Barack effing Obama has NOT 'moved toward the center'. He's been consistant...

[Danieljay]

I effing despise these effing media whores. They create an image, then tear it down. In the mean time, not much has actually changed.

Fuck them. GOBama.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/csm/20080708/ts_csm/acentrist

WASHINGTON - Appeal to the party's base, secure the nomination, then tack back to the center for the general election. It's a time-honored tradition in American presidential politics. And in the past few weeks, Barack Obama, far more than John McCain, has made such maneuvers a nearly daily feature of his campaign.

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[Justitia]

1. This is the new meme from McCain's new campaign mgr. The press laps it up, like a Bush press memo.

They are trying to get Obama's base to turn on him, because McCain does not have the support of his own base.

Divide & Conquer.

Too many are falling for it.

[aspergris]

2. It's the meme among many in this SITE

let alone McCain.

Obama did not move towards the center on, for example, death penalty, despite numerous protestations here that he did when supported that it was just to have a DP for child rape, etc.

He said the EXACT SAME THING in the "audacity of hope" book for pete's sake.

People who have this false image of him as a leftist are dissapointed when it turns out he is not Dennis Kucinich etc. He is left of center but hardly as left as many make him out to be.

[Danieljay]

3. Then the liberals/Dems who are falling for it are just as stupid and those who support Bush.

Idiots. All of them.

[Justitia]

4. The Democratic Circular Firing Squad takes no prisoners - LOL!

And if they don't vote, or vote against Obama in the fall, they ARE NOT Democrats - period.

You are what you vote.

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[Danieljay]

11. so you will write in a candidate and risk McCain? Cause Obama losing means McCain

winning, regardless of who you vote for.

Its reality.

[blues90]

13. The way I look at it.

I have one vote that may or may not be counted. So rather than be bullied by slogans and guilt trips my choice this time is to vote my conscience whether it counts or not. That's my reality and the one I have to deal with.

I don't blame people for holding onto hope or looking for change, I do understand the concept but I also understand the reality of where we are right now.

I had my hopes up in 2000 and 2004 and 2006 and for this look what we got. I deal with massive anxiety and panic attacks and the election day of 2004 I walked 2 miles to vote for Kerry when my car would not start. This was close to impossible for me and I was on my cell to my wife the entire time just to breath and steady my hands enough to punch the ballot. The next day I watched Kerry toss my efforts down the toilet. But I did it again in 2006 with much if not more of the very same inner battle to breath and see now how this worked out.

So I just can't muster up the hope again. Look at what we have to even begin to overcome and it did not have to be this way at all.

It reminds me of the abusive spouse telling the abused I promise never to do it again , then comes the next broken tooth or black eye.

[Danieljay]

14. and thats exactly what the right wing wants you to do... lose hope and throw away a vote. n/t

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[Justitia]

19. And "writing in" a non-candidate is the stupidest f'ing thing ever. What does that accomplish?

Does stamping your feet & throwing a tantrum make you feel better?

Writing in a person's name who isn't even running makes you look dumb. Empty threat.

If you want the perfect candidate for YOU, then YOU should run for president.

Meanwhile, the rest of us who don't have our heads up our own narcissistic asses, will help elect a Democrat to the White House.

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

5. Unfortunately, he has always been a centrist.

[Pastiche423]

6. If it's not the center he's moved to

then it's the right.

Whatever you want to call it, Obama HAS moved away from the progressive base.

[Danieljay]

10. there is a sucker born every moment. n/t

[Pastiche423]

12. Hi, sucker!

[LWolf]

7. I don't tune into the msm in any form,

so I can't speak to what they may or may not be saying.

I agree that he hasn't moved to the center; he's been center-right all along.

Which is why I never supported him.

He hasn't changed. It's easy for voters to project their own liberal hopes and dreams onto "change we can believe in," when that change is deliberately vague, beyond the "bringing people together," which, if you think with brain cells instead of emotion, clearly indicates centrist compromise.

Faced with the reality, perhaps some voters are experiencing remorse.

[Lex]

9. I always wondered why people here thought he was a liberal

:shrug:

[MetaTrope]

16. The media picked our candidate(s) for us...didn't anyone notice?

[mmonk]

17. Your last part is enough to be bothersome.

I guess pledges don't mean everything.
http://www.americanfreedomcampaign.org/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=118&Itemid=59
Before, I get attacked, I'm voting for him. But I've had enough of losing the constitution. It's obvious to me we are and will lose many of our freedoms that were once guaranteed. It's also obvious members of both parties are to be blamed. The people have no power. There are enough ignorant human beings in this country willing to give it all away and cheer while doing it.

[NeedleCast]

18. The Far, Far left (mostly) wont be happy until we nominate Kuch

and he goes on to lose 50 states.