Democratic Underground Latest Greatest Lobby Journals Search Options Help Login
Google

Coulter: Stalin and Hitler were liberals.

Printer-friendly format Printer-friendly format
Printer-friendly format Email this thread to a friend
Printer-friendly format Bookmark this thread
This topic is archived.
Home » Discuss » Archives » General Discussion (1/22-2007 thru 12/14/2010) Donate to DU
 
11 Bravo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-01-07 01:23 PM
Original message
Coulter: Stalin and Hitler were liberals.
http://www.anncoulter.com

Dear God, is there a sentient being on the planet who can take this bony-ass, deranged, succubus seriously?
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
Monkeyman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-01-07 01:23 PM
Response to Original message
1. So are those your real Feelings LOL
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
RedStateShame Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-01-07 01:25 PM
Response to Original message
2. Right. And Ann Coulter's a woman.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
B Calm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-03-07 07:17 AM
Response to Reply #2
117. I wish she would take that Drag Queen costume off, and get help!
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Tierra_y_Libertad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-01-07 01:27 PM
Response to Original message
3. Yeah. And, Ronald Reagan and Shrub are noted intellectuals.
Not to mention the well known scholar of history Ann Coulter.

Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
BayCityProgressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-01-07 01:29 PM
Response to Reply #3
6. Stalin was
a authoritarian leftist and Hitler was a facsist. She should get her ideologies straight. Liberalism has nothing in common with these trends.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
MUAD_DIB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-01-07 01:48 PM
Response to Reply #6
21. When has Ann left facts stand in the way of her own agenda.

Her ideas are certainly not contaminated by the truth.

Stalin a liberal? Hitler a liberal? That eugenics program of he Nazis was sure Berkley style now wasn't it?


:rofl:
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Javaman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-02-07 10:40 AM
Response to Reply #21
62. "Pffft. You can prove anything with facts" - Homer Simpson nt
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
hfojvt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-01-07 02:31 PM
Response to Reply #6
31. I have known at least one conservative who believed what she wrote
and he was an economics graduate student (and also a descendant of German nobility). I would say that Stalin was far more authoritarian than he was 'left'. He did more to discredit the word socialism than anyone else. However, this person pointed out that Nazi was short of Nationionale Socializt (or whatever the spelling is auf Deutsch) and that German war economics was the same model that Stalinist Russia used as far as national planning. So in one sense both Stalin and Hitler did pretend to be on the left.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Cosmocat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-02-07 01:12 PM
Response to Reply #31
102. Dude ...
Give them time ... They successfully have rewritten history 100 different ways now ...

Reagan has been remade into one of our greatest presidents because they have said it enough, give them time ... If they want, the MSM will be calling Stalin and Hitler liberals within a year if Coulter is leading the charge on this ...
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Ganja Ninja Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-02-07 09:26 AM
Response to Reply #3
54. and Dick Cheney is a warm hearted human being. n/t
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
yurbud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-02-07 01:08 PM
Response to Reply #3
98. the should establish an Ann Coulter chair of history at Bob Jones University
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Nikki Stone1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-02-07 04:23 PM
Response to Reply #98
107. Actually, they should just make her into a chair
Make those bones useful.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
yurbud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-02-07 04:33 PM
Response to Reply #107
110. her chin and adam's apple would dig into the back of your head.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Nikki Stone1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-02-07 04:35 PM
Response to Reply #110
111. That's what the power saw is for
:)
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
yurbud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-02-07 08:54 PM
Response to Reply #111
114. oy! if Ann was in HOSTEL, all the customers would have dropped their chainsaws and ran away
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Kelly Rupert Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-01-07 01:28 PM
Response to Original message
4. Stalin? Sure. Hitler? Not so much.
Edited on Thu Mar-01-07 01:31 PM by Kelly Rupert
You could make a case that Stalin was a liberal, but it would require a rather broad definition, and certainly has no applicability to modern American liberalism, much as Hitler has little in common with modern American conservativism.

Ah well. Coulter's a brilliant comedian; I'm surprised he's managed to convince so much of America that he's actually a conservative female pundit. I prefer to read his stuff as a hyper-Colbert.



