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lame54 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-20-08 12:32 PM
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Youtube Talks of Free Speech but Banned This Vid
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iamjoy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-20-08 12:33 PM
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1. What'd They Ban?
can't see video
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ColbertWatcher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-20-08 12:35 PM
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3. It's a video of images of Iraq to "Welcome to the Jungle" n/t
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Dr. Strange Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-20-08 12:35 PM
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2. DU talks of free speech as well...
but lots of posters are banned and posts/threads are deleted.

They probably mean free speech in the first amendment sense: speech which is free of government intrusion.
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Hydra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-20-08 12:36 PM
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4. Free speech is a myth
Welcome to the "New America," where money buys you rights- like the right to voice your own opinion.
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Xithras Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-20-08 12:36 PM
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5. It violates their TOS in a few ways.
Nudity, gore, and copyrighted audio content.

Liveleak would post it, but YouTUBE is big on copyright enforcement ever since they got sued. My guess is that it was banned for the soundtrack.
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lame54 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-20-08 12:40 PM
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8. no...
I've had a vid banned for copyright infringement( I believe because I insulted the band) but the reason given for this ban was inappropriate content
Here is the other banned video
http://www.dailymotion.com/relevance/search/lame54/video/x2699t_censored-green-day-sold-out_music
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Xithras Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-20-08 01:13 PM
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9. As I said, a "few ways".
Da rulez:

1. YouTube is not for pornography or sexually explicit content. If this describes your video, even if it's a video of yourself, don't post it on YouTube. Also, be advised that we work closely with law enforcement and we report child exploitation. Please read our Safety Tips and stay safe on YouTube.
2. Don't post videos showing bad stuff like animal abuse, drug abuse, or bomb making.
3. Graphic or gratuitous violence is not allowed. If your video shows someone getting hurt, attacked, or humiliated, don't post it.
4. YouTube is not a shock site. Don't post gross-out videos of accidents, dead bodies and similar things.
5. Respect copyright. Only upload videos that you made or that you are authorized to use. This means don't upload videos you didn't make, or use content in your videos that someone else owns the copyright to, such as music tracks, snippets of copyrighted programs, or videos made by other users, without necessary authorizations. Read our Copyright Tips for more information.
6. We encourage free speech and defend everyone's right to express unpopular points of view. But we don't permit hate speech (speech which attacks or demeans a group based on race or ethnic origin, religion, disability, gender, age, veteran status, and sexual orientation/gender identity).
7. There is zero tolerance for predatory behavior, stalking, threats, harassment, invading privacy, or the revealing of other members' personal information. Anyone caught doing these things may be permanently banned from YouTube.
8. Everyone hates spam. Do not create misleading descriptions, tags, titles or thumbnails in order to increase views. It's not okay to post large amounts of untargeted, unwanted or repetitive content, including comments and private messages.

Although fuzzed, it could be argued that the video violates #1. It violates #2 (if animal abuse qualifies as bad stuff, I'm sure human abuse qualifies). #3 is clearly and unarguably violated by this video. You could make an argument for #4, and we've already discused how it violates #5.

Yes, I can understand how it got banned. YouTube has always steered clear of anything "objectionable", angling more for the community oriented, family friendly crowd (where the money is). That's why shock sites like Break and censor-free sites like Liveleak exist...they publish the kind of things that YouTube won't. This is nothing new.
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GrpCaptMandrake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-20-08 12:39 PM
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6. Can't imagine why n/t
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annabanana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-20-08 12:39 PM
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7. By what justification?
That wasn't extraordinarily gruesome. . just typicaly Iraq under our "protection".
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iamjoy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-20-08 07:02 PM
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10. It Was Gruesome And Meant To Shock
but guess what - war is gruesome and shocking.

Most of us don't really know what's going on over there, and too many don't want to know. The intent of this video (I imagine) is to jolt us awake to reality.
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