Watching the Daily Show...I must say, Code Pink and Berkeley look incredibly idiotic

[MadBadger]

I think Rob Riggle just nailed them to a wall about how ridiculous some of their arguments are regarding a marine recruiting station in Berkeley.

Thoughts?

[Fleshdancer]

1. I love Code Pink....

but you're right. The arguments made by members on that segment were silly.

[midnight]

2. I didn't see it, but only can think who cares....... Code pink

does alot of silly stuff to draw attention to the ridiculousness that is going on right now.

[texastoast]

4. Yep, me too

They need to continue to fight the real culprit--war and its proponents. The soldiers are just doing a job. It's always the goldhats to look to for policy decisions. I hope they take it on up where it needs to be.

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[Breeze54]

28. I didn't see the interview so I can't comment on it but

You are pretty much preaching to the choir here. Although, there are
some here that will attack CP for any reason, instead of the issue. :eyes:

Anyway, Welcome to DU. :hi:

[katty]

57. love the pink ladies, but they do crazy..go bezerkeley!

[Breeze54]

71. Cheering for an illegal war is crazier.

:eyes:

And that's what's going on there right now.
The 19% that still want war are there cheering for the fucking war! :grr:

[Skittles]

3. they sometimes have a tendency to make us look bad

just like protesters at abortion clinics make conservatives look bad

[lonestarnot]

18. Maybe it was just Berkeley? Maybe they were loaded?

[trthnd4jstc]

27. It is Berkeley, but I couldn't help but get loaded there. last time I was there.

But, that was a few years ago, before the child, and an ex-wife. Good Times. I love Code Pink by the way.

[Gold Metal Flake]

5. Code Pink interrupting a Code Pink interview was hilarious.

Because it's all about Code Pink. Too bad we didn't see if Code Pink got around to interrupting Code Pink interrupting Code Pink.

[EFerrari]

6. We interrupt each other all the time AND we watch the Daily Show.

lol

[Buzz Clik]

10. Excuse me ... mind if I interrupt? ... anyway....

[EFerrari]

13. Didn't catch that, was talking over you. lol

The first time I met with Code Pink, I came away in awe of their commitment level.

Still am. :)

[stanwyck]

7. I must be schizophrenic

because I support my Marine son (a proud liberal) and Code Pink. I empathize with Code Pink's fervent desire for peace while understanding that there is a need for the military. I wish my son was only deployed to rescue people in times of natural disasters, like Katrina. Or was deployed to help American citizens escape to safety from areas in other countries during times of civil unrest. The good people of Berkeley need to take on the people who have used our Marines so dishonestly. They certainly have a right to their protest. What is wonderful about our country is that we have the Marines and Code Pink. We need them both.

[MadBadger]

8. Its more than a protest though when Berkeley wants to outlaw the Marines from their town

[EFerrari]

12. Yes. That would be a protest with material results. n/t

[Buzz Clik]

11. "We need them both." Yes we do.

:yourock:

[Buzz Clik]

9. Code Pink is an important cog in the machine, but you are 100% correct.

Riggle played it perfectly. "It's too bad there isn't an organization willing to fight for our right to free speech." ouch.

[Freddie Stubbs]

48. How exactly are they important?

Do you really believe that their antics have convinced anyone to change their mind?

[EFerrari]

50. When was the last time you talked to Pelosi about the occupation

or to Conyers about impeachment?

I thought so.

[burythehatchet]

51. No sarcasm smilie?

:shrug:

[Buzz Clik]

53. No. But you can make a similar post and put in a sarcasm smilie. I was serious.

[burythehatchet]

52. If your conscience, hypothetically, did not prevent you from doing something

awful, does that mean you don't need your conscience?

[Buzz Clik]

54. Perhaps it means your perception of "awful" differs from mine.

[LanternWaste]

69. Three people that I'm aware of...

"Do you really believe that their antics have convinced anyone to change their mind?"

Three people that I'm aware of... and that's three more people than many of us have converted.

[madrchsod]

14. they need to get a coherent message

or think before they speak...

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[Oeditpus Rex]

33. The Shaw of Iran?

Wait, wait... I know!







No, no... wait!