(note: i do not actually believe this.)
(note: well, sorta.)
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
rman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-01-07 02:16 PM
Response to Reply #4
26. "In 1933, worker's real earnings sank to about one-tenth of the 1926 level"

Joseph Stalin
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joseph_Stalin#Stalin_and_changes_in_Soviet_society

...
The Russian Civil War and wartime communism had a devastating effect on the country's economy. Industrial output in 1922 was 13% of that in 1914. A recovery followed under the New Economic Policy, which allowed a degree of market flexibility within the context of socialism.

Under Stalin's direction, this was replaced by a system of centrally ordained "Five-Year Plans" in the late 1920s. These called for a highly ambitious program of state-guided crash industrialization and the collectivization of agriculture.

With no seed capital, little international trade, and virtually no modern infrastructure, Stalin's government financed industrialization by both restraining consumption on the part of ordinary Soviet citizens, to ensure that capital went for re-investment into industry, and by ruthless extraction of wealth from the kulaks.

In 1933, worker's real earnings sank to about one-tenth of the 1926 level. There was also use of the unpaid labor of both common and political prisoners in labor camps and the frequent "mobilization" of communists and Komsomol members for various construction projects. The Soviet Union also made use of foreign experts, e.g. British engineer Stephen Adams, to instruct their workers and improve their manufacturing processes.

---

That's not very liberal, is it.





Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Solo_in_MD Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-01-07 03:02 PM
Response to Reply #4
35. Stalin claimed to be a Communist, and Hitler a Socialist so one could argue they were leftists
and therefore liberals. However, their actions showed a different vision........
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Hippo_Tron Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-01-07 04:21 PM
Response to Reply #35
44. Hitler incorporated the "socialist" element in name that he could win more votes
If there's anything that Hitler despised (besides Jews), it was politics and political parties that were even remotely left of center.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
yurbud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-02-07 12:56 PM
Response to Reply #44
94. like the Federalist Society. They were originally going to be called the anti-Federalist Society...
but thought it sounded too negative.

So they changed the name even though it gave the opposite impression of their goals.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
manic expression Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-02-07 01:00 PM
Response to Reply #94
95. Not quite if you ask me
"National Socialism" is an entity all on its own. It's not "Socialism on a National Scale", it's "National Socialism".

By the way, I have trouble calling it an actual ideology, because in the end, it's just a pile of racist, bigoted and hateful garbage with a reactionary mindset. The "pinnacle" of National Socialist "thought" is just some ramblings that Hitler wrote while in prison.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
yurbud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-02-07 01:07 PM
Response to Reply #95
97. I didn't say it was socialism at all. Just that they picked the name for effect
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
manic expression Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-02-07 01:09 PM
Response to Reply #97
101. Maybe
but I doubt they were targeting socialist sympathizers, which is just my historical opinion.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
rman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-02-07 09:23 AM
Response to Reply #35
53. So, labels trump practice?
What is it that makes a person's political affiliation - the labels they or other put on them, or the reality of their policies?

If it is the former and not the latter, then labels don't mean shit and should subsequently be ignored.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
TheBaldyMan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-02-07 09:59 AM
Response to Reply #35
58. no you can't argue left means liberal, there are legions of left-wing
totalitarians (Mao, Stalin, Pol Pot) just as many as the right-wing totalitarians (Hitler, Mussolini, Franco).

Ann omits this distinction from her screed. Either that or she is to the right of Adolf Hitler - not that hard to imagine on reflection.

Liberals are anything but totalitarian, they consider individual liberity from central control as a central tenet of their politics. To claim anything else suggests that you don't grasp the concept of liberal.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
manic expression Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-02-07 12:32 PM
Response to Reply #58
81. Right
Look, I'm basically a Leninist and I can tell you that my ideology has nothing to do with liberalism. Liberalism has no ideological connection with communism, that is a fact.

Anyone who says "well, communism has a connection to liberalism" has their head FIRMLY up their ass. They need to read a book (preferably contrasting Locke and Mill to Marx and Lenin).
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
TheBaldyMan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-02-07 12:40 PM
Response to Reply #81
85. all power to the soviets :clenched fist salute:
from an anarcho-syndicalist.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
manic expression Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-02-07 12:47 PM
Response to Reply #85
88. :clenched fist salute:
I've worked with a lot of anarchists, most of the anarcho-syndicalists, and I have a ton of respect for the movement.

Solidarity always! To the final victory!
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
manic expression Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-02-07 12:35 PM
Response to Reply #35
82. That's just not true
Stalin claimed to be a Marxist-Leninist. Hitler was a National Socialist (which means White Nationalism, which means white supremacism).

