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NYCGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-01-07 03:33 PM
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The Al Gore Lie is Halfway Around the World and the Truth is Sitting in Nashville
It's worth clicking the link on this one — original article has many enlightening links embedded.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/dave-johnson-and-james-boyce/the-al-gore-lie-is-halfwa_b_42393.html

There's a tragic but true old expression that a lie can make it half way around the world before the truth can even get its pants on. Sadly, this has been proven true again this week with the $mear attack on Vice President Al Gore and his energy consumption.

Today, we noticed that the lie has made it to Germany.

How did this happen and, more to the point, why does it continue to happen?

As Media Matters continues to speak out about every single day - and we all owe them thanks - the corporate media in America absolutely fails to do serve the interest of the public. How could they spread this lie? How does a small, unknown organization with a $100,000 budget issue a press release containing a $mear on a respected former Vice President of the United States and have their lie echoed around the world within hours? Pathetic. (Just look at their IRS form! No officers, directors or trustees? Very little information? A P.O. box? Is it normal for an organization to spend that high a percentage of their funds on "meals?") One reporter asking one question about this group, or about the facts behind Gore's energy use, and the story is over. But they didn't.
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fooj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-01-07 03:35 PM
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1. Their FEAR is palpable.
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Straight Shooter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-01-07 03:37 PM
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2. Let's cut that fear with a knife and spread it on GOP toast.
:)
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catgirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-01-07 03:48 PM
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9. What a bunch of crap!!

They're probably trying to ruin his Nobel Peace Prize chances
and discourage him from running. Not to mention causing the
swing voters and republicans who admire him to turns their backs.
Now he has to defend himself against these Swift Boat style losers.
I hope this backfires in their face, and he decides to go for it.
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kestrel91316 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-01-07 04:48 PM
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28. Somehow I suspect the Nobel selection committee won't pay
much attention to the RW scream machine.........
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-01-07 11:44 PM
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blonndee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-01-07 11:45 PM
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40. Ha. You wish. n/t
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-01-07 11:48 PM
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blonndee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-01-07 11:49 PM
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42. What a sad, lonely existence you must have, sorry sockpuppet boy.
:rofl:
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-01-07 11:53 PM
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EarlG ADMIN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-01-07 03:38 PM
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3. Just like the 2000 presidential campaign
Al Gore invented the Internet, dontcha know. And co-wrote "Love Story" with James Lee Witt of FEMA.
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Supersedeas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-01-07 05:06 PM
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32. the GOP/Media Establishment has become proficient at propoganda and better at diversion
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MannyGoldstein Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-01-07 03:38 PM
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4. Any Clinton Fingerprints on This
yet?
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unpossibles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-01-07 03:42 PM
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5. you're joking, right? n/t
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MannyGoldstein Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-01-07 03:45 PM
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7. No
They're desperate to cut off Gore's air supply.
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unpossibles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-01-07 03:50 PM
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12. I just don't see the point of smearing our own, honestly
if it is confirmed that Clinton or whoever is behind this or did something wrong, then fine: go after them. But I see no point in 'feeding the trolls' so to speak (no, I am not saying you are one, just that this argument will already happen, and we don't need to add to the noise, imo)
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MannyGoldstein Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-01-07 03:57 PM
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18. I'm Curious
Proxy attacks are a Clinton (and Bush) hallmark - remember Carville yammerin' about Dean's "Rumsfeldian" defeat in the -06 electins - and Mrs Clinton, who was so quick to go after Kerry's botched joke, would not disavow Carville's nonsense?

I'm quite curious if this was a Clinton production.
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unpossibles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-01-07 04:16 PM
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23. it very well may be. politics is a dirty business, sadly
and maybe what we need to fight the Pubs is to be equally dirty, but... I just don't see the point in speculation.
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kestrel91316 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-01-07 04:51 PM
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30. Good. Keep sowing discord among Dems.
Ignore the Repubic machinery that churns out this sort of thing almost daily.

