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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-01-07 09:07 AM
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Why aren't these children in SCHOOL!!!!?!??!!


Iraqi children walk passed wrecked cars at the site of a car bomb attack in Baghdad. Bombers killed 18 Iraqi women and children on Tuesday as a relentless bombing spree snuffed out dozens more lives and a US spy chief acknowledged that the conflict amounts to "civil war."(AFP/Ahmad al-Rubaye)




A teacher watches over students taking their final exams in the engineering discipline of Baghdad University in 2005. University student numbers have increased to around 380,000, but at least 195 university professors have been killed and another 60 kidnapped since the sectarian violence erupted a year ago.(AFP/File/Ali al-Saadi)


A man picks up plastic containers at the Kabab Abu Ali restaurant in Central Baghdad, Iraq, Tuesday, Feb. 27, 2007, after it was struck by a bomb. A bomb left in a plastic bag exploded during the busy lunch hour, killing at least three people and injuring 13, police said. (AP Photo/Samir Mizban)



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dogday Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-01-07 09:10 AM
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1. Because their parents are afraid to let them
stray too far from home...... Nobody is safe, but it is safer to stay home these days. Also if their school is built like the other buildings in Iraq, there is probably sewage dripping from the light fixture....
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Horse with no Name Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-01-07 09:23 AM
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12. Yeah and now it is much safer to stay home and wait for
American soldiers to kick your front door in looking for "insurgents".
Why aren't pictures like this on the news every single night?
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NMMNG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-02-07 03:59 AM
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33. You Liberals, only wanting to show the bad news.
:sarcasm:
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izzie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-01-07 09:12 AM
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2. Maybe no teachers or schools?
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rebel with a cause Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-01-07 11:53 AM
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28. Isn't one of the bush girls a teacher?
Perhaps she should be sent over there to teach the children her father has caused to be in this horror.
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izzie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-01-07 04:43 PM
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29. It is all madness. I do not think Bush can think like every day
people. I find some days it makes me feel so sad. I am not sure when this country lost the way.
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rebel with a cause Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-01-07 05:56 PM
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30. Looking at our history, I don't know if it ever really knew the way.
Edited on Thu Mar-01-07 06:11 PM by rebel with a cause
But when it lost all sense of reality is something else. I guess it was in 2000, when we saw an election stolen and sat helplessly by as it happened. That was when the world began to move into a world of a surreal existence for many of us.

In 2004 it seemed we could find an exit and get back to normalcy, but on election day I woke up an knew that it would not happen. I worked in the democratic campaign office in my area that day, and when I told people what I felt, one woman cried because she was so afraid her sons would end up drafted and sent off to this unnecessary war. I lied to her and told her I was probably wrong, when I knew I was not. Obama, I am from Illinois, was the only thing that kept me going. He was what we put all our hope in.

I try to keep hope these days, wanting this world not to be like this when I die. I don't know that it won't be but sometimes hope is all you have to keep you going, so I will go on hoping until the end although I have no hope.

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izzie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-02-07 03:56 AM
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32. Funny I knew Bush would win in 2004. I made a joke about the signs
to my friends to why I was sure he would win. Kerry vs. Bush signs and what happened to them. I just hate to see what has happened to my country under this Bush.
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rebel with a cause Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-02-07 08:28 AM
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34. For me it is much similar.
Edited on Fri Mar-02-07 08:28 AM by rebel with a cause
Sometimes things just come to me and I just know them to be true. It is like pulling knowledge out of the air. Strange thing, but I have always been able to do it even as a child. My mother called me a "dreamer of dreams,a seer of visions". She said her mother had been like that also, but she had died before I was born so I never knew her.
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4morewars Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-01-07 09:14 AM
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3. Why aren't bush and cheney in prison cells ?
I'm sick of this shit.

We need to throw the entire bunch in jail cells while we sort out the mess they created.
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-01-07 09:16 AM
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4. 'Cause schools make good targets, as has been witnessed time and again? nt
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havocmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-01-07 09:17 AM
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5. Sadly, they ARE in school. The school bush built to assure terrorists in coming years.
Edited on Thu Mar-01-07 09:17 AM by havocmom
War is good for the bottom line of bush/cheney cronies.