Those two figures have NOT A SINGLE ideological connection.

Furthermore, there is not a single connection between their ideologies and liberalism. Not a single shred of a single connection.

Can we PLEASE stop perpetuating the myth that these ideologies have any logical connection? It's just untrue.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
InvisibleTouch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-01-07 01:29 PM
Response to Original message
5. I think the term "criminally insane"...
...describes this, er, "person."

Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Blue-Jay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-01-07 01:30 PM
Response to Original message
7. and McCarthy was a hero, blah blah blah....
It's unlike me to wish ill on people, but.....
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
no_hypocrisy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-01-07 01:30 PM
Response to Original message
8. Compared to Dick Cheney? Ann might have been the closer to
Truth than usual.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
htuttle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-01-07 01:46 PM
Response to Reply #8
19. I was about to make that same point
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Hippo_Tron Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-01-07 01:31 PM
Response to Original message
9. Umm, which party represented those who did business with the Nazis until it was illegal (and after)?
Edited on Thu Mar-01-07 01:31 PM by Hippo_Tron
If Coulter had been around in the 40's she would've been raving about how Hitler was a vital ally in the fight against communism.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
T Wolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-01-07 01:32 PM
Response to Reply #9
11. And after it was illegal. Remember Grandpa Prescott. nt
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Hippo_Tron Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-01-07 04:14 PM
Response to Reply #11
42. Yea I remembered that hence I included (and after)
Grandpa Prescott couldn't let little things like genocide get in the way of profit.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
AX10 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-01-07 01:32 PM
Response to Original message
10. Hitler was a right wing authoritarian and Stalin a left wing authoritarian.
One is as bad as the other. Koulter is an authoritarian too. Authoritarians by their nature hate liberalism and democracy.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
toddaa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-01-07 01:33 PM
Response to Original message
12. Ann Coulter is a liberal
So is Rush Limbaugh and Sean Hannity.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
leveymg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-01-07 01:36 PM
Response to Original message
13. Right up there with Adlai Stevenson & Eleanor Roosevelt - two of history's worst monsters.
Edited on Thu Mar-01-07 01:37 PM by leveymg
L-I-B-E-R-A-L MONSTERS





Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Zavulon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-01-07 01:39 PM
Response to Original message
14. Even if she had a shread of credibility before that,
she'd have lost it by now. Thing is, drivel like that helps our side. It's shit like that which makes "cinsider the source" one of the most valuable phrases in use today.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Richard D Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-01-07 01:39 PM
Response to Original message
15. Unfortunately
a lot of people take her seriously. Their sentience however is highly debatable. Well, not really debatable.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
treestar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-01-07 01:40 PM
Response to Original message
16. Actually, they were conservatives, Mann
They built camps for people who disagreed, thrived on war, liked to imprison people without trial, torture people, liked having enemies to fight and wanted to be in control of everyone and everything. They wanted to use force to win and not have to convince anyone.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Norquist Nemesis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-01-07 01:43 PM
Response to Original message
17. Princess Polemic strikes again
I'd bet she has a new book coming out and is trying to get a spot on Hardball.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
formerrepuke Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-01-07 01:43 PM
Response to Original message
18. The Nazis were the 'national socialist' party.. therefore= liberal (according to RWers)..and
Stalin was a commie. Ergo= Both were liberals. Right-wing logic is all black and white; so logical even a moron can understand it.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
T_i_B Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-01-07 01:50 PM
Response to Reply #18
23. I've heard freepers spout that argument many a time
It's an argument that owes everything to theory, (and highly dubious theory at that) and nothing whatsoever to reality.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Beausoleil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-01-07 02:15 PM
Response to Reply #18
25. Well, the Democratic People's Republic of Korea
really is a democratic republic, isn't it?
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Solo_in_MD Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-01-07 04:30 PM
Response to Reply #25
45. Is any country with the term "democratic republic" or "peoples republic" ever a democracy?
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Beausoleil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-01-07 04:39 PM
Response to Reply #45
46. Only as much as
the National Socialist German Workers' Party was a liberal party because it had the words "Socialist" and "Workers'" in it.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
TheBaldyMan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-02-07 10:11 AM
Response to Reply #46
61. the NSDAP was really a party within a party
shortly after becoming Fuhrer, Adolf purged the party of all left wing elements.

