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omega minimo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-27-08 08:00 PM
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Pelosi Fatigue
"Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety." -- Benjamin Franklin


This is truly a historic moment. The Democratic Party is unifying on the Continental Divide.

Democrats are coming together, in a Mile High City to make up after a lovers spat, a Mile High Party of simultaneous Obamasm.

Deep in the Rocky Mountains, Democratic dinosaurs are extinct, buried and pressurized into the smooth, slick oil that greases the political machine.

The monumental weight of the past is shrugged off, banners are raised, the machine primed and the belief of the people tapped to release great gushers of political zeal.

The historic figureheads of the party are elevated to icons, reduced to brand names.

The spoken power of the Logos, the Word, is focus-grouped into the selling power of the logo, the symbol. The quality of vision, passion, commitment and authenticity that used to approximate leadership has been commodified into the ability to persuade.

The speeches that cause Democrats to leap around like mountain goats are essentially one simple concept repeated over and over, with an articulate assurance that eventually, inevitably, repetitively, rings as manipulative.

Was there a point? Was there an end to the sentence? Or a bunch of phrases strung together, a persuasive PowerPoint confection with nooks and crannies to fill in with one's own spin-addled imagination?

Change. We hope we can believe in.

Change as inevitable, hope as a vessel, a hollow in the rock, for all the survivors of the Reagan Error to pour in their precious acorns and pick up the stone pestle, together, to slowly grind, grind, wash and grind the rich kernels into something once again palatable, nutritious, sustaining... a few acorns fall to the ground and begin to grow anew, into the mighty oaks of the future.

Perhaps a future unbound from the stranglehold of the consultancy class.

*

From a crevice in the rocks, the battered blimp of the American Dream flaps in the winds of hope of change. Still flexible enough, the trickle-downed membrane is slowly filled with hot air and floated above the Mile High party, as incredible and inspiring as the golden parachutes of all the CEOs who have siphoned off the commonwealth for the past three decades.

OOOooooooohhh. AAAaaaaaaaahhh.

American Dreamtime. Awaken from ye nightmare, people, and dare to hope again.

It's enough that you are awake now, that the meme has been received, that you have been reminded of your birthright as Americans: We're. All. In. This. Together. The terminal toxicity of Reaganism, the radioactive fallout of "Greed Is Good" and the death grip of a twice unelected administration, have brought us to this Mile High union.

The process of Big Business married to government is near complete -- but the powers that be still need you to buy their stuff. So, don't worry yourselves about WHY or HOW or WHO has bankrupted your nation, your daily lives and your future. Just worry about NOW and HOPE and CHANGE we can BELIEVE IN and DREAM that American DREAM of a thriving Middle Class! Hardworking American Families! Yay!!

You are consumers now, no longer citizens. Awaken from ye downsized nightmare and enjoy the oblivion and comforts of patriotic purchasing power.

*

Thin shreds of paper poke out of another gap in the rocky face of American democracy. A broken cartoon eye peers skyward.

The Mile High Party has overlooked this wretched remnant of previous times. Maybe it was a Donkey, a Flag or an Uncle Sam; a political pinata, a battered, hollowed out shell, emptied of it treasures, that other American birthright: the Constitution, the Bill of Rights, the writ of Habeas Corpus, the ancient fundament of the Magna Carta.

Even the mountain goats found the remains of the cardboard carcass indigestible. There's still time to take a few more swings at the suspended and flimsy structure of the United States' trifold system of government.

The foundation of American democracy is indestructible, rock solid and more flexible than the shiny balloon of the American Dream. The American Dream is nothing without it.

When Martin Luther King, Jr. dreamed his Dream, he was not speaking merely of gas tanks and kitchen tables. His vision was that of the Founders: of the self-evident dignity of human life, the inalienable right to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. He was speaking of human rights and the potential for the fulfillment of the true American Dream -- one of citizenship, participation and awareness, not consumerism, distraction and convenience. Perhaps a future unbound from the stranglehold of illegal war and political assassination.

*

And at this historic moment, Madame Speaker, you are key.

You have come out boldly, making pronouncements about the awesome future the Mile High merger will lead to. Democratic power is yours. Congress is yours. The White House is yours. The gavel and the podium are yours. You can taste it.

You are the gatekeeper, the figurehead of this moment. You have your finger on the tap of political will or will not. For years, your front running candidates -- the dinosaur and the vessel of hope of change -- have been out of the Senate and on the campaign trail. For years, you have kept impeachment off the table, Bushco in office and troops in Iraq.

For years, your party has gambled that the acquisition of a trifecta of power in D.C. is worth enabling and pandering to the treacheries of unaccountable government. You have gambled that voters disaffected by your subterfuge will have nowhere else to go and will keep this (potentially too close again) election from being handed to Republicons. For years, you have used all the right words and done the opposite.

