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bigtree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-14-08 02:47 PM
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McCain and the Same Old, Same Old
Everything about the candidacy of John McCain is old. The candidate's old, his policies are old, and his divisive politics are a throwback to every republican campaign for the presidency we've endured in the last two decades. Moreover, the candidacy of John McCain is not about moving the country ahead into the future, it's yet another cynical attempt to codify and continue the failures, abuses of power, and rape of our treasury that the Bush term has produced.

McCain's pandering on the issue of taxes is his signature flip in this campaign. When he ran for president against Bush in 2000, McCain acknowledged that a huge percentage of the benefits went to a fraction of wealthy taxpayers.

"Governor Bush has 38 percent of his tax cut go to the wealthiest one percent of Americans—pay down the debt, Social Security and Medicare," Mccain had complained back then. "I cannot in good conscience support a tax cut in which so many of the benefits go to the most fortunate among us at the expense of middle-class Americans who need tax relief," he said, again in 2001.

Yet, in 2006, McCain saw a benefit for his presidential ambitions in reaching back to embrace a scheme he had so soundly rejected just years earlier. McCain voted to continue Bush's tax cuts on capital gains and dividends and other tax breaks in a $70 billion Tax Relief Extension Reconciliation Act. To advance his political future, McCain was more than willing to defend the cornerstone of Bush's economic folly. No matter that his economic prescription is nothing more than a throwback to Bush's patronage of his wealthy and corporate benefactors.

But, nowhere are McCain's regressive intentions for America more evident than in his fawning defense of Bush's militarism in Iraq and in his indifference to the lessons learned from this administration's reflexive use and support of military force as the solution to every conflict or ambition abroad. Never before in the history of our nation have our government and military institutions been so stifled and neutered in their efforts to halt or stem the growing trend of violent acts of terrorism in response to America's presence and initiative outside of our borders.

Yet, this administration, and, now, their protege' McCain, have insisted on pressing forward with their dual, destabilizing occupations and posturing as if we haven't already been witness to the limits of the use of even the awesome force of America's military to effect whatever democratic change is promised or expected and can continue on indefinitely to some 'victory' or 'success.'

Despite the promises from this administration of political reconciliation in Iraq and assurances that democracy would blossom and flourish if just given some "breathing room" at the expense of the lives of nearly an additional thousand of our nation's defenders, there have only been predictable expressions of sovereignty and impatience from the U.S. enabled Iraqi regime for the day when Washington finally gives them their own set of keys to their new military oligarchy.

Despite the most animated arguments of the administration and McCain that the "surge" of military force during the summer 'worked,' there has been no concrete benefit from the increased assaults on Iraqi communities and the resulting "surge" of Americans and Iraqis killed in the process -- outside of our military forces' demonstrated ability to conquer Iraqi territory and hold it. And, if there are any credible 'successes' in stemming the resistant and opportunistic violence in Iraq, credit must be given to those Iraqis who stepped up to forge their own reconciliation with their fellow citizens and to those Iraqis who walked away from their participation in the violence when directed to by their spiritual and political leaders. That effort by Iraqis, themselves, actually began some four months before the "surge" was announced.

McCain has been anxious and eager to show voters that he's ready and willing to press forward with his own macho, cowboy flexing of American muscle. Earlier in the campaign McCain was taped while gleefully singing, 'bomb, bomb, bomb Iran," even as he promised that his own prescription for the use of force would require a credible threat to our national security, clear obtainable goals, and the application of overwhelming force, as he advised the administration (and was rebuffed) before their initial invasion of Iraq. McCain's hawkishness is an attempt to supplant his reservations about the correctness of the Vietnam War -- in which he served and was held captive -- with a popular, but incredible assertion that, if we just push a little harder and expend and sacrifice more lives and resources, we will prevail.

There's been a driving obsession from this administration, from Cheney, Rumsfeld on down, with re-fighting the Vietnam war in Iraq to re-pursue the myth that we could have 'won' the conflict if we had just applied more force and not withdrawn. Bush and McCain still believe that if we stay their bloody course in Iraq -- if we sacrifice even more soldiers on top of the 4100+ he's already allowed to die for his zealotry -- he's convinced there's something worth those tragic deaths that he can 'win' there.