Paradoxically, some of the early inmates of concentration camps were left-wing Nazis, ie the ones that put the socialist into national socialist. Hitler used this pre-existing political organisation as a leg-up to political power then turned on those that he didn't agree with, remaking the party to his own liking.

In the early days the nazis wouldn't have existed if they hadn't promoted socialist policies. They co-operated with communist party members in the very early days organising rent strikes in poor areas among other things.

Once dictatorship was in place Hitler had no further need or desire to co-habit with left wingers.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
manic expression Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-02-07 12:37 PM
Response to Reply #45
83. Depends
Cuba is democratic, the USSR was democratic until 1928.

However, "democratic" to a liberal is completely different than what a communist would see as "democratic".
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
T_i_B Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-01-07 01:48 PM
Response to Original message
20. hahahahahahaha
There are more reputable scientists defending astrology than defending "global warming,"

Exactly how many "reputable scientists" did you poll for that one Ann?

Anyway, here's the offending paragraph.

Liberals have always had a thing about eliminating humans. Stalin wanted to eliminate the kulaks and Ukranians, vegetarian atheist Adolf Hitler wanted to eliminate the Jews, Planned Parenthood founder Margaret Sanger wanted to eliminate poor blacks, DDT opponent Rachel Carson wanted to eliminate Africans (introduction to her book "Silent Spring" written by ... Al Gore!), and population-control guru Paul Ehrlich wants to eliminate all humans.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Beausoleil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-01-07 02:19 PM
Response to Reply #20
28. And Ann Coulter wants to exterminate all liberals!
Therefore, she must be a liberal!
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
TheBaldyMan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-02-07 12:55 PM
Response to Reply #20
92. *snort* "vegetarian atheist Adolf Hitler" - now that's funny RW humour
You know the weird thing is she claims to believe everything says says and writes. Either she's a comic genius or the dumbest blonde in Christendom.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Mad_Dem_X Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-02-07 04:39 PM
Response to Reply #20
112. And where is all her proof for these claims?
I love how these nutjobs feel that they can just right anything that comes into their sick little minds, and it will be accepted as fact.:crazy:
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
T_i_B Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-03-07 04:45 AM
Response to Reply #112
115. Where is Ann Coulter's proof?
In a small dark room somewhere where she keeps all those "reputable scientists" who deny climate change.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
POAS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-01-07 01:49 PM
Response to Original message
22. I smell a worst person nomination coming!
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
sinkingfeeling Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-01-07 02:14 PM
Response to Original message
24. Ann, you ignorant sluth, can't you figure out your right from the left?
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
ComerPerro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-01-07 02:17 PM
Response to Original message
27. This is nothing new, RWers have been saying this since the 1940s
Ironic, though, because if Hitler was such a huge liberal, why did so many American conservatives in the 1930s support him and approve of his example?
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
marmar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-01-07 02:23 PM
Response to Original message
29. I think Annthrax's jackboots are tied too tight....
:scared:
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
scarface2004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-01-07 02:25 PM
Response to Original message
30. not exactly...they were flaming wine sipping san francisco
bleeding heart limousine liberals!!! get it right dammit!!
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
HCE SuiGeneris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-01-07 02:32 PM
Response to Original message
32. Are her talons growing? My F'n gawd this is hideous!


And this is an "official" photo of her hand/claw/talon. :puke:
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Madspirit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-01-07 02:34 PM
Response to Original message
33. This is common
You should go lurk at her forum for a while. I joined it after the midterms because I wanted to see their little pointed heads spinning in circles. I got booted as Madspirit but have rejoined under a different ID because I am collecting idiot quotes from them for my Bash Ann Website.

They see everything upside down and backwards. They are always calling Hitler a liberal and saying it's liberals who are racist and liberals who are really THE Haters. They are the most bizarre group of people I have ever witnessed and I live in a state with a still active Klan. It's unreal.
Lee
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
libnnc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-01-07 02:37 PM
Response to Original message
34. I'm beginning to think she's some kind of wacked-out performance artist
How can she be for real?

She's either completely insane or is testing to see how far she can go before the media stops taking her seriously.

I mean really...she's just babbling now.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Kelvin Mace Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-01-07 03:05 PM
Response to Original message
36. You know, Ann should sue
the doctor who did here transgender surgery. He really botched it.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
prolesunited Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-01-07 03:06 PM
Response to Original message
37. Wow, this is more unhinged than her usual rants.
For those of you not masochistic enough to look:

There are more reputable scientists defending astrology than defending "global warming," but liberals simply announce that the debate has been resolved in their favor and demand that we shut down all production.