[lonestarnot]

17. Who the fuck are you? Who who, who are you.... la la la la

:popcorn:

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[BulletproofLandshark]

22. Intelligent people don't use the phrase "Blabering Fcutars" either.

Whatever the hell that's supposed to mean.

[Bicoastal]

23. So, 5 posts in, and you're being egregiously rude?

Keep in mind that there are other people on this forum besides you.

And for gods sakes, quit saying "fcuk"--"fuck" is a perfectly good word.

[Bicoastal]

19. Um, we really don't mind if you say "fuck" here.

And I don't see what this has to do with banning the Marines from Berkeley, which I think was a mistake on many levels.

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[lonestarnot]

25. Hey fucktard, why are you posting here, shouldn't you be in Iraq?

[Breeze54]

29. I think he's against the USA being in Iraq, don't you?

;)

I think that's what he's yelling about.

I agree with him on that!

The USA should get out of Iraq... NOW!

[lonestarnot]

31. I don't know what he's up to, but it doesn't look like he's very congenial.

:rofl: Oh and if he's trying to say we should get out now then yes, I would have to agree with him.

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[lonestarnot]

38. Brenhin

Tell me do you breed much?

[Bicoastal]

26. Ok, you are either a crazy person or doing an awfully good impression.

Pleeeeeease calm down and stop being strange. We understand what you're trying to say, but there are much more constructive ways to say it.

What you're doing right now, for example, is called "thread hijacking." No one here likes getting jacked. And I would keep the constant stream of insults to a minimum if I were you...

[Greyhound]

39. What Bicoastal said.

If you spend some time looking around before launching into a tirade you will find that there is very little that we are not both aware of, and frequently divided over here.

[NuttyFluffers]

45. no, but i like FCUK; it's a pretty clothes designer and makes for a great shtick

i keep thinking of French Connection United Kingdom and it just leaves me with a smile. i think it should be a sort of handle to set the poster apart. well, before i steal the idea for myself.

but i also have no problems with what berkeley does. they can get away with stirring up stuff that few other cities will ever have the testicular/ovarian fortitude to ever attempt, even if it's only benefit is to draw attention to some fucked up shit. most places like sitting still, being quiet, and playing along while they get gang banged by cronies in power (hmm, i think i can write a script for a power bottom porn video for that...).

berkeley shakes stuff up and gets away with a good deal of it, even if it "looks bad to mainstreet, usa", because of its perception to the nation. if any american city voice could have spoken up berkeley could have and would have been it. therefore, berkeley should have spoken up, and in a directly confrontational way, because no one else had even the temerity to take it to that level. someone's gotta say it's not all right; silence equals consent in the world of power -- which is why silence equals death. you either speak up and get in peoples' faces or you shut up, ship off, and die.

no, there is no third way with power. even gandhi acknowledged power doesn't give to you freely, you must demand from it. if some people in america are still concerned over keeping up appearances over the abuse and needless death of our troops, now that's a travesty worth outrage. and those such people aren't worth any sane person's 'FCUK'ing time. let them think berkeley is crazy for disrupting appearances of normalcy -- fcuk 'em, they're sick SOBs to have such screwed up priorities.

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[KeineAhnung]

34. Link

Checked the comedy central website.. Does anyone have a link to the interview?

[lonestarnot]

36. keep looking who flung dung.

[Breeze54]

42. Try Crooks & Liars? Or maybe You Tube ...maybe it'll take a while

to get that video? :shrug: A couple of hours?

[lonestarnot]

35. Dude find another fucking place. Take it to the CIA, or YOUR policy maker.

War is not a fucking hobby! Here's your grinding machine and look he has a shirt!

[Zookeeper]

37. You're yelling at the wrong people. Go yell at the Freepers.

BTW, the majority of DUers range in age from 35 to 55, as far as I can tell. Maybe some of us were actually around for the Shah of Iran and know more about him than you do.

It's very rude to yell at and insult people. Especially if you're a newbie.

[Breeze54]

40. Umm...most members here are

well over 22 ++++++++. Just sayin'. ;)

But you might want to knock off the insults.

They didn't like the interview. So what?

Perhaps the interview didn't play well.

I don't know. I haven't seen it.

