I think Bruce Ivins was Murdered I mean Suicided

[LeighAnn]

I just wrote a blog post about it

http://www.leighannlittle.com/2008/08/i-think-bruce-ivins-was-murdered.html

It's got links and such.

I think it's all bullshit.

[Hissyspit]

1. Very good.

[orleans]

2. i think it's bullshit too. i downloaded randi's show from friday

and she's talking about it nonstop.

[liberalmuse]

3. It's about as legit as that DC Madam's suicide.

I'm not about to start a Falwellian 'Bush Death' list, but damn.

[JDPriestly]

4. The restraining order was days before the suicide.

And it is unbelievable to me that the government would have hired and retained this man to work on biological weapons and the like if he had been homicidal and suicidal since graduate school. No way. Either the government was very careless or the story that the man was dangerous is untrue.

[noise]

5. It's funny how we have YEARS

of secrecy, false accusations, fear mongering, etc. and then we have some bizarre report of a lone nut being the culprit yet anyone whose BS detector goes off is a conspiracy theorist. Yeah right. It's called COMMON SENSE. There is no reason to trust US media or government officials.

[ladjf]

7. And there is every reason not to trust the Government, which includes

the media, their propaganda arm.

[LeighAnn]

10. "Some Saw a Dark Side"

This is how they're dragging the guy through the mud, with headlines like this.

http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5hoIfsuWqM7DNKzhcHdaSNvdfQ9ggD92A18RG0

Seems like everybody who knew and worked with the guy thought, until the government started hounding him, that he was a jolly, happy guy. They're quoting the writer of the affidavit and the brother Ivins hadn't spoken to since 1985 to prove to the world that Ivins was guilty.

Last night I read an article which charactarized Ivins as being "socially withdrawn", and then three paragraphs later said he was beloved for juggling while riding his unicycle at church and Red Cross functions or something like that.

Having slept on it, I'm much more convinced the guy was murdered.

[noise]

12. 23 years since they spoke!

His brothers' quote: "He considered himself like a god."

Some might suggest this simply means Ivins was arrogant. Others (possibly the network media) might suggest this is ironclad circumstantial evidence that Ivins' god-like complex manifested itself by way of anthrax terrorism, with a peculiar (but completely understandable) focus on Leahy and Daschle.

[LeighAnn]

13. Yeah, a lot of siblings think that

Sounded like the decorated scientist didn't have much use for his brother. I've read every story on Bruce Ivins I could get my mouse on today and family, friends, colleagues, and neighbors considered him a kind, humble, religious man.

Everything being said against him is coming from the "counselor" and this disgruntled brother. Not one other person has jumped up today to say, "I knew him, he was a madman!"

[Kaleko]

6. Wow, so much to read and take in about this case..

Haven't had time to follow all your links yet, but I hope others will go ahead and click on them.

Just found this comment at a related HuffPO thread. It sums up some immediate concerns really well.

westreal writes:

The MSM is not asking the one simple and most important question. HOW DID SOMEONE WITH HOMICIDAL TENDENCIES GET A SECURITY CLEARANCE?

This fact rocks the foundation of the FBI's case. I would like to hear how they answer this. But it seems to me that after they failed with pinning this on Stephen Hatfield they tried to go with someone with a questionable past and prone to extreme emotional swings.

The other question that needs answering is why the guy used Tylenol to kill himself? He has access to all types of drugs that would have done the job quicker and more efficiently. And he wouldn't need to swallow the whole bottle to make it happen. He could have taken a quick trip to Walgreens for something more potent than Tylenol. Heck I bet he had something stashed away in his closet that was better than Tylenol.

Regardless, the Bush administration got what it wanted. A close to a case that would have undoubtedly been investigated under Obama. Yeah, the case should still be open and investigated until they find hard evidence that Bruce Ivins was involved but I bet the FBI take this case, classify it top secret and store it away in the bowels of the Pentagon where it will eventually be "lost" before a Freedom Of Information Act request is granted.

[Mr_Jefferson_24]

8. Does Philip Zack have something to hide?

http://www.thesimon.com/magazine/articles/canon_fodder/...

http://www.commondreams.org/headlines02/0120-05.htm

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philip_Zack


Anyone know anything about him?

[screembloodymurder]

9. WTF, she even misspelled psychiatrist!

Can you spell set up?

[LeighAnn]

11. Yep, and look at that erratic handwriting

Looks like several peoples' writing.