How many times did Nixon try to convince Americans that he could 'win' in Vietnam? Nixon, like Bush and Mccain, tried to deflect responsibility for his own escalation of his war by reminding Americans about Johnson's role as he promised a victorious end to the conflict. He called his own military muckraking, "winning the peace." The parallel is in Bush and McCain's own strategy to remain in Iraq indefinitely and blame failure there on those who refuse to agree to let them run amok with our military forces.

Bush and McCain are telling Americans that they intend to keep our soldiers in Iraq until they can manage to declare some sort of victory in Iraq. They say they're waiting for Iraqis to unify. They say they're waiting for Iraqis to train their military and police. They say they're waiting for Iraqis to stabilize their government.

Bush says that "the only way to lose in Iraq is to leave before the job is done," but, he also says he "will not put more pressure on the Iraqi government than it can bear." All of the burden for their failure in Iraq is, once again, thrown onto the backs of our soldiers who have never been equipped or prepared to transform Iraq into the ridiculously idyllic, democratic center of the 'New Middle East' that Bush and his regime imagine it should become, just by virtue of their sacrifices.

Nixon's lofty justifications for his continued involvement in Vietnam collapsed under the reality of a perpetual war that was being fueled by our very presence in Vietnam which only served to harden resistance to the U.S. and any forces allied with us. At the end of decades of war, and thousands of American lives sacrificed, North Vietnamese forces took Saigon in 1975. Communist forces occupied the South, renaming Saigon Ho Chi Minh City. It's not hard to imagine Baghdad, in the future, under the control of the very forces our troops are battling today, much like the 'rebel' leader Sadr was once able to ingratiate himself into the new Iraqi government and the manner in which Bush's nemesis in Iran, has been able to ingratiate himself with the Iraqi regime.

McCain should be forced to tell Americans that he expects further sacrifices of life, limb, and American treasure to support the military aggression that his own special brand of bluster and swagger promises. The scramble by McCain in the wake of Russia's invasion of the Republic of Georgia to rattle and brandish sabers he does not yet possess or control devolved this week into a mimic of the Cold War as the Arizona senator revealed to the world that he intends to wield an even heavier, more dense hand than the warmonger-in-chief has brandished through this crisis.

Not only does a McCain presidency threaten to re-usher in a destabilizing chill with a Russian regime already on the defensive from Bush's own scolding and maneuvering, a McCain presidency promises to manage disagreements or crisis with an initial threat of the exercise of our destructive forces. The rest of McCain's strategy promises to isolate Russia again and encourage other nations to adopt the same regressive, adversarial approach which kept our two nations at dangerous odds for decades.

In a further demonstration of the ineptness of McCain's judgment, the Arizona senator says that he expects the UN Security Council (in which Russia has a veto) to act to join him in his strident condemnations. In an amazing example of McCain's knee jerk militarism, the Arizona senator had once proposed the creation of a creation of a “league of democracies” that would militarily meddle in world affairs where the UN refused to tread. “We should form a league of democracies that can act with great influence and power, both economically and militarily,” McCain had said.

It will not serve those American interests of national security, the promotion of democracy abroad, or cooperation in any global effort to stem the tide of terrorist acts for McCain to re-adopt the old imperialistic isolationism of the past. What McCain is asking of Americans is for us to reject the decades of progress which has been made in reforming relations between the 'Cold Warriors' of the past and resign ourselves to the notion that our nation can do little except to try and dominate and intimidate the world by flailing our soldiers and weaponry around the globe.

In an interview with HuffPo in June, former NATO commander Gen. Wesley Clark offered his view of McCain's militarism:

"McCain's weakness is that he's always been for the use of force, force, and more force," Clark said. "In my experience, the only time to use force is as a last resort . . . When he talks about throwing Russia out of the G8 and makes ditties about bombing Iran, he betrays a respect for the office of the presidency."

