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Crazy Dave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-12-08 08:07 AM
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We also have "mental recession" attitudes right here on DU
Unbelievable, not on Faux News, not on FreeRepublic, right here on this website and not from new members either. In the past two weeks I've gotten the "well things are going good for me so it's not as bad as you and everyone else says it is" responses to the disastrous employment and health care crisis America has.
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marmar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-12-08 08:11 AM
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1. There's quite a bit of denial, particularly when it comes to the economy, on DU......
..... which suprises me too, I must say.


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salin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-12-08 08:46 AM
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11. We have long had two extremes at DU
the world as we know is about to be completely decimated... and the in-denial folks, per the economy. The latter use more recent eras of recessions (ala cycles from the 80s on) and don't seem to grasp that the underlying fundamentals are very diferent today; the former can be so alarmist on so many fronts that even when right can be dismissed due to a record of hysteria.

I have to say that while not a hysterical alarmist, I have been typing about great concerns about the huge loads of debt from the individual to banks to local through fed govt, to corporations - since the corporate implosion of Enron. Sadly, there is no joy nor upside in "having been right".

Yet for the deniers - it is hard to fathom considering extreme inflation of many fixed costs of living (transportation, food, heating, etc.) with little to no real wage increases as not being a serious, serious deal. Especially when we have such ingrained corporate cronyism that leads to very corporate friendly policies that basically leaves the govt straight-jacketed per generating, let alone implementing any policies that will do much of anything to address the fundamental problems.
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KG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-12-08 08:14 AM
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2. you know how it goes. it's a recession when your nieghbor loses his job
it's a depresion when you lose yours.

my hours have been cut back. i'm looking for another job, but my line of work is residential building. there aint nothing out there.
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NNN0LHI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-12-08 08:24 AM
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5. I have noticed a lot of the residential building guys around here have gone into rehabbing repos
They buy them cheap, fix them up and sell them.

Its dirty work but some of the neighborhoods that were looking really shabby for many years where this rehabbing is going on seem to be looking nicer.

Don
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Crazy Dave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-12-08 08:32 AM
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10. You can't sell nothing here in this state and...
Edited on Sat Jul-12-08 08:53 AM by DaveTheWave
...how the heck can somebody buy or finance something on unemployment? And let's just assume you can afford or finance a repo to fix up and let's even assume you'll be able to sell it, a house that sold for $200k three years ago is now worth $130k so where is the profit margin? Making it up in volume???
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Crazy Dave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-12-08 08:26 AM
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7. I looked to see what state you were in
I know all about it. There's plumbers, surveyors and civil engineers who either owned their companies or worked at the same company for 20 plus years now un-employed.

But hey....it's only in their whiney heads that things are bad :sarcasm:
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guruoo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-12-08 08:14 AM
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3. IMHO, shortsightedness is the #1 problem we have here...
Edited on Sat Jul-12-08 08:15 AM by guruoo
"We want it all, and we want it now"
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Deja Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-12-08 08:18 AM
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4. Well, what can people do?
Now we've all heard the R-word some several hundred times, but those who say the R-word can't seem to be bothered than being anything more than lips on legs. All they do is incite to R-word and that isn't a very bright thing to do, reinforces negative stereotypes, and in short nothing good comes out of doing it. Makes it no different than those who are against something then go and do it anyway.


Just in case, yon precious R-word is...




drum roll



Sequin clad model opening the envelope



envelope drops so she bends over to pick it up while everyone gawks at her cleavage






revolt

:eyes:





On the other hand, maybe they think the world is going to hell, so they'll do whatever they want and consequences be damned? I sure as hell don't know, nor can do more than conjecture absurdities.

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Crazy Dave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-12-08 08:29 AM
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9. The ones who are doing well say we should do nothing....
Edited on Sat Jul-12-08 08:34 AM by DaveTheWave
...except quit our whining and the ones who just lost their jobs and their homes, well it's all just in their head
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Warpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-12-08 08:24 AM
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6. Is that how we're spelling "fucking furious" these days?
If that's the case, then I've got a massive mental recession and I'm still doing OK with more than adequate income and improving health, although still no access to health insurance.

It's so hard to keep up with right wing PC. It's a good thing compassionate conservatives like Phil Gramm are out there to tell us what we're feeling, else we might never know.
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baby_mouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-12-08 08:27 AM
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8. Dude, DU is a centrist website. It stopped being left-wing ages ago. NT.
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