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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-05-08 02:26 PM
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McSameasBush and Hagee - Newsweek
http://www.newsweek.com/id/135385
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But even some Republicans (not affiliated with the campaign) privately wonder how the pastor's extreme views slipped through without notice. McCain personally wooed Hagee for more than a year. In early 2007, the Arizona senator traveled to Hagee's Cornerstone Church in San Antonio, where the two men had breakfast. They bonded over a shared commitment to the protection of Israel, a meeting that McCain later cited as a sign of his outreach to social conservatives.

After McCain's campaign collapsed last summer, Hagee stuck with the senator, traveling in September to South Carolina, where he introduced McCain at the first stop of the candidate's "No Surrender" comeback tour. In turn, the senator praised Hagee for his strong support for the war in Iraq and was a keynote speaker at the annual meeting of Christians United for Israel, a pro-Israel group that Hagee founded.
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panader0 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-05-08 02:29 PM
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1. Rec'd because people need to know more about this.
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BOSSHOG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-05-08 02:30 PM
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2. Storms destroyed a new church in Arkansas last week
Jesus fucking christ I didn't know gays were building churches in Arkansas.

I do love ole johnny mccain getting all pissed off when people ask him about his fucking preacher. Please john blow your fucking stack one of these days.

Thanks for your military service but forget the white house.
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-05-08 03:11 PM
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5. Look how McSame sought him out
I know church people don't pick their ministers but McSame sure picked out Hagee to endorse him. The silence is deafening.
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napi21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-05-08 02:48 PM
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3. That's GREAT that it's in Newsweek! I didn't get my copy yet this
week but I hope there's something on the cover about this story being inside. Also many times Newsweek authors appear on cspan, CNN & MSNBC. I HOPE this one gets to review his article on all of them!
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Triana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-05-08 02:58 PM
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4. Newsweek no less! Still waiting for it to be on TV 24 x 7 for the next month...
...but running it during the GE on the lamestream channels 24 x 7 would be nice, too.
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Supersedeas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-05-08 03:22 PM
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8. only the print media has the guts
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intheflow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-05-08 03:19 PM
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6. I'm glad the print media is picking this up.
Edited on Mon May-05-08 03:21 PM by intheflow
Unfortunately, most people don't get their news from print (or even by reading) any more. I'm glad it's in Newsweek, but I'll be more convinced they're holding McSame to the same level of accountability as Obama when I see this on the cable news 24/7. x( I also wish it was the cover story so conservatives could see it while standing in the supermarket line.

But K&R'ing anyway for the sheer pleasure of knowing at least some of the McSame crowd will be exposed to this.
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-05-08 03:21 PM
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7. The obvious question is why isn't it on
GEMNBC
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TCJ70 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-05-08 03:25 PM
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9. Who cares?
I don't care about Wright's association with Obama, and I don't care about Hagee's association with McCain.
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warren pease Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-05-08 04:12 PM
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10. Just how did those extreme views slip through without notice...?
Well gee whiz... It couldn't have anything to do with the fact that American corporate mass media has been out of the news and information business since about 1981 and the coming of Saint Raygun.

It's now in the marketing and PR business, and its sole client is the extreme right wing of the republican party and the tiny brained bigots, racist hypocrites and phony, mean-spirited assholes who comprise the irreligious right and make life in America so much dumber and lousier than it used to be when they were simply known as jesus freaks, marginalized as national laughingstocks and dismissed as delusional idiots.

Now we're supposed to take this prick seriously, this "pastor" John Hagee, a leader in the US Jesus (hearts) Zionist Fanatics movement, as he slanders his way through the entire non-bible-thumping segment of the US population, one designated group of gawd's sworn enemies at a time.

And now Newsweek reports that even some GOPiggies are wondering how this batshit crazy extremist fool and vile, hateful piece of dangerous shit slipped under our diligent media's radar. The answer's easy; they're just doing what they're paid to do. Keep the GOP from appearing as insane as it is and do as much damage to democrats as possible.

Even the deaf, dumb and blind among them must have noticed how obsessively that same mass media vilified the brilliant, learned and charismatic Rev. Wright and brutalized his beautifully crafted sermons and speeches, reducing them to a few eight-second sound bites calculated to piss off the standard-issue, icon-worshiping, flag-waving uber-patriot reactionary driving around in his shiny 2008 GlutcoWerks SuperSecs V-16 AutoErotix All-Terrain Aggressivo 4-MPG ComboStud SUV/Armored Troop Carrier.

So what's this maniac Hagee all about? Well, even though he's insulated from public scrutiny by our media gatekeepers, we still have the good rev's own words floating around the limitless public domain of the Intertubes. It's pretty easy to get a fix on him by reading just a few of his ravings.

