Despicable email I received from 'RedState'. this is how GOP wins election

[Liberal_in_LA]

Are Dems willing to wallow in the mud like this to win? (probably not).

I got this email from Redstate a few minutes ago:

For two days RedState has been at the Democratic Convention trying to find American flags.

Sure, when the television cameras come on for prime time network coverage, the Democrats have been passing out flags like candy.

But when the prime time lights are not on, and for the entire time Tuesday night, including during prime time, there have been no American flags: not in the crowd, not on the stage, not in the hallways -- nowhere.

Well, we finally found some American flags.

They were in the trash.



Let's skip, for a minute, that this is supposed to be an environmentally friendly campaign and the flags were thrown in with paper, plastic, food, and other junk. Ignore that.



Just focus on this: The Democrats only pulled out the flags for prime time Monday night and Wednesday night. They have otherwise avoided all displays of the American flag.

After Wednesday night, they threw them in the trash.


Sincerely yours,


Erick Erickson
Editor, RedState.com

[KayLaw]

1. Wow!

And the bag is wide open with the flag sitting right on top. How amazingly convenient for RedState!

[nadinbrzezinski]

5. There are several in that bag...

so there is a possibility that people threw them out

And it does not matter, WHO put it there. This will cost some votes

[Dogtown]

34. I've read all your posts in this thread

You've missed one point: the folks that are likely to give this any weight are already devoted to McCain. That isn't "patriotism", that's "nationalism".

Any one likely to swing our way is concerned about issues, not symbols and trinkets.

[Sal Minella]

29. Reminds me of the anti-choice propaganda shot from several years back of the trash can full of baby

dolls with their stiff little legs sticking straight up in the air. This spectacle of carnage had been secretly photographed in an abortion clinic, we were told. Shame on us.

[Heather MC]

35. Are all American Flag sacred?

So when my son weres out his American Flag t-shirt and it's gets all worn and filled with holes and stains, am I suppose to string it up on a pole and salute it every morning

Hey anyone know what happens to all the American flag people use to fly after 9/11?

And what about the flags for 4th of July, why do we have to buy new flags every year?

just curious

[nadinbrzezinski]

2. This may be a small point for you

but in reality they have a point... throwing the flags in the trash is not a good idea...

There are multiple levels to this

And yes, it will cost some votes.

Yes, it is a piece of cloth, probably in this case plastic, but there're things you don't do when you know somebody will look for reasons not to vote for you.

Oh and this is a major point for some folks in flyover country

[GreenPartyVoter]

4. How are we to know that the photos are not staged by this Red State group?

[nadinbrzezinski]

In the image department it makes absolutely no difference

[GreenPartyVoter]

15. True

[Liberal_in_LA]

6. But how did the flags get into the garbage?

I'm suspicious

[nadinbrzezinski]

10. Once again, unless you can prove they did it... in the image department it matters

not

Get it now?

[Orrex]

8. But are the photos real? And do they show what they're purported to show?

Heck, Dubya himself was swatting his bored knee with a flag during the Olympics--how'd the flyover folks like that one?


It's sad, but you're probably right--these issues of minimal substance really do strike an emotional chord with some voters.

[nadinbrzezinski]

14. Dubyah held the flag in the distress position

outside of Oberman did you see it anywhere?

How much do you want to bet this will be on... oh Newsmax within 24 hours

[Orrex]

22. Everywhere Bush has to act like a President, he's distressed

So maybe he thought he was doing the right thing?

[nadinbrzezinski]

24. Not the point, the people who's buttons will be pushed

CARE about the flag code a little too much...

Dubyah violated the flag code.

(and in case anybody needs translation these photos are directed at that group)

That said, this is the same group that uses flag napkins for the fourth of july, or jackets in the form of the flag, but that is a whole different discussion... one I had with one of them at a recent fourth of july. He was decrying liberals this and that over the flag... I refused his napkins... and paper plates, you guessed it.