I'd go even further than Gen. Clark has. McCain's promotion of his reflexive militarism in this campaign demonstrates a profound disrespect for American voters who, in the last election, rejected the open-ended military mission in Iraq that he and his White House mentors are trying to preserve by replacing the administration's defenders in Congress with Democrats pledged to end the occupation.

What a McCain presidency intends to do is to codify Bush's failed military missions abroad by deepening those commitments and holding our nation's defenders hostage to his insistence that there is something to be 'won' by compounding the tragically mistaken philosophy which Bush used to commit our forces to Iraq and uses as justification to keep them bogged down there. They believe that, if we just press forward with more force -- unrepentant in their sacrifice of even more lives, limbs, and resources -- that, somehow, we will prevail. That's as old and rejected a notion as has ever been presented as a platform for the future. It's as old as McCain himself.
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bigtree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-14-08 03:38 PM
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bigtree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-15-08 09:28 AM
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20. link to (edited and revised) final
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-14-08 06:43 PM
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bigtree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-14-08 07:07 PM
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3. McCain certainly hasn't run as a 'centrist' in this campaign
Edited on Thu Aug-14-08 07:09 PM by bigtree
If you quizzed these candidates on their view of the history (and personalities) you describe, I believe they would agree with each other more than they would your cynical attempt to liken FDR and Obama to Mussolini and fascism.

It's interesting how McCain has abandoned his 'maverick' facade in favor of voting with the lame-duck militarist in the White House 97% of the time in 2007 and 2008. In fact, McCain may have managed to set his own course (away from his party) on a few select issues, like campaign finance reform. But, most of those 'bipartisan' efforts were self-serving, like embracing campaign finance reform after he got caught with his hand in the corporate cookie jar (Keating).

I think you're in the wrong forum.
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bigtree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-14-08 07:47 PM
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12. read the book
Schivelbusch doesn't make your argument that the New Deal was fascist or that anything the Nazis were doing was anything akin to left-wing politics.

Again, wrong forum.
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justgamma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-14-08 07:43 PM
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11. What happened to John Kerry?
4 years ago, he was the most liberal. Whoever the dems run is always the most liberal according to the tighty righties.
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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-14-08 07:09 PM
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4. Welcome to DU!
:hi:




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Jazzgirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-14-08 07:25 PM
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8. Pepperoni??
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justgamma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-14-08 08:01 PM
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13. Damn, I wanted to play with him for a while. LOL
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bigtree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-14-08 08:30 PM
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14. kind of a shame
that it took a disrupter to get folks to kick this
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-14-08 10:20 PM
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bigtree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-15-08 01:24 AM
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16. so, you don't like rules
Say, how about I make a visit to your house . . . anything goes, right?
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cliffordu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-15-08 01:28 AM
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17. I'd like to come along for the ride....
Just for shits 'n giggles.
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bigtree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-15-08 01:50 AM
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18. absolutely
bring a friend, stay a while
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cliffordu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-15-08 01:51 AM
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19. SwampRat was talking about bringing a blow torch and a pineapple a while ago...
I figure that and a set of pliers and we're good for a nice visit.....
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The Wizard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-16-08 09:35 AM
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21. Spreading democracy at gunpoint
How did that work out 40 years ago?
Ho Chi Minh (Nguyễn Sinh Cung) was a ruthless dictator enslaving the Vietnamese people. We were in Vietnam to spread democracy so it could expand to the rest of South East Asia. We had to destroy the village to save it.
When Vietnam declared independence from the French in 1954, Ho Chi Minh addressed the celebrating masses and used these words from our own Declaration of Independence, "We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness."
Iraq made the fatal error of nationalizing its oil. Iran did it in 1953 and the CIA overthrew the democratically elected Mosadek and put the Shah in power, creating another foreign policy disaster.
Chavez in Venezuela nationalized oil and Bush tried to stage a coup there.
We would have been in Vietnam a hundred years if the oil we originally thought was off the coast had materialized. When it didn't, the war ended. When we pulled out our combat forces the cost of crude quadrupled. There's a pattern here.
By invading other countries and imposing our will at gunpoint we are the antithesis of what our founding fathers outlined for us in 1789.
I kind of like what the founding fathers had to say, excepting the slavery. I guess that makes me conservative.
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