Like this jewel, from a 2006 interview with NPR's Terry Gross, demonstrating his profound grasp of comparative religion and, specifically, the core tenets of Islam:


There is really no room for compromise between radical Islam -- well Islam in general – those who live by the Koran have a scriptural mandate to kill Christians and Jews.



Just so. He's apparently an accomplished meteorologist, too, and an expert on the origins and behavior of hurricanes, including unique knowledge of their own special brand of morality. Who knew hurricanes were bigots, too, and would smite gawd's (and Hagee's) chosen scapegoats du jour, this time the dreaded gay menace. And yet, in that same NPR interview (linked above), he claims exactly that:


All hurricanes are acts of God, because God controls the heavens. I believe that New Orleans had a level of sin that was offensive to God, and they were recipients of the judgment of God for that.

The newspaper carried the story in our local area, that was not carried nationally, that there was to be a homosexual parade there on the Monday that the Katrina came. And the promise of that parade was that it would was going to reach a level of sexuality never demonstrated before in any of the other gay pride parades.

So I believe that the judgment of God is a very real thing. I know there are people who demur from that, but I believe that the Bible teaches that when you violate the law of God, that God brings punishment sometimes before the Day of Judgment, and I believe that the Hurricane Katrina was, in fact, the judgment of God against the city of New Orleans.



Christ! Hurricanes with their own biblical agendas are even scarier than the old dumb kind.

Of course, like his political twin, he's a big supporter of the musical bomb-bomb-bomb bomb-bomb Iran "strategy," if indiscriminate brutality, mass murder of civilians and extending the reach of bloody US imperialism can be called a "strategy." But there's method in Hagee's madness, if not in McCain's. It's all about End Times.

It seems the chamber of horrors and giant shooting gallery the US has built and fostered in the Middle East has a huge upside: The quicker the bombs start falling on Tehran, the quicker the entire region will likely explode into some version of WW III, complete with "tactical" nukes for the really hard cases.

And the quicker THAT happens, the quicker our rapture-ready fundie loons will be sucked up into the sky by some super-sized celestial Dirt Devil. Then when the deity's servants, a host of second-tier angels, finally empties the bag, out they'll pop -- by the hundreds of thousands, by the millions -- blinking and tearing up as their eyes gradually adjust to the blinding lights of the coolest Pearly Gates o' Heaven(tm) theme park franchise in the galaxy. So here's the road map to Armageddon, fundie loon style:


"...the United States must join Israel in a pre-emptive military strike against Iran to fulfill God's plan for both Israel and the West." Hagee's idea of the perfect outcome is "...a biblically prophesied end-time confrontation with Iran, which will lead to the Rapture, Tribulation, and Second Coming of Christ."



And another Hagee gem (next paragraph) from a sermon he delivered in March 2008, rejoicing in the imminent arrival of some mean bearded guy who's going to "...rule the world with a rod of iron." Too painful for my tastes but I certainly encourage the Rev. Hagee to avail himself of that rod as often as possible. Maybe he and McCain can figure out some kind of mutually purifying arrangement.


The judgment of the nations is going to happen as soon as Christ returns to earth. As soon as he sets up his throne on the Temple Mount in Jerusalem, he’s going to rule the world with a rod of iron. That means he’s going to make the ACLU do what he wants them to … We will live by the law of god, and no other law.”



The premise that gawd knows much about the ACLU, and cares deeply about its every legal move, should be a little hard to swallow for even the childlike devout. Hagee, however, childlike and gullible as only a bigoted fundie jackass and biblical literalist can be, apparently feels that the ACLU has earned an intergalactic reputation for librul xtremizm and is in line for a good ass whuppin' with that divine iron rod.


For the second time today, paraphrasing Malloy, have I mentioned lately how much I loathe these people?


wp
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-05-08 04:18 PM
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11. i can't wait for the democrats to hagee mccain.
Edited on Mon May-05-08 04:21 PM by spanone
if obama hadn't denounced wright, the media would never have quit hounding him. obviously mccain is held to a different standard
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noel711 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-05-08 04:32 PM
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12. You mean he sat in those pews for over a year....?
He ate breakfast with this hate monger?

How can we believe that he doesn't hold to the same views?

How can we trust that he won't consult with this 'spiritual advisor'
for decisions to be made in the White HOuse?

There better be some renouncing/denouncing/rejecting right away!

Or better yet, McCain better schedule a major speech on theology
to put the nation's people's hearts at rest!

Oh, I heard a rumor that McCain wasn't baptised!
How can we elect a president if he isn't on the pathway to salvation?

(sarcasm alert)
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