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TomInTib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-12-08 09:17 PM
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Amway is a Countdown sponsor?
Whoah!

What the hell is going on, here?
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dsc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-12-08 09:18 PM
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1. they sponsered the GLAAD media awards on Bravo a few months ago
I have no clue but they apparently are getting more liberal or at least trying to appeal to liberals.
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Mike Nelson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-12-08 09:19 PM
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2. Yikes!
good thing I've stopped watching
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Lint Head Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-12-08 09:19 PM
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3. They know advertising on a highly rated show is the game.
I met the prick that started AMWAY. He is a conservative wing nut job. :dem:
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XOKCowboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-12-08 09:22 PM
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4. Take their money.
and laugh....
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TomInTib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-12-08 10:06 PM
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6. I don't think it is that simple or easy, XOKC....
the guy that writes the checks can play.

Really hard.

I will continue to watch, anyway.
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Bozita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-12-08 10:25 PM
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9. Amway may be signing on with the intent of pulling the ads in a soon-to-come brouhaha over KO
Watch for other similarly motivated sponsors. It will take more than one.


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TomInTib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-12-08 10:30 PM
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10. Yep. They will all line up in the hallway.
And rub on it. Make it big and threaten to bail.

These fuckers are trying to get KO off the air.

Just wait and watch.

But don't but any of their shit.
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XOKCowboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-12-08 10:41 PM
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12. That was basically my point..
Any sponsor is a good sponsor right now. Just don't buy their shit or go to their seminars. Amway big wigs are scum.
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valerief Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-12-08 10:38 PM
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11. That sounds more like it. nt
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Bozita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-12-08 09:40 PM
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5. I think of Blackwater USA every time I see the name "Amway"
Maybe because it's the military arm of Amway.

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TomInTib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-12-08 10:09 PM
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7. Amway is in far more countries than is Blackwater.
They are horrible.

I know a guy who was head of their International Business Development.

The stories he tells would curl your hair and boil your flesh right off the bone, Bozita.
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Bozita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-12-08 10:16 PM
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8. For now, Tom. For now.
Blackwater's in a real growth industry.

You've heard of their new RentaCIA, a privately owned, for profit intelligence organization. For hire.

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XOKCowboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-12-08 11:56 PM
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13. We always made them pay COD
for their seminars. It always came down to the last minute before they'd pay also. There would be all of these guys (and women) in $2000 suits talking and laughing about the rubes waiting to get in while we set up their equipment. When we'd demand payment they'd always say the person who had the cash was on their way, etc. We'd start pulling equipment and the credit cards (and the cursing) would come out.

It always irked me the attitude those fuckers had before the doors opened. It was like pigs at a trough and the poor people waiting to get inside looked like they barely had 2 nickels to rub together.
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TomInTib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-13-08 11:38 AM
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19. That figures
Kind of like an old Tent Show.
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walldude Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-13-08 11:53 AM
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21. And now instead of two nickles they have a garage full of
shitty Amway product they can't get rid of.


How's it goin bro? I'll be home for a few weeks in Sept.. will call you.
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ConsAreLiars Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-13-08 03:22 AM
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14. Are you somehow deluded into believing that any corporate advertiser
is somehow less of a liar and con operation? Are there any corporate ads which are not intended solely to deceive and steal? They are all running scams. They are all thieves and swindlers. Nothing corporate advertisers say is ever true, and everything they say is designed to impoverish you. Amway is no different than any other profit machine. None of them are human or have any human values or goals. Don't be suckered.
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Irreverend IX Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-13-08 03:46 AM
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15. Amway goes quite a bit farther than other guys.
Search for "merchants of deception" and download the book written by an ex-insider. The author rose to a high level in the organization and left after realizing its utter corruption, and afterward suffered PTSD and constant fear that his former fellow distributors would try to kill him.
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ConsAreLiars Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-13-08 04:12 AM
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18. The others murder by the thousands every year,
Edited on Wed Aug-13-08 04:40 AM by ConsAreLiars
They factor in the cost of lawsuits and a battalion of lawyers and the odds of getting caaught versus the profits. It is just good business. They are no less evil, maybe more, because they are more powerful. There is surely no difference in quality, only degree. They are all totally amoral and murderous by design. Not to diminish the one-on-one evil that person experienced, but there is no difference in ethics or consequences with the famous Pharmas or Chemical or Oil or Insurance or Banking or Mining corps or any other scheme. Their death tolls are certainly higher.

(edit to ad a small bit)
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mhatrw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-13-08 03:49 AM
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16. Shhhhh. It's NOT Amway.
It's some other name they changed to so people wouldn't know it was Amway.
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awoke_in_2003 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-13-08 04:03 AM
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17. In the US, it is Quixtar. nt
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jmowreader Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-14-08 04:36 AM
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25. It's back to being Amway.
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TahitiNut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-13-08 11:43 AM
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20. That's because Canada outlawed Amway.
Dick and Betsy got reamed big time in Canada. Deservedly so.

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mod mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-13-08 11:54 AM
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22. What's funny is in my market, the RW Fundie Rod Parsley also advertises on Countdown.
:eyes:
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Bozita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-13-08 07:30 PM
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23. Wednesday: Amway ad just ran on Countdown
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ddeclue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-13-08 07:34 PM
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24. Rich DeVos is (was) the CEO...
He was the GOP candidate for Gov of Michigan in '06. His wife was the former Michigan Republican Party Chair.

He backs school vouchers and religious home schooling.

He is also the billionaire owner of the Orlando Magic and recipient of a half billion dollar subsidy to build a new stadium there. (The "old" stadium was built in 1989)

Doug D.
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