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Danieljay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-02-08 02:54 PM
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Why is the Obama campaign giving McCain something else to attack him for (refusing extra debates)
Obama would clean McCain's clock.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080802/ap_on_el_pr/presidential_debates

This is another opportunity for McCain to make accusations and innuendo through the press to make Obama look weak.
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tabatha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-02-08 02:55 PM
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1. Because it is not the answers....
but the questions.

If they are not fair, it is a waste of time.
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AlinPA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-02-08 02:56 PM
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2. It would not be wise for Obama to give McCain the chance to feed off the big crowds that Obama
would draw. McCain just wants a piece of the excitement. Obama should ignore the slimeball for this kinds of meetings.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-02-08 02:57 PM
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3. The McWar campaign is going to live on innuendo and accusations
no matter what Obama does.

:shrug:
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livetohike Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-02-08 02:58 PM
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4. McCain should be careful what he wishes for
Three debates is more than enough for the country to see what an excellent President Obama will make.

The addled, past his prime McCain will appear pathetic standing/talking next to Obama, imo.
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Danieljay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-02-08 03:23 PM
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16. Like I said, Obama would clean McCains clock.. I just wish Obama would have made this move first..
put McCain on the defensive a bit.
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livetohike Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-02-08 06:03 PM
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35. I know what you mean....but then maybe Obama would be
painted as mean-spirited. No matter what he does the MSM dings him for it :shrug:.
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and-justice-for-all Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-02-08 07:05 PM
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38. He will, don't you worry...
McToad makes himself look like an ass daily. While Obama talks about the issues and what is important.
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JaneQPublic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-02-08 04:22 PM
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33. What Obama should do is say, "instead of MORE debates, let's have LONGER debates."
Have at least one 4, 5, maybe 6 hours long. If McSame really thinks he's up to being president, even though he now schedules only one campaign event per day and usually takes weekends off, a marathon debate will prove whether he is or not.

And even if he doesn't drop from exhaustion, he'll probably get so damned pissy that he'll throw one of his famous temper tantrums for all the world to see.
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livetohike Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-02-08 06:02 PM
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34. I give McCain fifteen minutes before he shows the nation
what a smart ass temper he has :-).
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JaneQPublic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-02-08 06:57 PM
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36. My money is on a total meltdown by Sen. McSame (nt)
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TexasObserver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-02-08 02:59 PM
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5. Three is the norm. No one cares about having more.
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Frances Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-02-08 03:03 PM
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7. Three debates is fair
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ClassWarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-02-08 02:59 PM
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6. Like RW nutjobs like McBush need excuses to attack decent Americans.
:eyes:

NGU.



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jaysunb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-02-08 03:04 PM
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8. Imagine this :
you're in a 12 round boxing match and it's the 7th round, and you're beating the shit out of your opponent when his corner demands there be extra rounds or a couple extra minutes for the rest of the fight.

What do you do ?

You ignore the bullshit and keep doing what you've been doing.

:evilfrown:
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Danieljay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-02-08 03:09 PM
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10. I'm with ya, but I don't think Obama is beating the shit out of McCain at this point in time.
Thought I would love to believe so.
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jaysunb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-02-08 03:17 PM
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14. I don't want to be overly optimistic, but
if the election was held today, Obama would win in a landslide. I know lots can happen in the next 90 days, but as of now, it's a no brainer.

BUT, let's keep working like we're 10 points down. :thumbsup:
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Danieljay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-02-08 03:22 PM
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15. I totally agree. I'm a little shaken after Bush was elected twice, even if it was stolen.. it was
close enough to steal it.

I just wish the Obama campaign would come out a little stronger and louder. Not attacking, but something to counter all the crap...
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GreenTea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-02-08 03:05 PM
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9. You don't play defense.... You go on the offense, fuck this if McCain needs this shit
Edited on Sat Aug-02-08 03:10 PM by GreenTea
to help him he's much deeper shit than worrying about what McCain will whine about next...they'll always find something...You don't run against republican assholes and let them dictate what you should do...You come out and say what you're going to do and that's it...written in stone, you say it confidently and loudly!

You don't hide and hope for the best and play it safe and cower because you might not get the right reaction so just do nothing or do what everyone wants? A sure recipe for losing as we've seen so many times before, "close but no cigar"!!

GET FUCKING REAL DUDE!
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Danieljay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-02-08 03:11 PM
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12. I am real, dude. Unfortunately the media plays right into McCain's hand with these things...
I get your point but I wish Obama's campaign would speed up the counter punches and run a little more offense.
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ClassWarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-02-08 03:27 PM
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18. The media LIVES in McBush's hand.
Sort of like the alien that lives in his cheek.

NGU.



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NanceGreggs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-02-08 03:09 PM
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11. So Obama is "giving" McCain something else ...
... to attack him for?

Are you suggesting that Obama should just do whatever McCain wants? Are you also suggesting that the attacks from McCain will stop if Obama does what McCain wants him to do?