I'm no huge fan of Hillary, but I don't blame her for Vince Foster's death or any other of the world's ills. I guess I'm not on the list to get those memos.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-01-07 11:45 PM
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we can do it Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-01-07 04:11 PM
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22. Nice.
:eyes:
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johnaries Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-01-07 05:17 PM
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33. The "group" is tied to AEI. Why would the Clintons care?
Your post is senseless.
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NYCGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-01-07 06:56 PM
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35. Good point. The Clintons don't control AEI. (Even though the freepers think
the Clintons control everything.)
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BeyondGeography Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-01-07 03:43 PM
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6. Rather naive
Why should the Democrats be criticized for not standing up for Gore when it's not really clear if he's a politician anymore? Who, exactly, in the party is responsible for standing up for liberal private citizens who get ripped by the right-wing echo chamber?

In addition, Gore IS a threat, to everyone in the party who's seeking the nomination! Should THEY stand up for him?

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NYCGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-01-07 03:46 PM
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8. How about standing up for former Vice Presidents? NT
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BeyondGeography Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-01-07 03:51 PM
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13. Former Vice Presidents who aren't potentially running for anything?
That would be easier, wouldn't it? As long as Gore is a potential threat to active Democratic politicians, he'll probably get a cold shoulder from those who control Democratic Party institutions, don't you think?

Unfair, but it's the way the world tends to work.
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NYCGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-01-07 04:21 PM
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25. Certainly there has to be someone at Demo Party institutions who has not yet
taken sides.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-01-07 04:19 PM
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24. How about
the Planet?!
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unpossibles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-01-07 03:48 PM
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10. or perhaps just standing up for the truth? n/t
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fooj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-01-07 03:49 PM
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11. TRUTH is our most powerful weapon.
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-01-07 03:51 PM
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14. He IS a former Vice-President of the US. He'll always be a politician.
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Southsideirish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-01-07 03:52 PM
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15. He's a DEMOCRAT, isn't he? That's why we should all rally around him plus
we owe it to him for all the work he's done on behalf of the environment.
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LSK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-01-07 03:58 PM
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19. ummm whether hes running or not, hes the Leader of the Global Warming Crisis movement
That only deserves him being defended.
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BeyondGeography Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-01-07 04:09 PM
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21. So then the Global Warming Crisis movement
should be defending him...don't you see the problem here? Any head of any Democratic Party institution that came out and defended him right now would eventually get his or her head bitten off by one or more of the many people that are competing for the nomination, starting with, yes, the feared Clintons. But I wouldn't see the point of Obama getting his hands dirty with the saga of Al Gore's electrical consumption right now either.

Say Dean issued a statement as head of the party. Well, Gore endorsed Dean, so wouldn't that be seized upon as a sort of payback and an anti-Clinton gesture at that?

This isn't as straightforward a proposition as it seems. Plus, Gore's a big boy, he can defend himself.
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Uncle Joe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-01-07 07:35 PM
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36. Al is big man, there is no boy about him.
You are correct in one sense, it would be easier for Obama to wash his hands of defending Al Gore's use of 100% green power, that's too complicated to explain. On the other hand if the Clinton's were to bite Obama's head off as you say for defending Al Gore, would that really be a negative for Obama?



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catgirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-01-07 04:45 PM
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26. Of course they should stand up for him

He is a huge part of the democratic party. He campaigned for Kerry
didn't he? He's still very much in the loop.
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Dukkha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-01-07 05:23 PM
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34. it's standing up against "swiftboating"
the only tactic these assholes know, or "truthiness" as Colbert termed it. They know it's a lit, they know it's all bullshit. It doesn't matter all you have to do is keep talking about it as if it was the truth. It won't matter how many times it gets debunked the sheeple will buy it ( I heard Gore is a hypocrite energy water) and will dismiss the truth as "duh librul media". The 30% neanderthal Americans will believe anything Fox tells them.
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Mass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-01-07 03:53 PM
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16. For those in the thread who do not get it, it is not about Gore. It is about Democrats not standing
up for democrats.
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LSK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-01-07 03:57 PM
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17. American Enterprise Institute
Drew Johnson is just a front for them.
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DeepModem Mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-01-07 04:01 PM
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20. K&R this!
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truebrit71 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-01-07 04:46 PM
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27. Just used that piece at work...a co-worker that likes to give me a tweak once in a while...
...just sent me a part of a Michael Reagan diatribe and I zapped the article right back at him...
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NYCGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-01-07 04:59 PM
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31. Good work!
:applause:
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AngryAmish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-01-07 04:48 PM
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29. The Truth is sitting in Nashville?
Edited on Thu Mar-01-07 04:50 PM by AngryAmish
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