also claiming that anything "Clinton" = impeachment. She was saying that's why Dems don't like Hillary, because she reminds everyone about Bill's impeachment. What a fucking dumb-ass.

[Fridays Child]

11. And asking the question actually puts the idea in people's minds that he...

...did fly by private jet, whether or not it's true. After all, the only difference between the question and the statement is the punctuation at the end. Fox Noise does this all the time.

It should be said, too, that, if Al Gore flew by private jet, he most definitely purchased carbon offsets to make up for it.

[rodeodance]

22. yes, it is why they do it.

[WI_DEM]

12. which is worse? Gore flying to the oscars in a private jet or Bush lying to get us in a war?

which has cost over 3000 American lives and many, many more Iraqi lives. Hmm, that's a tough one.

[mac56]

13. He's well known for buying carbon credits

when he flies anywhere, let alone on a private plane.

The RW critics can bite me.

[librechik]

23. Here's the CORRECT response--and why don't Gore's critics buy carbon credits

if they are so concerned about energy being used recklessly...

[Canuckistanian]

30. Right, by flying that way, he does more for the environment

Because he's actually putting his money where his mouth is.

Something his critics avoid at all costs.

[Gabi Hayes]

14. Latest offal from this nasty little b*****'s mouth: ''There's plenty of time for Clinton

to get caught with his pants down!"

this, while discussing whether WJC will have an effect on Hill's run.

I'm still waiting to see who she is.

sorry for the b-word, but I just couldn't help myself.

culpa

[Bucky]

17. It sure seems like a lot of posters here are conceding the facts behind the smear

The response is this: "Quit asking misleading questions and engaging in snarky innuendo. If you have facts to show, show them. If you don't, then shut up and quit lying."

This statement of course should be said with a pleasing smile on your face.

[Gabi Hayes]

24. Exactly. I was just going to post that I wondered why Tucker and Weisberg

both let that nasty little insinuation pass without comment.

they SHOULD have asked her why she put it that way. If she KNEW he'd flown private, why didn't she just come out and SAY SO?

but they didn't

what a surprise

[Gabi Hayes]

18. and who's that simpering little twit? Jacob Weisberg, Slate Editor,

so-called "liberal," publisher of Bushisms.

bash dems

rinse

bash dems some

spin

bash dems some more

hang out to dry

[Botany]

I smell Creative Response Concepts

They start much of this shit. Plant a talking point and get their pimps in
the media to repeat it and repeat it the truth be damned.

BTW the big picture is what happens w/ CO 2 on a global scale not
just what is Al Gore's carbon footprint. It is a big plus and minus
concept so if Al flies a private plane to a talk and puts out x amount of
CO 2 but inspires 3,200 to all reduce their CO 2 output the big picture
for planet health says good on Al .... because all those people changing
their action along w/ their family and friends that will save tons of CO 2 far more
then was produced by Al's plane.

[C_U_L8R]

19. Even if Al rode a friggin horse

those rightwing jerks would be complaining about equine flatulence

[malaise]

25. They are afraid that he runs

They only understand slash and burn politics. Ignore them.

[Gabi Hayes]

29. That's what both Gore and Kerry tried to do initially, but by the time they realized

the devastating effects such smear campaigns had on their campaigns, it was too late.

this is what they're best at

you're so correct, though, that they're afraid he's going to run, and they KNOW he'd make a much tougher opponent than anybody else on the Dem horizon. that's why they're gearing up the smear machine so soon.

[malaise]

34. It's too late this time

Fugg Tucker and the rest of his goons

[SammyWinstonJack]

31. And if he doesn't run, this will be the reason, most likely.

:grr:

[Gabi Hayes]

33. I think you're right. what person of sound mind would want to subject

his family to what they suffered at the hands of those vermin in 2000?

[Straight Shooter]

26. Gore buys carbon offsets. He's explained this before. It's a non-issue.

Right-wingers are really scraping the dregs lately, aren't they?

[SallyMander]

27. Al offsets all of his travel

and other carbon-emissions producing activities:

http://www.nativeenergy.com/Splash/ClimateCrisis/ClimateCrisis.html?climatecrisis


I did mine too!

[Lone_Star_Dem]

28. Wasn't it Hannity that was attempting a similar smear on Gore recently?

I know someone was because I'm already schooled on the facts.

Gore does fly commercial when it's possible. He also purchases offsets to account for the carbon emissions of his travel.

A link to Native Energy and how this works.

http://www.nativeenergy.com/how_works.html

If only all who can afford to do this would.

[Gabi Hayes]

32. to all the Gore/carbon offsetters....the smear machine doesn't CARE AT ALL

about carbon offsets, or anything at all that has to do with reasoned discussion

this question, posed as it was, is just another weapon in their infinite arsenal. it's the only thing they're good at.

nobody's going to remember that Gore didn't fly private to the Oscars, or that, if he did, he offset said travel with carbon offsets

all that matters is that the little seed of "Gore hypocrite" has been said, planted alongside the fully mature plant of "Gore the liar"

[Lone_Star_Dem]

38. He may well have taken a commercial flight

He does so more often than not, so the odds are against them on being correct at all. It would appear they may be grasping at straws? No matter what it's a great way to educate people about carbon offsets and how they work. ;)

[Gabi Hayes]

41. I wish you were right, but most people won't get past the Gore/hypocrite part.

they love the sleazy, slimy, personal attacks. much much much more interesting than oh so boring policies

did you hear what Tucker said happened to MSNBC ratings during the Anna NS orgy?

they quintupled

what more does one need to know?

[Gabi Hayes]

35. they're going to be talking about Gore at the Oscars on Wolf's show.

coming up soon

[Gabi Hayes]

36. talking abou it now.....Bill Schneider: "It's liberal hollywood. they LOVE Gore."

BS: Big question hanging over the ceremony, will he or won't he?

showing clip: "I don't have plans to run for office again."

[Gabi Hayes]

37. that was about it. not as bad as I thought. just the one snark about

liberal hollywood.

[treestar]

39. It is the RW tactic to make everything personal

These are policy questions. Instead of dealing with the question, the freeper tries to make it personal - Edwards has a big house, etc.

As if rich liberals should give all their money to the poor and live at the same level. While they, the RW nutjobs, who are rich, get to live high on the hog and let the rich liberals or the middle class deal with helping the poor.

Al Gore can't save the ozone layer alone, it is a bigger question than just what a few people might be able to do. In their residences, no less.

[Gabi Hayes]

40. again, it's what they do best: Lie and deflect. Deflect and lie. Rinse and repeat.

as a matter of fact, it's the ONLY the thing they're good at, aside from knowing the right palm to grease, the right person to call to get the right thing done.

not that the dems are a whole lot less corrupt; let's be honest here.

[Initech]

42. I thought he said he flew commercial as often as he can.