The whole U.S. will look like Amagansett, with no one living in it except their even-tempered maids (for "diversity"), themselves and their coterie (all, presumably, living in solar-heated mansions, except the maids who will do without electricity altogether). The entire fuel-guzzling, tacky, beer-drinking, NASCAR-watching middle class with their over-large families will simply have to die.


What I don't get is how she continues to be published in so many newspapers nationwide. If they need balance for their op-ed pages, try George Will. I don't agree with him, but at least he sounds rational.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-01-07 03:07 PM
Response to Original message
38. No
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
11 Bravo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-01-07 06:02 PM
Response to Reply #38
47. Thanks, Swamp Rat. Any time a bit of your genius shows up on one of my threads,
it feels good!
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-01-07 06:03 PM
Response to Reply #38
48. Could not say it better
:rofl:
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
jollyreaper2112 Donating Member (955 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-01-07 03:08 PM
Response to Original message
39. yawn
Try this one on for size.

NOT SAFE FOR WORK!!!!!! NSFW
This little ditty is vulgar, obscene, and laughter-inducing. No pictures, just text, but you will be laughing your head off. Easily inspired by Bill Hick's essay on Rush Limbaugh's scatological leanings.
NSFW NSFW NSFW NSFW NSFW NSFW NSFW

http://ifuckedanncoulterintheasshard.blogspot.com/

I first spotted her sitting at a table in front of The Gumbo Pot with another woman who looked not unlike her, but a generation older (I neglected to ask her at any point subsequently whether this had in fact been her mother). I vaguely recognized her—there’s always a lag time placing faces you know from cable when unconfined to a telescreen—and began to notice, stealing furtive glances up from the copy of Steinbeck I was reading, that she was eyeing me with unsettling scrutiny.

The next thing I knew, her companion (mother?) had left and Coulter was standing over me, looking skeptically at my reading material.
‘The Grapes of Wrath, huh?’
‘Yes’ I said, faking composure. ‘It’s fantastic.’
‘It’s a fantastic primer for vacuous proto-Communists everywhere,’ she said dismissively.
‘I don’t know about that..’
She sighed. ‘I don’t have enough ink in my pen to keep a running list of what you don’t know. May I?’
She motioned to the empty chair next to me.
‘Of course.’ It would be fair to say my voice trembled a little.
She sat and said nothing. Ann Coulter evidently takes an unappreciative view of small talk. That she was eager to continue antagonizing me became evident when I re-opened my recently-insulted book to resume reading. A young man passed in a t-shirt proclaiming ‘Iraq Nam’. She stopped him.
‘1. Haircut. 2. Shower. 3. Get a job, you sniveling hippy,’ she glowered. ‘You’re probably too high to remember that, so write it down--if you can write.’
He looked at her with dismay and scampered away like a kicked cat. She turned to me with bloodlust.
‘What do you think of the war: complete success, or very nearly complete success?’ she asked.
‘Well, in no time—barring the strong possibility of Civil War--we’ll have a democratically-elected anti-US Islamicist government in charge of the world’s second-largest oil reserves, so I’d have to say only very-nearly, on the complete success scale, at a hysterically distorted best.’
She showed her teeth. ‘It sounds to me like you don’t support our troops.’
‘I think that ‘Support Our Troops’ business is the most crass, craven cowardice ever to go unquestioned by the allegedly Liberal media.’
‘Yes? Yes?’ There was oddly growing excitement in her voice.
‘It allows the Administration to absolve itself of responsibility for its own flawed policy. It’s no different than if you sent a classroom of 2nd graders into a burning building, and when anyone objects you throw in their face that they "don’t support our 2nd graders"’
‘Where do you live?’
‘A few blocks away.’
‘Take me there.’
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Johonny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-01-07 03:38 PM
Response to Original message
40. It's hard to take serious
someone that doubts evolution as an expert on anything. Clearly She now shows she knows next to nothing about, history, political science and climate science and astrology. I can't imagine what she is an expert at that would make her opinions of interest to anyone?
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Dangerman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-01-07 03:47 PM
Response to Original message
41. Why...
Why we all have to live in a world where this fascist whore exist?
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-01-07 04:16 PM
Response to Original message
43. They were Fucking Fascists, ann..just
like you and that bushit whose boots you kiss with that excuse of a mouth.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
EstimatedProphet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-01-07 06:08 PM
Response to Original message
49. She's right. Hitler invaded Poland to force them all to use solar power.
And then he invaded France because the French were anti-abortion. :sarcasm:

She's so stupid, she's not even wrong.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Warren DeMontague Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-01-07 06:09 PM
Response to Original message
50. So the fact that she's such a bald-faced totalitarian fascist must make her a liberal, too.
Since she advocates beating liberals with baseball bats, maybe she should start on herself.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
LanternWaste Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-01-07 06:21 PM
Response to Original message
51. Both Stalin and Hitler...
Both Stalin and Hitler vilified trade unions, intellectualism (the educated and the educators), and the arts. Both had well-rehearsed propaganda machines. Both used censorship and laws to prevent disseminating the truth. Both were quite paranoid, and used the "threat" of war to expand their war powers.

Sound familiar, Ms. Coulter?
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Cabcere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-01-07 06:27 PM
Response to Original message
52. I think the sheer idiocy of that premise just caused my head to explode.
:crazy: :silly: :wtf: :wow: :shrug: :banghead:
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
deutsey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-02-07 09:40 AM
Response to Original message
55. Yes, there are people who take what she says seriously
Or at least I know people who claim that Hitler was liberal because he was a National Socialist.

:eyes:

I managed to refute that to one conservative friend of mine, but I know this bullshit persists among many others.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
bryant69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-02-07 09:41 AM
Response to Original message
56. Stalin was a liberal.
Hitler wasn't. God I'm tired of talking about what Hitler was and wasn't, but in fairness, we rarely go the same rounds with Stalin. I guess since Stalin was an Atheistic Liberal there's less desire to get into that.

Bryant
Check it out --> http://politicalcomment.blogspot.com
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
baldguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-02-07 09:49 AM
Response to Reply #56
57. Totalitarians aren't liberals.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
bryant69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-02-07 10:07 AM
Response to Reply #57
60. Stupid stupid stupid response.
But whatever.

Bryant
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
manic expression Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-02-07 12:38 PM
Response to Reply #60
84. What?
Justify your claim.

By the way, I'm a Marxist-Leninist, which makes it logically impossible for me to be a liberal.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
TheBaldyMan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-02-07 10:47 AM
Response to Reply #56
63. checked it out, can't read anything - fix your angry fruit salad layout
your blog is un-fucking-readable.

Could you cite the bit of your blog that is relevant, please? I can't read through the technicolor® tartan yawn.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-02-07 10:55 AM
Response to Reply #63
64. Deleted message
Message removed by moderator. Click here to review the message board rules.
 
TheBaldyMan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-02-07 11:18 AM
Response to Reply #64
65. somebody is getting cranky - stayed up past nap-time?
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-02-07 11:19 AM
Response to Reply #65
66. Deleted message
Message removed by moderator. Click here to review the message board rules.
 
TheBaldyMan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-02-07 11:22 AM
Response to Reply #66
67. I am silenced by your overwhelming logic n/t
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-02-07 11:24 AM
Response to Reply #67
69. Deleted message
Message removed by moderator. Click here to review the message board rules.
 
TheBaldyMan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-02-07 11:30 AM
Response to Reply #69
70. it IS unreadable
I expected you to post the passage you cite.

*mumble*simple cut and paste job*grumble*
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-02-07 11:33 AM
Response to Reply #70
71. Deleted message
Message removed by moderator. Click here to review the message board rules.
 
TheBaldyMan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-02-07 11:37 AM
Response to Reply #71
72. are you colour blind? I'm not - thats why it's unreadable.
garish hardly does it justice.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-02-07 11:40 AM
Response to Reply #72
74. Deleted message
Message removed by moderator. Click here to review the message board rules.
 
TheBaldyMan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-02-07 11:46 AM
Response to Reply #74
77. why thank you for that kind thought. n/t
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
AngryOldDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-02-07 12:52 PM
Response to Reply #71
91. Dude -- it IS unreadable
Maybe it's not loading properly. But the critique is fair -- the background is so busy that it overwhelms your type. Do you mean to have those stripes in the background? Just asking.

Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Beelzebud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-02-07 12:56 PM
Response to Reply #56
93. What liberal policies did Stalin enact?
Stalin was an authoritarian communist. He had nothing in common with liberals.