People, ours/their's, are just a means to an end and the end is making money from death.

Turning Blood Into Gold While Offering Jingo-ism -
bushco marches on!
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Beausoir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-01-07 09:19 AM
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9. Wow. How very right you are.
You just scared me.
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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-01-07 09:23 AM
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11. Risk and reward
the more the risk the more the reward.

Great for the bottom line plus you don't really have all those messy "turnover" costs when they don't just cease to work for you but cease to exist. Hell with some properly financed janitor's insurance it is a WIN-WIN as they say.
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havocmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-01-07 09:26 AM
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13. You got it.
To them, 'the troops' are just cogs in the money printing machines. Parts is parts. Toss 'em when they start costing.

Meanwhile, lay the groundwork for assured future arms sales. Keep that big ol machine greased.
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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-01-07 09:38 AM
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18. Parts is parts
Free labor is the bestest ever for the bottom line.

The initial set costs were far to prohibitive (laser points at powerpoint presentation) so we outsourced it through our tax department.
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Virginia Dare Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-01-07 09:17 AM
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6. The schools have all been bombed...
because there were alleged "insurgents" in the area...:cry:
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LibDemAlways Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-01-07 09:18 AM
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7. Apparently we've succeeded in "liberating" Iraqi
children from their classrooms, Iraqi university students from their studies, Iraqi teachers from their jobs, Iraqi drivers from their cars, Iraqi restaurant patrons from their meals, and hundreds of thousands of Iraqi citizens from their lives. Aren't you proud?:sarcasm:
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Beausoir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-01-07 09:18 AM
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8. I was expecting pics of Fred Phelps' spawn.
NBC Nightly News had a piece on last night about a 5 year old Iraqi girl who had a mortar shell land right next to her. Blew off her leg, mangled her arm. Army doctors saved her, but there is no where to release her to. There are NO hospitals in Iraq that would be able to sustain the level of care she will need. So, she was airlifted to the U.S.

No hospitals.

As I watched that piece, I don't think I have ever felt more hatred in my heart toward that disgusting filthy monkey who squats in the White House.
Goddamn him to hell for what he has done to the children of this world.

May he get what he deserves someday.
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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-01-07 09:21 AM
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10. "incompetent, foolish, dubious,"

http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20070301/pl_afp/usiraqpolitics_070301003657
WASHINGTON (AFP) - The US policy in Iraq following the 2003 invasion was "incompetent, foolish, dubious," the new US coordinator for Iraq's economic development said Wednesday.

Ambassador Timothy Carney told NPR radio that the US policy to exclude Iraqis from governing the country in the two years following the invasion was "an enormous foolishness" which contributed to the deterioration of security and lengthened the conflict in the country.

"We don't need to go into detail on that, but I think words such as incompetent, foolish, dubious in all of its aspects are the most charitable way to look at that period," he said.

The major failing of policy and operations in 2003 was the failure to invite Iraqis into our councils. We actually thought we could govern this country," he told NPR.

