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sinkingfeeling Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 04:18 PM
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Pope laments U.S. 'injustices' to blacks, Indians, reads the headline on MSNBC.com. But what has the
Pope said about the 'injustices' done to Iraqis? Where is his criticism of Bush's unholy, immoral 'war' that has caused the deaths of a million innocent Iraqis and the displacement of 4 million more?



http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/24176725/
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patrice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 04:24 PM
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1. He would have to admit that "Pro-Life" IS a LIE to do that.
not happenin'
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HockeyMom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 04:29 PM
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2. No injustices to WOMEN, Father?
You cannot leave out half the population of the world. And your church, is the biggest against half the population.

Sorry, former catholic.
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patrice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 04:37 PM
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3. Me too. Their official reason for not ordaining Women, and, hence tolerating
the pathologies of a male-dominant clergy, amounts to something like: there never have been women priests, so, therefore, there should never be women priests.
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stillcool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 05:38 PM
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4. that will take a couple of generations...
long after the land is in the hands of the 'rightful' owners.
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BeFree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 05:50 PM
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5. God Damn America?
Who the hell is he to come over here and tell us what to do? Its obvious gawd wanted us to have slaves and kill off all the natives or he'd a sent the pope mobile over here 200 hundred years ago.
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Zynx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 06:24 PM
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9. There were virtually no Catholics over here so the Pope's influence wasn't significant back then.
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BeFree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-19-08 11:49 AM
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17. Wow
You've given the perfect excuse for gawd's failure to act.

You should get paid. Seriesly. I mean if DU ever lost Zynx's wisdom where would we end up?
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 05:51 PM
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6. the pope acts like a head of state...they should drop the tax exemption for churches
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RB TexLa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-18-08 08:51 AM
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14. I don't see what the Holy See being a sovereign state has to do with separation of state and church
in this country.
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ladjf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 05:53 PM
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7. Who asked that hypocritical bastard for his opinion?
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Zynx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 06:23 PM
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8. He has criticized the war plenty in other venues.
If he doesn't include every injustice he has lamented elsewhere in every speech he gives, he is somehow a hypocrite?
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sinkingfeeling Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-18-08 08:39 AM
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11. Yes, but he needs to do it while he's in America, talking to the citizens.
Edited on Fri Apr-18-08 08:40 AM by sinkingfeeling
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NNN0LHI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-18-08 08:49 AM
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13. And then he laughs and jokes with the person who ordered the killing
Kind of minimizes any previous criticism wouldn't you say?

Don
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marmar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 06:26 PM
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10. I guess Pope Rat Fink views Iraqis as favorably as he views gays and lesbians .....
n/t
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bunkerbuster1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-18-08 08:43 AM
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12. ...don't forget any politician who doesn't believe in criminalizing abortion
because in this sick man's mind, the only way one can be opposed to abortion is to criminalize it, and if you aren't on record as wanting to criminalize abortion, you can't receive communion.

Sick, sick man.

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RB TexLa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-18-08 08:53 AM
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15. My priest is very aware of the fact that I oppose criminalizing abortion and I receive communion
Edited on Fri Apr-18-08 09:01 AM by RGBolen
every week.


edited: I didn't notice you had "politician" in the line, but I have received communion beside a US Senator who opposes criminalizing abortion during a campaign and also no problem with her receiving either.
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bunkerbuster1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-18-08 05:25 PM
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16. I'm sure many, many other devout Catholics can say as much.
Edited on Fri Apr-18-08 05:25 PM by bunkerbuster1
Point is, then-Cardinal Ratzinberger was instrumental in ensuring that churches could deny communion to politicians for that very view. so Kerry was fair game after that, in 2004.
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wpelb Donating Member (292 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-19-08 12:05 PM
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18. I believe a lot of Indians in the Americas suffered under the
Catholic Church's Jesuit missionaries, according to critics.
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-19-08 12:09 PM
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19. the pope is a politician
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