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[Breeze54]

43. "I mean where the hell is the discussion..." Try SEARCH

It works. I'm sure you'll find many discussions about the ME, Iran, the Shah, etc.

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[iamthebandfanman]

46. shhh

theyre watching.

[Breeze54]

47. What organizations do you belong to or support?

BTW? I am awake....

[mojowork_n]

49. All things being equal, if I had a choice between living in Berkley,

or for that matter, Madison, WI, or even Austin, TX,

I'd pick the college town, over say, Sheboygan, WI, or some swampy suburb of Houston.

But I don't have any kids in elementary or middle school, and I'm putting a premium on educational resources/opportunities.

[AngryAmish]

55. One has to admire their quiet dignity

[Breeze54]

56. Yes because being silent about illegal wars is the way to stop them.

:sarcasm:

You fool!

Try listening to this LIVE and see what your fucking silence wrought!! :grr:

Click HERE to LISTEN!: http://warcomeshome.org/



Or are you to chicken to hear the truth?!

[girl gone mad]

58. Okay, I'll put on my flamesuit.

I think it's typical of the kind of lazy liberal intellectualism that occurs in deep blue areas. Many of these people have clearly never been questioned on their opinions, never had to seriously think them through the issues and have never been confronted with alternative viewpoints. They are just going along with the crowd. They are the liberal equivalent of dittoheads.

In my opinion, this is why some of our best and toughest liberal thinkers come from red and purple states. Being in the minority of thinking makes you question and refine your ideas and opinions. You also learn to abandon the frivolous arguments and choose your battles.

[slutticus]

59. I think you nailed it.

I spent about 6 years in Texas prior to moving to California. In Texas if you're a Liberal, it's a constant struggle against all the Conservative BS...but it keeps you sharp. It keeps you informed. Here in Cali.....it's more like "Look how much more Liberal I am than you!!!".

I've seen it myself.

Need proof? Just look at how much more active the Texas DU forum is to the California one.

When you're "surrounded by your own" for so long, you tend to get lazy I think.

[Breeze54]

60. You're both quite judgemental....

:eyes:

Get over yourselves.

[slutticus]

61. Like I said, I've seen it myself.

And your calling us out on being Judgmental makes you such a better liberal than us.

See!

[Breeze54]

63. No... not at all. Those are your words.

I'm sure you're a good liberal.
I'm sure you are challenged on a daily basis.
To say that blue states don't have freepers is naive'.
I live in Mass. and trust me, we have our share.

[slutticus]

67. But that's it....

...I don't feel challenged here. It's not about having no freepers around...it's about outnumbering them 10 to 1. Of course there's going to be freeps everywhere you go. It's just so freakin' easy here (not that I don't appreciate it!).

I guess it's hard to explain unless you've lived in a red state. I'm pretty sure Mass has some freeps, but compared to Texas......

[Breeze54]

70. I lived in NV , near AZ for almost 14 years!

:P

I know what you're talking about.

I just am really tired of people attacking Code Pink for speaking out.

Maybe those girls/young women were over the top a bit but that's just
a couple of exuberant people who are in the middle of a demonstration.
It's not all of CP at all and they're being attacked by two groups of
pro-war rightie, dumbass, 19% bush supporters. Cut the 3 CP's some slack.

[misanthrope]

62. Well, being liberal in Alabama keeps you...

...paranoid, lonely, withdrawn, outnumbered, depressed and doubtful of the future of humanity. Most of the conservatives I encounter can no more be reasoned with than a telephone pole and their viewpoints are mostly enforced by their hatred and fear.

[slutticus]

66. Sorry.

I grew up in Tennessee (actually, pretty close to Huntsville AL) and then moved to Texas.

It ain't easy for sure.


Stay strong.

[lonestarnot]

64. They sure gave Condi hell last week.

:applause:

[devilgrrl]

65. Hey you anti-code pink whiners? What threat are they to the anti-war movement?

What do you care how they go about they're business? And since when do they represent any certain movement other than those who want the war to end?

[LanternWaste]

68. The Peace Activists of the 60's looked awfully damned silly

The Peace Activists of the 60's looked awfully damned silly and idiotic many times, too. However, it seems to me that the movement was successful in raising awareness of the hot issues of the day among other things...