JFK was a liberal.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
manic expression Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-02-07 01:02 PM
Response to Reply #93
96. Not a single one
if you ask me (a Marxist-Leninist).

People who say communism has anything to do with liberalism simply don't know what they're talking about. At all.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
yurbud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-02-07 01:09 PM
Response to Reply #56
100. calling Stalin a liberal is like saying anyone right of FDR is a nazi.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
bryant69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-02-07 02:40 PM
Response to Reply #100
103. No it's not. It depends on how you define the word
If you are going to have a continuum approach Stalin is on the left side along with us - he's on the liberal side of the divide. On the other hand if you draw up a list of values that liberals are generally supposed to have, well he probably wouldn't fit those.

But then again, Bush wouldn't be a nazi under that second approach either.

Bryant
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
yurbud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-02-07 04:13 PM
Response to Reply #103
104. liberal is actually to the right of a lot of other political parties like labor, socialist, etc.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
yurbud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-02-07 04:14 PM
Response to Reply #103
105. Bush wouldn't be a nazi--he'd be a fascist. He doesn't have the fashion sense to be a nazi
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
manic expression Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-02-07 04:31 PM
Response to Reply #103
109. I find that to be a mistaken concept
why? Because liberalism does not agree with communism on one single substantive issue. Just because it's "closer" on the spectrum means absolutely nothing, there is no ideological connection whatsoever.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
TZ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-02-07 10:00 AM
Response to Original message
59. Proof that she has NEVER taken any political science classes
Edited on Fri Mar-02-07 10:01 AM by turtlensue
Here is what a relative of mine who taught poli sci at GTown for years is the scale of what is liberal (generally considered the Left) vs conservative (generally the right). But bear in mind that these two terms can be used fast and loosely as is obvious here.
Its a scale of sorts:
FAR LEFT--------------CENTER LEFT-------CENTER-----CENTER RIGHT-----FAR RIGHT
Communism Socialism Rep. Democracy Theocracy Fascism


So while she can technically claim that Stalin is a leftist (you could say liberal in comparison to Democrats but thats misleading) this dumb ignorant bitch who is much much closer to the Third Reich and Hitler politically has shown her true colors. No truth just loud dangerous hate. A better looking David Duke in my mind.
:dunce: :tinfoilhat: :crazy:
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
manic expression Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-02-07 12:43 PM
Response to Reply #59
87. That's basically it
but if you look even closer, liberalism is completely opposed to communism (and visa versa).

It's actually tedious to get into all of the differences, but all people need to know is that liberalism and communism do not agree on a single substantive issue (IMO).

I wish people would actually READ Marx and Lenin sometime instead of watching "Red Dawn".
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
unpossibles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-02-07 11:22 AM
Response to Original message
68. I'm not sure if she is ignorant or taking advantage of ignorance
either way, she sucks.

Hitler was not a vegetarian, a liberal, and the Nazis used Christianity not atheism to advance their goals. Shit, Hitler made several speeches about how evil liberals were.

As for Stalin, he may have been nominally left, but definitely not a liberal.

I hate Ann Coulter and how people like her have ruined honest intellectual discourse in America. Why does she hate freedom so much?
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
TZ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-02-07 11:38 AM
Response to Reply #68
73. she is living proof that
being loud and attractive carries more weight than actual knowledge. This kind of appearance is everything and substance unimportant seems to be a hallmark of the Right whether it be Bushies Neocons or the freepers or even the fundies.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
unpossibles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-02-07 11:47 AM
Response to Reply #73
78. well, I disagree on her being "attractive" but I agree with you
it's sad. Form over substance, and childish shouting matches on the "news"

If I want bullshit drama, I'll watch some daytime TV.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
MGD Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-02-07 11:41 AM
Response to Original message
75. A liberal is typically dedicated to, among other things, increased personal freedom
Neither Hitler nor Stalin believed in increased personal freedom. They believed in a government that stuck its nose into every aspect of the citizens life. They believed in authoritarianism above all else, a trait much more akin to the modern conservative than the modern liberal. Coulter is, as usual, full of shit.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Jack Rabbit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-02-07 11:44 AM
Response to Original message
76. Why are we giving this ditz free publicity?
Inquiring minds want to know.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
TZ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-02-07 11:52 AM
Response to Reply #76
79. cause she is a loud and dangerous ditz..
who has plenty of publicity already.:-(
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Uncle Joe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-02-07 12:28 PM
Response to Original message
80. There are many definitions of liberal, none of which apply to Stalin or Hitler
1. Originally, suitable for a freeman; not restricted: now obsolete except in the liberal arts, liberal education etc.

