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Winterblues Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-11-08 01:11 PM
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Is solicitation of a prostitute a federal crime?
Edited on Tue Mar-11-08 01:13 PM by Winterblues
Why are the Feds involved in such a minor infraction? Aren't people allowed to spend their own money? What is the deal here with the Feds? What is suspicious about a powerful man taking a thousand dollars from his bank account? Once it was determined that the "crime" was solicitation of a prostitute why wouldn't the Feds then turn it over to the proper authorities?
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theboss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-11-08 01:13 PM
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1. It went across state lines
The end.
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mainegreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-11-08 01:13 PM
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2. Across state lines?
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ljm2002 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-11-08 01:16 PM
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10. Apparently the hooker...
...crossed a state line to meet him at his hotel.

As I see it, that may make the prostitution ring itself liable under the Mann Act (itself somewhat of a travesty). But I don't see how that makes Spitzer liable -- after all, he is just purchasing a service from an organization -- he's the john, not the operator of the service.

That's just my take, of course -- IANAL :-)
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northzax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-11-08 01:19 PM
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13. he arranged for and paid for
her inter-state transportation. (from New York to DC) so that's that.
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ljm2002 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-11-08 02:28 PM
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20. Oh. Well then.
Geez, even more of a chump than I thought.

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rox63 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-11-08 01:14 PM
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3. I believe the federal charge has to do with transporting her across state lines
If he had been doing this only in NY, I don't think there would be federal charges.
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LostinVA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-11-08 01:14 PM
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4. It has to do with transfering money over state lines and having the prostitute cross state lines
The latter is due to the Mann Act. Had this all taken place in New York State, it wouldn't have been a federal matter.
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rucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-11-08 01:25 PM
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17. I thought the mann act,,,
was what happened after he transported her
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rateyes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-11-08 01:30 PM
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18. ROFL...
You're bad. :spank:
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yardwork Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-11-08 01:14 PM
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5. The paperwork says that interstate communication was used - cell phones and email.
The feds get to control anything not specifically assigned to the states. Long distance calls and email go across state lines. Hence, federal involvement.
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ingac70 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-11-08 01:15 PM
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6. Yep. and doing it across state lines...
is a violation of the Mann Act, and that is Federal jurisdiction.
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calico1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-11-08 01:21 PM
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15. Yes, and money laundering.
Plus possibly using his guard detail for these meetings which is inappropriate use of them. So it's not just a simple case of a man going out with a prostitute.
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Fresh_Start Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-11-08 01:15 PM
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7. started with IRS
investigation
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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-11-08 01:15 PM
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8. Up to 20 years in prison.
This looks like what Larry Craig did a parking violation.
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slackmaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-11-08 01:15 PM
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9. No, but transporting a woman across state lines for "immoral purposes" is
Intrastate prostitution per se is legal under federal law.
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GoldieAZ49 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-11-08 01:16 PM
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11. money, phone calls and text messages crossed state lines, also the MAN act?
heard something about that this morning
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annabanana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-11-08 01:23 PM
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16. I think it's just people.... (and it's the "Mann" Act.). . .n/t
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selador Donating Member (706 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-11-08 01:17 PM
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12. no, but...
not unless it occurs on federal property (like a military base) and in that case its still a misdemeanor

the fed crimes are under the mann act, and also the crime of structuring.

regardless, the REAL offense is soliciting a prostitute and it's a minor offense

as for what is suspicious in regards to the money transfers...

that's a bit more complicated. i posted a link to some IRS info on that. suffice it to say banks look for patterns. and when it was seen the money was going to shell corps, that significantly raised the suspicions

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robinlynne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-11-08 01:20 PM
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14. 4000? And the millions of dollars the republicans ferry all over the place?
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selador Donating Member (706 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-11-08 02:02 PM
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19. you are looking at
one discrete transaction

the issue is PATTERNS.

same thing is the case on all sorts of organized crime, money laundering, bribery, and drug cases

act X may not be suspicious

but an aggregate pattern is.

in drug houses for example, a visitor who arrives and leaves 5 minutes later is not suspicious

when it happens 20 times a day, that adds to suspicion.

etc.

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