a religiously insane caller on Wash. Journal this a.m. said:

[ensho]

God is a Republican

and that

Jesus was a Democrat

the host said thank you very much and went on to the next caller.

jeez

[YOY]

1. I suppose the Holy Spirit would be a Libertarian or a Green?

Seriously insane.

[Javaman]

11. I'm thinking the Holy Ghost is more an independent.

:rofl:

[Jackpine Radical]

2. Hey, that almost makes sense in Lakoff terms...

the patriarchal old guy with the beard, the gentler Jesus symbolized by the lamb...

[Fresh_Start]

3. the question then becomes

does the person themselves believe in Christ or are they wedded to the Old Testament worldview.

[GreenPartyVoter]

5. Yeah, I get what you mean

[no_hypocrisy]

4. Is that the "real" reason Jesus was crucified? He was a dem?

[ensho]

6. interesting thought

nt

[Fumesucker]

7. The way things are go-ing, they're gonna crucify me...

-John Lennon

[alfredo]

16. Yep, and they mistook his shock for death, and put him in his tomb.

When Christ woke up and found himself in a tomb, he waited for an opportune time, pushed away the small stone in front of the tomb and escaped to where dissidents found refuge: Damascus Syria.

The Roman guards at the tomb were asleep when he escaped and knew they would be put to death for that, so they said an angel of God struck them down. A few days later, as required under law, the family went to the tomb to make sure he was dead and found he had was gone. His followers devised a cover story that he ascended into heaven. They knew he was in Syria, but deifying him served their purposes well. Damascus could have been a code word for Damascus, just as Moses was a code word for Harriet Tubman.

In those days it was the law to revisit the graves of family members to make sure they were not buried alive. We still have instances where people wake up in the morgue.

[Bill McBlueState]

20. Yeah, he was all like,

"No drilling in ANWR!"

And everyone else was like, "ANWR? WTF? You must be crazy."

And it was all downhill from there.

[Solly Mack]

8. I always thought that was a stupid thing to say

[Mugsy]

9. I've said the same myself.

"God" was all about "vengeance" and "smiting people". The "eye-for-an-eye" nonsense.

"Jesus" was about "love & peace", being "your neighbor's keeper" and "rendering unto Caesar".

The wingnuts are all about "vengeance" (see: "death penalty", "tower of Bable", etc). Democrats are about "love thy neighbor as thyself".

I think the metaphor is apt. :)

[spin]

10. God in the Old Testament was one mean diety...

For example the destruction of Jericho:

20 When the trumpets sounded, the people shouted, and at the sound of the trumpet, when the people gave a loud shout, the wall collapsed; so every man charged straight in, and they took the city.

21 They devoted the city to the LORD and destroyed with the sword every living thing in it - men and women, young and old, cattle, sheep and donkeys.
(Joshua 6:20 6:21)

Jesus in the New Testament seems much kinder.

Maybe that was what the caller was saying.

[Ishoutandscream2]

12. I don't believe in any of that nonsense, but just look at the differences

The God of the Old Testament - one mean, pissed off SOB who would smite you at a whim.

Jesus of the New Testament - peace loving, tolerant, forgiving, loving.

I guess God would dig today's Republicans, I guess.

And Jesus really was, and would continue to be, a liberal.

[yellowdogintexas]

17. "Jesus was a Capricorn, he ate organic food"...song by Kris Kristofferson

from about 30 years ago

[Warpy]

13. Not so crazy, really

Compare the bad tempered, intolerant, vengeful, and just plain damned mean god of the old testament with the kind and generous Jesus of the new.

I'd say the caller had a valid point.

[Fuzz]

14. What's crazy is putting political party labels to religious figures.

[heidler1]

15. IMO, the old Testament doled out fear of reprisal whereas, the NT swung to a love base to increase

the flock. Thus the religion leaders can cite stoning, Hell, mass death and War for those who love violence. If that don't work they can fall back on "love thy neighbor", mercy and forgiveness so they got both covered.

For a long time money could buy indulgences so it was even OK to be rich, but Martin Luther screwed that up, probably because he wanted to get married. Christianity is a first class flip flop religion.

[Jackpine Radical]

19. That maps exactly onto Lakoff's Strict Father versus Nurturant Parent model.

[heidler1]

22. It also mirrors the "good cop bad cop" process.

[Hubert Flottz]

18. I wondered why LIEberman didn't believe in the democrats!

[immoderate]

21. The caller was aptly mapping human tendencies.

Several others already said it. The "God" character in the OT was authoritarian, bellicose, and merciless. Jesus plays humanitarian. Ironically, that was the evolved Jewish ethic of the time.

--IMM

[Jackpine Radical]

23. Why ironic?

I doubt that Jesus--assuming he existed--intended to do anything more ambitious than to put forward the "liberal agenda" of the time, and of course that would have been precisely what you say--the evolved Jewish ethic.

[seabeyond]

24. and since god realized world run smoother under dem, he sent jesus to change

our ways

works for me