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Kurovski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-01-07 08:05 AM
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The Case for a Gore Run in 2008 From David Remnick--The New Yorker
"...It is worse than painful to reflect on how much better off the United States and the world would be today if the outcome of the 2000 election had been permitted to correspond with the wishes of the electorate. The attacks of September 11, 2001, would likely not have been avoided, though there is ample evidence, in the 9/11 Commission report and elsewhere, that Gore and his circle were far more alert to the threat of Islamist terrorism than Bush and his. But can anyone seriously doubt that a Gore Administration would have meant, well, an alternate universe, in which, say, American troops were sent on a necessary mission in Afghanistan but not on a mistaken and misbegotten one in Iraq; the fate of the earth, not the fate of oil-company executives, was the priority of the Environmental Protection Agency; civil liberties and diplomacy were subjects of attention rather than of derision; torture found no place or rationale?

In increasing numbers, poll results imply, Americans are disheartened by the real and existing Presidency, and no small number also feel regret that Gore—the winner in 2000 of the popular vote by more than half a million ballots, the almost certain winner of any reasonable or consistent count in the state of Florida—ended up the target of what it is not an exaggeration to call a judicial coup d’état. Justice Antonin Scalia routinely instructs those who question his vote in Bush v. Gore to stop their ceaseless whinging..."


Gore also once said on Jay Leno, regarding the movies: " I have no plans to do a nude scene. I have no intention to do a nude scene. I don’t expect to do a nude scene." :-)


http://www.newyorker.com/talk/content/articles/070305ta_talk_remnick
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rock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-01-07 08:31 AM
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1. "consistent count in the state of Florida"
Let me emphasize that. In several posts I have pointed out that when the news media (ptui!) finally reported their analysis of the Florida vote, they ALL had the headlines "Bush Wins!" Then in the body of the article they explained how Gore, in fact, won. Their spin: If you used inconsistent methods you could make bush* the winner.
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Kurovski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-01-07 08:45 AM
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2. Yep. I seem to recall that the NYT might have been a little different,
I know I saved the front page for some reason. Memory fails.

At any rate, a large plane crash in a residential area of NY or NJ knocked the recount info off the news (or rather, was conveniently ignored by corporate media) as everyone speculated as to whether it was terrorist related or not.
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Botany Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-01-07 09:12 AM
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3. It was coup nothing more nothing less
And look where the Washington Post put this damning piece of evidence.

"DELAND, Fla., Nov. 11 - Something very strange happened on election night to Deborah Tannenbaum,
a Democratic Party official in Volusia County. At 10 p.m., she called the county elections department
and learned that Al Gore was leading George W. Bush 83,000 votes to 62,000. But when she checked
the county's Web site for an update half an hour later, she found a startling development: Gore's count
had dropped by 16,000 votes, while an obscure Socialist candidate had picked up 10,000--all because
of a single precinct with only 600 voters."
- Washington Post Sunday , November 12, 2000 ; Page A22

Pg 22. Liberal media my ass. Although in my state, Ohio, the newspapers
helped in the theft actually calling anybody who questioned the results,
conspiracy dead enders. When people were convicted of fixing the recount in
Cleveland the Columbus paper put it inside the metro section.

The data, #s, and hard evidence is there but "they" will not touch it.

And you can be damn sure that Gore and company would have been all over the
pre 9/11 warnings. All 52 of them.
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-01-07 12:15 PM
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6. BushInc has gotten away with just about everything thanks to media complicity.
Edited on Thu Mar-01-07 12:16 PM by blm
It took a effin' category FIVE hurricane, fer chrissakes. A category five HURRICANE to blow back the corpmedia spin protecting BushInc. all these years.
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catgirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-01-07 09:32 AM
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4. Great article

It is worse than painful to reflect on how much better the US and
the world would be today. k&r
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Kurovski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-01-07 12:10 PM
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5. For many people
...it is real agony.
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Kurovski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-01-07 10:25 PM
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7. I'm kicking my own thread.
Tough toenails. :-)
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scarletwoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-01-07 10:29 PM
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8. Great article! k & r (nt -- because I'm too tired to write anything, sorry)
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Kurovski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-01-07 11:00 PM
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9. "K&R" is what makes up 50% of my posts!
:-) Thanks for checking in, and get some rest!
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RestoreGore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-02-07 09:29 AM
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10. But Mr. Gore stated it is not about the past
Edited on Fri Mar-02-07 09:30 AM by RestoreGore
He didn't run in 2004 because he stated he didn't want it being about 2000. Why would that change now?
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Kurovski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-03-07 05:44 PM
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11. Ask him.
He still hasn't said that he's definitely not running.
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SammyWinstonJack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-03-07 05:47 PM
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12. Or did someone ask him not too run? Because he was ready to make another run and suddenly he wasn't
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