:eyes:
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Danieljay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-02-08 03:14 PM
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13. not at all... I'm suggesting that Obama play a little offense and put McCain on his heels a bit.
Thats all.
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ClassWarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-02-08 03:26 PM
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17. You're saying he should be proactive...
...by being reactive?

:rofl:

NGU.



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Danieljay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-02-08 03:31 PM
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19. umm, no. I'm suggesting he should be more proactive so MCCAIN can be reactive. n/t
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Virginia Dare Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-02-08 03:32 PM
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21. McCain is being reactive because he's whining about Obama..
not giving him his way. You complain about the media spin, but you buy right into it.
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ClassWarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-02-08 03:41 PM
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26. McBush's ENTIRE CAMPAIGN is reactive. All he talks about is Obama.
:eyes:

NGU.



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NanceGreggs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-02-08 03:37 PM
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24. Obama IS playing offense ...
... by dictating the terms of the debates, and how many there will be according to HIS wishes, NOT McCain's.



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Virginia Dare Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-02-08 03:31 PM
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20. I guess Obama should do what McCain tells him to do..
so McCain won't attack him on it?...:wtf:

Obama once said it sounded like a good idea, but now, obviously he doesn't think he needs to do it, so why should he? McCain can go pound sand if he doesn't like it.
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KansDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-02-08 03:34 PM
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22. Does this include spending half of one debate discussing flag-lapel pins?
Just curious...
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KharmaTrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-02-08 03:36 PM
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23. Eagles Don't Fly With Turkeys
The sign a candidate is desperate and doing badly is when they cry out for debates...it's not that they want the debate as much as they want the coverage...and the hope to trip up the other guy.

Senator Obama has so far played this campaign on his terms...agreeing to more "debates" with Gramps would be letting him set the agenda. Why give the bastard the satisfaction. And let him cry about how Obama's hiding from him...another desparation technique...trying to focus a debate on the debate, not the issues. Keep your eye on the ball here.

Yep, Obama will clean Gramps clock and we'll have three debates of Senator Obama's chosing...and outside of the spin and manipulation of Camp Gramps. That's plenty...actually more than plenty.
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Danieljay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-02-08 03:56 PM
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29. I totally get your point. Like I said, i'm still a bit shaken that Bush could actually be elected
twice.

I'm ready to see Obama mop the floor with McCains flip flopping ass. I want to see it now.
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-02-08 03:37 PM
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25. obama should not let mccain set the agenda. period.
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givemebackmycountry Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-02-08 03:43 PM
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27. I believe this...
You get John McCain on the left side of a stage, in front of a podium.
You get Barack Obama on the right side of the stage, in front of a podium.
Think about that visual for a second.
See what I see?
On the left is a OLD, pasty, grey haired, balding, wrinkled, hunched, little man, our "American Hero".
On the right is a tall, young man, brilliant smile and bright eyes, full of promise and hope and vision.

THEN, they start asking questions.

WHAT do you think is going to happen?

I'll tell you what's going to happen.
There may not be two debates, never mind three.
Barack Obama will carve this guy up.

Obama's grasp of the problems that face us, and John McCain's ability to deliver nothing but Republican talking points will be his death knell.
John McCain is SO out of his league.
He'll get flustered.
He'll get confused.
He'll get mad.
He'll self destruct.

Then they will probably blame Obama for beating up on an old white guy, and McCain will roll into the White House.
(Just kidding)

Picture Obama and McCain on the same stage going at each other.
You see that?

One one side you have "my friends" and "my good friends".
On the other side you have the audacity of hope, beaming like a stadium light.

I pity John McCain.
He's about to get his due.

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Danieljay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-02-08 03:55 PM
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28. and I'll be celebrating when he does... I'm just anxious to see it happen, big time. I want to see
Obama clean his clock.
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LWolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-02-08 03:57 PM
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30. Why isn't this in GDP where it belongs? nt
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napi21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-02-08 04:00 PM
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31. Because it's always the LOSER who wants additional debates,
just on the outside chance the leader might make a mistake!
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Warren Stupidity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-02-08 04:05 PM
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32. oh noes!
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and-justice-for-all Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-02-08 07:03 PM
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37. They will get the chance to debate....
or Obama will have the opportunity to kick McBush's ass on the public platform shortly.

Obama would rather continue addressing real issues with the American public, instead of deal with McToad in a silly debate right this moment.

McToad and his campaign are doing the typical bullshit that repigs always do. Since they can not win on any of the issues, they have to resort to mudkicking and petty ads that are irrelevant and not what the people want to hear.

Obama has class and a tactic that McToad will feel come legitimate debate time.
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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-02-08 08:18 PM
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39.  THREE debates is one too many
The conventions are in Aug-Sept.. the election is the first week of November..Debates take preparation..Candidates cannot afford to waste campaigning time for more than one a month (Sept& Oct)..

We don't even have "real" debates anyway, so it's a no-brainer for me..

In a perfect world (my world)..we would have 6 regional primaries, starting in Feb (no campaigning BEFORE that month), with one debate per month, as the candidates winnow away..All primaries would be over in July, leaving August for the conventions and then 2 debates, one in Sept & one in Oct....



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