Democracy is off the table.

There are eighteen million cracks in the Constitution.

There are "Freedom Cages" at the Democratic Convention to contain and prevent free speech.

You can have your power trifecta and your hope and change, your shiny-faced middle class willing to believe that they haven't been completely sold out (yet) by corporate America and its friends in Congress.

Obama can pick up Bushco's bogus lingo of "War On Terror" and "Faith Based Initiatives" and who knows -- maybe even "Teach to the Test."

No need to bring back civics in the schools, now that we're all trained to be good consumers and keep the economy humming, believing that our "rights" as Americans mean living an unsustainable lifestyle on the backs of plantation nations where our jobs have been relocated.

Those who value citizenship over conspicuous consumption, planetary survival over planned obsolescence; those who know that without our rights intact, with pirates in charge, we are standing blindfolded on the gangplank... we may not be in the limelight, but we won't fade away. We are the bedrock, the spine of the nation. We are the mountain goats, sharp eyed and sure footed. We are the weathered balloon and the pounded pinata, ready to rise again.

We are the legacy that YOU were bequeathed by the Founders, the creators of the Constitution that YOU swore an oath to safeguard. We are Martin's living Dream, not Lockheed Martin's homicidal wet dream.

Reagan/Bush was not impeached for Iran/Contra. Clinton was impeached for Monica. History will show that Congress -- despite the efforts of some who tried to do the People's business and fulfill their sworn oath of office -- was not allowed to hold the current administration accountable. The inference (and Republicon spin) will be that Bushco did not deserve to be impeached.

You have endorsed for posterity the high crimes and misdemeanors of the Bush administration; you have written the bogus history that will follow. That history is written with the blood of the needless carnage of the war in Iraq. That history will be underscored with the blood of future generations who will be sent into another illegal meat grinder because of the precedent that you have (failed to) set.

That bogus history is written with the blood of all who fought and died defending the freedoms and civil liberties that you have sold out for your big power play.

This is the turning point, this is the moment and you will be remembered for it.

Madame, we don't believe a word you say. You do not speak for us.




http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/chronicle/archive/2008/08/26/ED0612I0PU.DTL

Letter to the Editor (not OM's) 8-26-08

Platform for Pelosi

Editor - It was a waste of ink to print House Speaker Nancy Pelosi's pabulum (Insight, Aug. 24) to the effect of the old military joke: I'll be behind (Obama) all the way. Way behind. Pelosi had a new beginning handed to her four years ago, and she fought to prevent change every step of the way. Pelosi's tenure as speaker has left Obama with more ground to make up and a more discouraged constituency. It is an embarrassment to me as female that she will always be the first female speaker.
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tazkcmo Donating Member (668 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-27-08 08:04 PM
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1. clap clap clap
Fuck Pelosi
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Trajan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-27-08 08:05 PM
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2. NOT a big Pelosi fan ....
But really .... Is it necessary to hammer Democrats right now ?

Cant we wait until the elections are over ? .... Please ?

Sheeesh ....
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omega minimo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-27-08 08:08 PM
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3. dear trajan
grow up :thumbsup:
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Trajan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-27-08 08:18 PM
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4. .
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omega minimo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-27-08 08:21 PM
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5. dear Trajan
it's heartbreaking to reach this point. it's noteworthy. more power to the shiny happy consumers. and We the People too.

looks like they broke out of their Freedom Cage. :kick:
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Trajan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-27-08 08:22 PM
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6. .
:eyes:
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omega minimo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-27-08 08:26 PM
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7. your youth betrays you
:hi:
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HughMoran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-28-08 12:29 AM
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18. Some people can't help themselves
Like your friend who will never stop talking about stuff you aren't interested in hearing at the time, then who gets mad at you for not listening.
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omega minimo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-28-08 08:15 PM
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34. Some people can't help themselves
like the ones who don't understand what's being said but have to check in and act superior anyway...

:hi:
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HughMoran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-28-08 08:19 PM
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35. I understand perfectly
You've never stopped acting this way and I don't like it.

Ass.
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omega minimo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-28-08 09:04 PM
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36. Another content free, petty, drive by personal attack. Like a blur of flies, impossible to tell
apart, cuz ya'll have nothing to say.

Sorry about your grudge, bud. Maybe you need a hobby.


:cry: "You've never stopped acting this way and I don't like it." :rofl:



ass :kick:

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Time for change Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-27-08 08:41 PM
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8. "You have endorsed for posterity the high crimes and misdemeanors of the Bush administration"
Yep. I'm afraid that's what she's done. It's so sad. What are the consequences of that going to be? I sure do hope that Obama is up to the task of changing our course.
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omega minimo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-27-08 09:18 PM
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9. Well let's see
Edited on Wed Aug-27-08 09:23 PM by omega minimo
"What are the consequences of that going to be?"

