Federal court: Bush can indefinitely detain civilians

[bdamomma]

Read this
just a snip:


A federal court has issued two rulings, the New York Times reports: One favoring President Bush's indefinite detentions of "enemy combatants," and another granting one of said "enemy combatants" the opportunity to challenge his detention in court.

The court effectively ruled that President Bush has the same right to indefinitely detain a civilian on American soil as he does an enemy soldier on a battlefield.



http://rawstory.com/news/2008/Federal_court_Bush_can_indefinitely_detain_0715.html

[whistle]

1. How does the court define "enemy combatant"?

[mmonk]

3. It doesn't. However, the court tends to honor the king

in deference to made up terms he comes up with through decrees. It's called judicial appointment.

[whistle]

5. There are documented references to the term as follows...

Enemy Combatant: The term, Enemy Combatant, is used by the Bush administration to refer to a person designated by the US President as an enemy fighter, even if he/she is not a member of an army, like Guantanamo prisoners. The term also applies to US citizens, like Padilla. The US courts ruled in 2004 that even if a person is classified as such, he/she could have access to federal courts, which means the right to an attorney, due process, and a trial.

So the last sentence from above has changed from yesterday's court ruling I take it.

Further summarized discussions of the term "enemy combatant" can be found here:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enemy_combatant

[mmonk]

6. They are ruling due process can be overruled by the executive

branch it appears and thus flies in the face of the Constitution. These people should be removed from the court system. They should know the executive branch is not a law making body. It goes against everything Constitutional lawyers were taught. Drives me crazy, especially when I hear the Star Spangled Banner at a sporting event and people cheering at the words "land of the free".:banghead:

[indepat]

10. That's what we get with 'puke-appointed jurists: fuck the Constitution, fuck the rule of law,

fuck justice, fuck reason, fuck liberty. :D

[fasttense]

2. Holy shit that means the president can deny you the right to a criminal trial and

keep you locked up forever and all the idiot in chief need do is declare you an enemy combatant. So now can we call him DICTATOR Bush? Or perhaps KING George is more appropriate?

[Benhurst]

4. Shh!

You live in The Land of the Free.

To suggest anything to the contrary is unpatriotic and dangerous.

[hoosier_lefty]

7. I'm sure the founding fathers would be proud!

or NOT.

[happyslug]

8. Here is the opinion

http://pacer.ca4.uscourts.gov/opinion.pdf/067427A.P.pdf

[no_hypocrisy]

9. Any of us could end up in a gulag . . . .