"It was enormously costly in terms of time, and consequently in terms of our and Iraqi blood and the blood of many of our allies."
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bdamomma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-01-07 09:33 AM
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17. I watched it also and my heart just dropped how many more
are like that beautiful little girl her life will never be the same. God help us for what we are doing to the Iraqi people, we invaded their country.................:cry:
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sinkingfeeling Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-01-07 09:27 AM
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14. Because less than 1/3 of school age children in Iraq are able to attend school because of
Bush's Eternal War on the World.
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devilgrrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-01-07 09:29 AM
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15. They're not in school because liberals are keeping GAWD out of the classroom
:sarcasm:
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bdamomma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-01-07 09:30 AM
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16. probably no schools to go to since we are bombing the sh$t
out of them, this is so wrong, this war must stop.
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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-01-07 09:39 AM
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19. That is really a shame
'cause the school was just freshly painted and everything
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Lasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-01-07 09:59 AM
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20. Hey, why does the liberal media focus on the negative stuff?
There's plenty of happy stories about real progress. Why are the reporters so obsessed about cars and people being blown up every day and the Baghdad sewers getting clogged up because so many bodies have been dumped in? I'm pretty sure I heard about a school being painted somewhere. Why don't those liberal reporters go over there and take a picture of the paint drying? That's the real story that needs to be covered. If it was safe for anyone to leave the green zone. But don't start asking where all the money's been going. Just cover the progress. And don't mention those pesky statistics that might confuse people into thinking things were better before we invaded. 911 changed everything. And stay the course. We've turned the corner. Support the troops. Mission accomplished. Git 'er done. Keep on truckin'. It's two mints in one. Milk does a body good.
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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-01-07 10:09 AM
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23. ?
Are the sewers really cloggin with bodies? I must have missed that story.
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Lasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-01-07 10:50 AM
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24. From about a year ago.
They had to weld the sewer covers down to prevent so many bodies from being dumped in and clogging up the sewage systems.

The situation is so bad that in some areas of Baghdad, such as Sadr City, US soldiers had to weld down sewer covers to prevent bodies from being dumped. There are so many bodies being dumped around the city that it has become a real problem of waste management..."

http://www.marxist.com/iraq-us-british-imperialism-defeat071106.htm


Fishermen used to haul bodies out of the river but stopped doing that when there got to be so many. They said there wouldn't be any time left to catch fish. The sectarian violence is terrible.

I remember this being covered but there doesn't seem to be much in the land of Google now.
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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-01-07 10:56 AM
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25. Wow
This reminds me of what John Stewart wrote in "America, the book"

About the Age of Enlightenment

"It was characterized by the creation of ideas such as 'Hey maybe we shouldn't throw the dead bodies in the drinking water'"

or something like that.

Life is a circle-The Arabs and Persians were the ones (during the Crusades) one basically began the Age of Enlightenment in Europe.

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Lasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-01-07 11:33 AM
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27. Yes, life is a circle. I'm a firm believer in that, underpants.
Horrible things going on in Iraq. They're just rounding up people who happen to have the wrong ethnicity. After they torture them they are killed. Bodies are being found stacked like cordwood.

And the sickest thing is, this seems to be exactly what the neocons wanted - total chaos, to be used as a matrix to impose their control on the world.
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Buzz Clik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-02-07 08:39 AM
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36. ^^^^ Excellent post by a real American! n/t
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Lasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-02-07 10:15 AM
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37. Why thank you Buzz
My rants are greatly inferior to Husb2Sparkly's in both quantity and quality but sometimes I just can't help myself.

Lasher
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zbdent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-01-07 09:59 AM
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21. ever see a school dodge an IED?
Kinda hard ... they move glacially slow ...

any structure put up by the Americans have got to be a huge target ...
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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-01-07 10:08 AM
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22. I think is what Neal Boortz meant
when he said that the teacher's unions were more dangerous that alQaeda

They keep demanding on these fixed high maintenance cost structures in which to work.
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Tsiyu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-01-07 11:24 AM
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26. NCLU


No Child Left Unscathed



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rebel with a cause Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-01-07 06:08 PM
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31. "Insurgents/terrorist" of the future
trained to hate today by the good old USA. Oh but that is too negative. We have liberated them from a dictator and their lives from the dullness of a normalcy. Yea, throw flowers at our feet, we are the conquering heroes. :applause: :cry:
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Buzz Clik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-02-07 08:38 AM
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35. you people apparently have not been paying attention to all the good news out of Iraq.
Come on! Do you really think that we've poured hundreds of billions of dollars and thousands of lives and accomplished nothing?

On the contrary -- we have rebuilt many of the schools we destroyed in the bombing. We've restored power in some areas to some fraction of the amount delivered prior to the invasion ... at least we try to keep ahead of the terrorists who blow up critical aspects of the infrastructure.

If you folks would like to read nothing but good news, I have a source just for you.
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