What were the consequences of not impeaching Reagan/Bush for Iran/Contra (aside from Ollie North being a "hero" and radio blowhard)....

What were the consequences of impeaching Clinton for a peccadillo....

Those two led to the lack-of-will-to-impeach this administration. What are the consequences of kicking the can of executive accountability further down the road (aside from Karl Rove being free to roam and become another media blowhard)....

Precedent.

What are the consequences of presidential unassailibility and the construct of the Imperial Executive that Bushco crafted, waiting for the next Chief Executive to put the key in the ignition?


edit:

oh, and I know for sure "the bogus history will follow." It already has.
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Time for change Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-27-08 09:38 PM
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14. Logic would say that you're right about that
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tomp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-28-08 06:46 PM
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27. one of my problems with obama...
...is his lack of a definitive stance on the crimes of the bush, inc administration. He'll look into it when in office. I'm so hopeful.

if you're not outraged, we're not on the same team.
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dflprincess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-27-08 09:22 PM
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10. Actually, it's not quite 2 years since Pelosi had "a new beginning handed to her"
but that's the only thing I can say in her defense.
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omega minimo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-27-08 09:26 PM
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11. aye
and first thing she did was take impeachment "off the table"



I find myself unable to listen to her. She can have her trifecta. And try to look at herself in the mirror.

What miracle rabbit will she pull out of the hat that can justify this?
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roody Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-27-08 09:31 PM
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12. Change and democracy will bubble up from below,
not come from top down.
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omega minimo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-27-08 09:35 PM
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13. okay
Edited on Wed Aug-27-08 09:36 PM by omega minimo
"Those who value citizenship over conspicuous consumption, planetary survival over planned obsolescence; those who know that without our rights intact, with pirates in charge, we are standing blindfolded on the gangplank... we may not be in the limelight, but we won't fade away. We are the bedrock, the spine of the nation. We are the mountain goats, sharp eyed and sure footed. We are the weathered balloon and the pounded pinata, ready to rise again."
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roody Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-27-08 10:09 PM
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15. That's beautiful.
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omega minimo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-28-08 08:09 PM
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30. cool
:thumbsup:
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autorank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-27-08 11:49 PM
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16. "Maximum" Minimo
:yourock:
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omega minimo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-28-08 08:07 PM
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29. much obliged, autorank
YOU :yourock:

it's been quite the journey... and the time at DU, a refugee washed ashore after the (second) stolen election...


now I know that we never learn any lessons -- history does repeat ("how fortunate for government that people do not think") and we have no chance of learning anything IF IT'S NOT ADDRESSED AT THE TIME.

:hi:
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bvar22 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-28-08 12:00 AM
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17. K&R
Beautifully crafted.


Fancy Nancy parlayed her congressional seat into a seat at the Rich Man's Table in 2006.

She has never looked back.

I once had high regard for Congresswoman Pelosi.
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omega minimo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-28-08 09:19 PM
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37. The Table
Edited on Thu Aug-28-08 09:21 PM by omega minimo
The Madame of the house sits with Democratic elites and Republican lites. On the table is "Habeas Corpus Surprise": roasted Constitution with a mangled Bill of Rights stuffed in its mouth. Candles are lit, soft music plays, glasses are raised. The discussion is very civilized and non-partisan, since the only party that matters is the one they are at.

A large picture window looks down on Madame's estate, where the base uninvited have gathered. Trying to get Madame's attention, they wear "Impeach" across their chests. They build all kinds of things in the garden. They hang clothes from the trees.

The trees have been broken, branches are missing: the legislative branch supports Madame's table of elites, the judicial branch is in the pocket of the pretender who joins the president deeper in Madame's mansion. Together they use the executive branch to club the shrunken government, gasping for air in the bathtub.

The elites and the lites have finished the meal and prepare for entertainment. The legislative leg is removed from the table, which tilts toward a hole in the floor. The leavings from the table are swept away, as the party surges to the window to watch.

An opening appears in the mansion wall above the base. A chute emerges and funnels the party’s leavings into a trough in the yard full of signs. The base pick through the trough for something of value, finding shreds of parchment amongst trampled Rights: a “We” here ... a “People” there ...

The party lites and elites watch with amusement as the alarmed base scramble to retrieve shreds and scraps of meaning from the slimy trough. Bits of vellum and ink are worth nothing against the ingots of gold, spigots of blood and treasure, controlled from above by the power of the purse.

The base collect the shreds of their inherited commonwealth, turn their back on the party, the elites, the lites and go to build a new table.





