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Subdivisions Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-08-08 06:16 PM
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If the immunity provision is removed from FISA, I'm gonna sue AT&T.
After all, ALL Internet traffic was routed through that San Francisco room according to "...Mark Klein, former technician at AT&T for over twenty-two years. He discovered that internet traffic in AT&T operations centers was being regularly diverted to the National Security Agency. Klein is a witness in a lawsuit filed against AT&T by the Electronic Frontier Foundation, which alleges AT&T illegally gave the NSA access to its networks. http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=389&topic_id=3579620">More »

Which means that my own Internet activity was exposed to their treachery and my privacy was compromised. Including my comments right here on DU. So, I want in on the damages should they fail to get off the hook.
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cascadiance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-08-08 06:19 PM
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1. Perhaps a nice side effect is that we could perhaps "free" the IPhone too!

and make it so that we can get other carriers to support it and make it more of an "open" platform. Perhaps Quest Apple? Al Gore, you're on the board. Let's make it happen!
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rucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-08-08 06:20 PM
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2. You'll have a hard and expensive time proving damages.
I'd wait for the class-actions.
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Tandalayo_Scheisskopf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-08-08 06:20 PM
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3. There will probably be...
One huge class action lawsuit, determined by the courts, which will last for 15 years and you will receive $1.38.
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JDPriestly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-08-08 07:02 PM
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8. But the point will be made. You seem down on courts and the legal system.
Class action suits are sometimes brought for financial justice and damages, but they may also be brought in order to obtain a court ruling that corrects the action of a party -- usually a more powerful party than the members of the suing class.

The purpose of lending your name to some class action suit can be to get a financial damages award for your losses, but very often, it is not for money but to achieve a change in conduct or a clarification of the law or both or simply to resolve a dispute over the duties of parties to the lawsuit.

You sound very cynical, but you must understand, lawsuits are just as vital to our democracy as elections. Lawsuits are the means through which the laws that legislatures pass are clarified and understood. They are the means through which we maintain harmony and resolve disputes without reverting to violence or repression. The relative peace that we enjoy as a society is due mostly to the independence and dedication to justice of most of our courts.

Yes, peacefully resolving disputes takes a long time and is an expensive process when you consider the costs of maintaining courts and paying attorneys to fight it out with their words but having a relatively peaceful society is worth it.
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Tandalayo_Scheisskopf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-08-08 08:45 PM
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10. Yes I am, especially the justice system.
Both have been corrupted, but the justice system has proven itself, time and time again, to be something else: a vengence system, to provide bread and circuses to the lumpen proletariat.

Keeps them distracted as they swirl down the toilet.
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Breeze54 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-08-08 06:22 PM
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4. Let's make it a Class Action Lawsuit!
Everyone should file against the culprits!! ;)
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Echo In Light Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-08-08 06:35 PM
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7. Bingo. Strength in numbers
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Subdivisions Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-08-08 07:10 PM
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9. That was exactly my point. EVERYBODY should sue them. n/t
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TriplD Donating Member (52 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-08-08 06:30 PM
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5. I'm with ya
although I really don't care if I get a dime, but these telco's should have to pay dearly. They should be forced to selling off their networks to Qwest and the other companies that obeyed the law to pay for their damages. That's justice, those who obey the law should get ahead. The criminal telco's were rewarded by being given the secret NSA contracts to construct Big Brother. What congress is proposing rewards the criminals again. What does that tell the Qwest's they should do next time?
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Breeze54 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-08-08 06:34 PM
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6. It tells Qwest to stand their ground, as they have been doing all along!
Welcome to DU, TriplD ! :hi:

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