Libby jury asks for different type of flip chart paper

[DeepModem Mom]

CNN: Thursday, March 01, 2007
Libby trial jury quibbles over flip-chart paper

WASHINGTON (CNN) -- The jury in the Scooter Libby trial has asked for a particular type of flip chart paper, after eschewing the kind the government had offered, according to a source on the defense team.

"They want the kind they can stick to the wall," the source told CNN Thursday, holding up an example of the poster-sized paper and sticking it to the marble walls of the hallway between the defense suite and the jury room.

The papers have adhesive in the upper corners similar to Post-It notes. After the jury made the request, both the prosecution and defense came up with such presentation pads, typically arrayed from an easel, flip-chart style.

http://www.cnn.com/POLITICS/blogs/politicalticker/2007/03/libby-trial-jury-quibbles-over-flip.html

[myrna minx]

1. They must be making one hell of a flow chart.

This is a very good sign.

[DeepModem Mom]

4. Never thought this would be nominated for Greatest! But you're right --

could be significant!

[myrna minx]

8. WHile others mock them, I see these jurors taking their charge very seriously.

A mere flip chart is obviously not cutting it, therefore they need to expand their flow chart/possible time line. While obviously I don't know, I'm only speculating, I'm imagining a time line that is taking over a wall. I think this is very significant and interesting.

[Tin Man]

18. ditto - very good sign.

The more the jury focuses on the facts presented during the courtroom procedings, the more likely they'll return conviction(s) for Libby.

[myrna minx]

29. Exactly.

The facts as a stand alone work against Libby. The only thing the defense had going for them was Wells' emotional breakdown at closing, and that (as reported) seemed rather embarrassing. I think we're going to have a conviction.

[radfringe]

2. I thought they were sent home for the day....??????

oh well --- have they asked for highlighters or markers in assorted colors yet?

[myrna minx]

5. They were sent home at the end of yesterday.

They are back deliberating today.

[rodeodance]

3. What seems so so so Obvious to me---obviously is not to the jurors! dang

[LSdemocrat]

9. Also keep in mind, they're supposed to avoid all news reports on the trial

That may complicate matters somewhat for the jury.

[myrna minx]

14. Well, we have the benefit of legal analysis and editorials,

have ruminated about all of the possibilities through out these last 3.5 years, while, these jurors have only heard the facts as stated in the trial. Honestly, if it wasn't for the fantastic analysis of H2O man and the other Plameologists here, I don't think I would understand the whole Libby picture, nor would I understand the whole cast of characters involved. I think they are taking their time, methodically discussing a time line, etc, something that I have had the opportunity to mull over for 3.5 years. I'm still positive about the outcome. It's frustrating to us, I know, because we've been following this for a long time, but I just think they are being thorough, imho, something that we would hope any jury would do.

[Norquist Nemesis]

21. It almost sounds like they're going through the whole task, each time

for each count. They sent a question out about Q3, then a note of 'thanks, but no thanks'. Hopefully, they're just minding their Ps and Qs on the counts and not trying to solve the question they weren't asked to deliberate: Who dunnit?

[rodeodance]

6. We are a culture of visual learners.

[Supersedeas]

28. so will they be looking for video evidence that Libby lied under oath??

[jsamuel]

7. at least it seems they are taking their assignment seriously

unlike the T-shirt thing... which still bothers me... especially since the only one not wearing one got kicked out...

[dkofos]

10. To many paper cuts I guess

[Buzz Clik]

11. Jesu Cristo. The jury chair must be a business major.

[Solo_in_MD]

13. Or an engineer

[WinkyDink]

35. Or an educator (principals love flow charts).

[rudy23]

12. I see them trying to spell it out for the lone wingnut holdout nt

[unpossibles]

15. HAHA... sad, but probably true

except I can't decide it that holdout is more likely to be actually clueless or just pretending to be.

[The Backlash Cometh]

16. Send them round postem notes so they can stick them to the wall and

connect the dots.

[babylonsister]

17. My theory: no one wants to go back to work. nt

[Norquist Nemesis]

19. So, Scooter didn't hand over his duct tape and tell them to deal with it?

:evilgrin: :evilgrin: :evilgrin: :evilgrin:

*sigh* I had a 'feeling' today would be the day they returned a verdict...late in the day, but really thought it would be today. I'll try to keep my hourly check-in on the cables for LIVE! and BREAKING NEWS!, but by the time 3pm rolls around I may have to chalk up my gut feeling to hopeful dreaming. :(

[radfringe]

20. dumb question....

with these types of charges - does the verdict have to be unanimous or just a majority?

[Norquist Nemesis]

22. Not absolutely positive, but pretty sure it has to be unanimous

I've heard several 'journalists' speak of the defense only needing one juror. :shrug:

[Jacobin]

31. You're right

In a criminal trial the jury must be unanimous and if not, its a hung jury

[kestrel91316]

23. I can't handle this excitement.

[quiet.american]

24. I'm amazed Libby's attorney actually put up enough of an argument to warrant all this analysis

From everything I'd read, it sounded like he'd provided little defense and the evidence in the case was very solid. Guess not.

[Blackhatjack]

25. My guess is they are creating 'checklists' for each element of each crime charged....

...and putting the evidence to support each element on the wall beside each checklist.

As the jury agrees on each element it is checked off.

Keeps everyone apprised of what is left to agree upon, and what they are hopelessly hung about.

[Nimrod2005]

26. After all of this, they better come up with solution to Iraq and all of the ME problems!!!

WTF are they doing?

[Annces]

27. I hope there are a few good apples on that jury

And not a group of "can't make up my mind" people.

[Jacobin]

32. All it takes is one to vote 'not guilty' and its a hung jury

and then Fitz has to decide whether to re-try him.

:-(

[Missy Vixen]

30. Wheee! It's the timeline! n/t

[meldroc]

33. The cynic in me says

it's an all-out campaign by ten of the eleven remaining jurors, putting together this huge, detailed timeline, to spell out in huge detail why they should convict, to that Moonie Times wingnut who's trying to hang the jury.

[ArbustoBuster]

34. I am very proud of these eleven* anonymous Americans.

They're taking their task as a jury very seriously, and they seem to be both quite intelligent and working extremely hard.

* The twelfth juror still hasn't been replaced, right?

[myrna minx]

36. You are correct that there are 11 jurors.

The 12th juror has not been replaced.