[KayLaw]

13. Who are "they"?

The cleaning crew? (Though I think it's staged)

[nadinbrzezinski]

18. Again does not matter.... and unless YOU HAVE proof this is staged

it does not matter.

To some folks SEEING a flag in the trash, or burning... CONFIRMS ideas... and some of them who might have been on the fence, will NOT ever vote for somebody based on this in November

This is about image.

They got it... they have it... it will play

In the water cooler wars

[ET Awful]

26. Here's what happened, somebody got bumped and their flag dropped, janitors swept it up later

it ended up with rest of swept up leavings.

End of story.

[stillcool]

30. I am sick of worrying

about yahoo's that don't give a shit about this country and care only to keep their long held prejudices alive. Their minds will not be changed, they will seek every opportunity to spread their message of hate, and if they are the deciding factor in this election it reflects who 'we the people' really are.

[Orrex]

3. I heard that Liberals use flags to tie up Real Americans before inflicting The Gay on them.

Is there no evil too low for the Left Menace?!?

[GreenPartyVoter]

7. oh, noeeesssss! Not teh gay!!!

[Debau2005]

32. ouch....

diet coke thru nose onto screen....

:spray:

[Cassandra]

9. More likely they were left on seats or slipped to the floor...

and the clean up crews just swept everything up. Or Redstate put them there and took the picture.

[BOSSHOG]

11. A Flag does not a patriot make, nor does a lapel pin

[sinkingfeeling]

12. And exactly why should I believe those pictures came from the convention hall? Ever hear of staging?

[woodsprite]

16. No matter what we say or do, it would have been easy to plant those there

for a photo op. As with any large venue event, I'm sure flags, streamers, signs, etc. were left laying around like old popcorn containers. Just hit them back with the pic of Bush walking on the flag rug or autographing the flag. Those were definitely not planted.

[Frances]

19. Why should I believe ANY thing a Repub says?

Repubs are like the boy who cried Wolf one time too many. I just don't believe them.

[alfredo]

17. They were all on the top so we can see them. Can you say "plant"?

[JaneQPublic]

20. And yet in 2004 GWB was signing paper flags like they were scribble pads (nt)

[JHB]

21. Hollow words from the "Purple Heart Band-Aid" Brigade

Someone make a note to photograph the condition the Republicans leave flags after their convention.

I have little doubt it'll look a whole lot worse than the photo on the OP. About as little as I doubt Redstate will show nary the slightest concern over it.

[woodsprite]

23. OK - so at the end of the Dem Convention we have a

"flag disposal ceremony" as noted here

http://www.myflag.com/flagdisp.html

[ieoeja]

25. I have no doubt the same thing will happen at the RNC next week.

Hopefully someone there gets a picture (with McCain sign as well), then you can send that one to Redstate.

[ET Awful]

27. Your flag decal won't get you into heaven anymore.

We're already overcrowded from your dirty little war.
Jesus don't like killin' no matter what the reasons for.
And your flag decal won't get you into heaven anymore.

- John Prine.

[kestrel91316]

28. What does Redstate propose?

That once a person picks up a flag to wave, they NEVER put it down, never discard it (if disposable plastic type), hold it in their hand until the DAY THEY DIE???

Republicans seriously need to get a grip. There are just as many flags discarded at Republican events. Probably more.

[beac]

31. Yeah, well his hero Shrub AUTOGRAPHED an American flag

and a whole heck of a lot of the 'patriotic' displaying of the flag that goes one is actually flag desecration:

* wearing it on a T-shirt or other clothing (or, like at Sturgis, a bikini!)
* used in advertising (!)
* displayed tattered (like the beat up ones flying from so many car antennas)
* left out at night or in the rain


My grandfather was in the Navy and took the proper care and display of the flag VERY seriously.

[Initech]

33. To quote David Cross - "all flags made by Chinese prison labor".