2. free to give or bestow; generous; giving largely; as, a liberal donor.

3. ample; large; abundant; as, a liberal donation.

4. free; not literal or strict; as, a liberal interpretation of the Constitution.

5. not narrow or bigoted; broad minded

6. of democratic or republican forms of government, as distinguished from monarchies, aristocracies,
etc.

7. favoring reform or progress, as in religion, education, etc.; specifically favoring political
reforms tending toward democracy and personal freedom for the individual; progressive: now
sometimes distinguished from progressive, as connoting somewhat more conservatism.

8. designating or of a political party upholding liberal principles, especially such a party in
England that developed from a coalition of the Whigs and Radicals in the first half of the
nineteenth century.

9. excessively free or indecorous as in behavior; licentious.

10. not mean; not low in birth or mind.

11. one who advocates greater freedom of thought or action; one who has liberal principles.

12. a member of a Liberal political party as in Great Britain, Canada etc.

liberal arts; the subjects of an academic college course, including literature, philosophy,
languages, history, etc., as distinguished from professional or technical subjects primarily
cultural studies: sometimes referred to as arts. (e.g. Bachelor of Arts, as distinguished from
Bachelor of Science).

liberal education: a general extensive education, not necessarily preparing the student for
for any specific profession.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
BurtWorm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-02-07 12:41 PM
Response to Original message
86. Compared to her maybe.
:eyes:
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
AngryOldDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-02-07 12:47 PM
Response to Original message
89. And Ann Coulter is an ignorant ass. n/t
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
gravity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-02-07 12:49 PM
Response to Original message
90. She is just looking for attention
Every now and then Ann Coulter needs to make a shocking statement about liberals so that people will pay attention to her.

Just ignore her.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Beaverhausen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-02-07 01:09 PM
Response to Original message
99. ...and McCarthy was a patriot and a great american
she is so wacked!
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
northzax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-02-07 04:21 PM
Response to Original message
106. you have a punctiation problem
it should read, "Coulter, Hitler, Stalin were friends"
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-02-07 04:29 PM
Response to Original message
108. Coulter is a NAZI.
Stalin and Hitler were dick-taters.

Here's another dick-tater:



I know you know this stuff, 11 Bravo. Thanks for the heads-up on the latest hallucinations out of Miss Annthrax.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
HuffleClaw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-02-07 04:42 PM
Response to Original message
113. another desperate cry for publicity i see
must have a new book in the works
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Lester222 Donating Member (58 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-03-07 06:10 AM
Response to Original message
116. Wow. that's the stuff that would get you in jail over here...
here in Germany where I live it is a Felony to downplay the Third Reich. And by comparing a political opponent to Hitler you are effectively doing that. Its probably not as bad as dening the holocaust (for which you can get up to five years), but it would sure as hell be the end of this woman's political career.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
depakid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-03-07 07:20 AM
Response to Original message
118. The woman is delusional
and clearly suffers from a personality disorder. The fact that she gets airtime or that the media take anything she says seriously just goes to show what a sorry set of circumstances the corporate media and the publishing conglomerates operate under.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
DU AdBot (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view 
this author's profile Click to add 
this author to your buddy list Click to add 
this author to your Ignore list Wed May 01st 2024, 02:12 AM
Response to Original message
Advertisements [?]
 Top

Home » Discuss » Archives » General Discussion (1/22-2007 thru 12/14/2010) Donate to DU

Powered by DCForum+ Version 1.1 Copyright 1997-2002 DCScripts.com
Software has been extensively modified by the DU administrators


Important Notices: By participating on this discussion board, visitors agree to abide by the rules outlined on our Rules page. Messages posted on the Democratic Underground Discussion Forums are the opinions of the individuals who post them, and do not necessarily represent the opinions of Democratic Underground, LLC.

Home  |  Discussion Forums  |  Journals |  Store  |  Donate

About DU  |  Contact Us  |  Privacy Policy

Got a message for Democratic Underground? Click here to send us a message.

© 2001 - 2011 Democratic Underground, LLC