"What people fail to understand is what happens when you go down that slippery slope we've gone down... regarding our civil liberties... people keep saying "We'll get them back, we'll get them back later" but it's very difficult to climb back up that hill... " -- John Dean on Randi Rhodes show 10-10-07

"You can just imagine my neighbors' reaction to all this. If they were poor and they were sleeping on my sidewalk, they would be arrested for loitering. But because they have 'Impeach Bush' across their chest, it's the First Amendment. ... So I'm well aware of the unhappiness of the base." – Nancy Pelosi “has candid talk with reporters” 10-10-07
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Senator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-28-08 05:03 AM
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19. "Off The Table" Remains Her ONLY Legacy
As impeachment remains our ONLY moral, patriotic option.

Without it, it is more likely than not that Obama goes the way of Gore and Kerry. But even if not, unimpeached war criminals become free to wreak havoc both domestically and internationally.

The "scandal ridden" Obama will be no match for cheneyists -- in and out of gov't.

Only impeachment http://journals.democraticunderground.com/Senator/16">can reunite our once-great nation against those who put our interests aside in favor of their own.

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judasdisney Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-28-08 06:20 AM
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22. Damn fine comments there, Senator. Are you Russ Feingold?
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NNN0LHI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-28-08 07:50 AM
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24. You must be confused. Russ Feingold does not support impeachment
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Senator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-28-08 11:17 AM
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25. No. Certainly not Senator Groupthink Oxymoron
Who, as NNNOLHI points out, suffers from a case of Impeachophobic Groupthink as bad as any of them.

The "oxymoronic" part about Feingold is that he advocates censure -- which jumps directly to judgement and "punishment." But still conveniently skirts the oath-bound Constitutional duty -- to actually DO some damn thing (impeach and hold trial).

Like those who claim some other form of accountability might come later (the actual DOING by someone else, of course) -- and those who claim that The Hague will somehow, someday relieve us of our moral and treaty responsibilities -- he takes refuge in impeachophobic pipe dreams.

But that makes him a good target for us to keep talking impeachment to. He might yet be brought to his senses and cured.

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omega minimo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-28-08 08:13 PM
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33. There's a hint here
"The "oxymoronic" part about Feingold is that he advocates censure -- which jumps directly to judgement and "punishment." But still conveniently skirts the oath-bound Constitutional duty -- to actually DO some damn thing (impeach and hold trial)."

There's a hint here of why the INTENTIONAL TRIVIALIZING OF THE PROCESS via the faux Clinton impeachment was so OUTRAGEOUS AND ALARMING.


Rehnquist and his damn racing stripes :puke: more bogus history to disinform the future -- and allow cover for vascillators like St. Feingold.
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dbt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-28-08 05:19 AM
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20. Gimme a K! Gimme an R!
Gimme a Congre$$ that ain't been BOUGHT by the corporations!

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Hubert Flottz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-28-08 05:35 AM
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21. To the manor born Nancy thinks she's the queen of the democrats.
No wonder she don't see anything wrong with the Bush KKKlan...she came up through the same "school of hard knocks" as W and McPOW-WOW...their daddy was their "BOOTSTRAP"!

I hit the mute button as soon as I see Nancy, John or George...I don't listen to people who I know are just going to lie to me again.

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omega minimo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-28-08 08:03 PM
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28. last time I saw her on Tee Vee she looked like she was trying to chew her own face off
smiling and egging on the crowd, voting for VP...
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judasdisney Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-28-08 06:22 AM
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23. Treason Doth Never Prosper, For If It Prosper, None Dare Call It Treason: Nancy's Motto
and her mantra as she rakes in the cash.
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bertman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-28-08 02:07 PM
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26. PERFECT!!! SCREAM IT TO THE MOUNTAINTOPS!!!
PELOSI IS A TRAITOR.

See you at the Hague, Nancy. I wish.


Thank you, Omega Minimo.
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omega minimo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-28-08 08:10 PM
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31. "Let them eat trifecta"
thank you, bertman
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FLAprogressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-28-08 08:10 PM
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32. DOWN WITH PELOSI! DOWN WITH THE DLC! DOWN WITH THE BLUE DOGS!
Get some progressive Democratic leadership that actually gives a damn!

Unfortunately.....it's all a pipe dream :(
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bertman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-29-08 01:15 AM
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38. Yep, you're probably right. The ONE SINGLE THING that I wanted Obama to say tonight, he did not.
That was: "Now, what I need is for all of you to go home and write checks to the campaigns of all of these new PROGRESSIVE Democrats, and get out and volunteer for THEM. Then we'll be able to actually enact some of these proposals I have presented instead of having them derailed by Speaker Pelosi and her BlueDog corporate enablers."

Guess I was hallucinating.

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