I think the Palin pick is a set up.

[KatyaR]

I definitely think she was selected to drag the PUMAs to the polls. She's obviously appealing to women and will steal much less attention from McCain than the other probable picks--Rommney, etc. However, if they're elected, I would bet good money that she has to resign "for personal/family reasons" after less than six months, leaving the door open for McCrabby to select Rommney, Huckabee, Lieberman, or hell, even Dick "Darth Vader" Chaney" himself. After all, he has VP experience . . . .

There has definitely got to be more to this than meets the eye. It smells like a Rove set up to me.

[texastoast]

1. Hmm.

I wonder if those personal/family reasons might have to do with her revenge on the brother-in-law scandal she is in in Alaska now.

[sharesunited]

2. Will a Democratic Congress confirm any obvious A-hole?

VP replacements require confirmation.

[KatyaR]

7. Well, obviously they didn't think that far ahead.

But, hell, by tomorrow McCrabby could forget that he made the announcement and pick someone else . . . .

[sharesunited]

8. Actually now that I recall it's just the Senate that confirms under advise and consent.

[shanti]

3. right, it doesn't pass the sniff test

to me. it just seems too odd, as if they don't expect this to take place. :shrug:

[Warpy]

4. I don't know what woman she's so appealing to

because she's a younger, not as smart Phyllis Schlafly.

Women don't vote as a bloc. They're more likely to be part of other voting blocs, most notably the religious wrong. Those are the only ones likely to vote because Palin is on the ticket, and their votes were never going to go anywhere else, anyway.

[blackdot]

5. Maybe McCain will pull a fast one during the convention.

He'll come out and say "fooled ya" and then bring out his actual VP pick.

[lligrd]

6. We Know She Was A Rove Choice

so you may be right.

[Fearless]

9. Palin hates polar bears!!!

"Palin opposes the Bush administration's decision to list polar bears as a threatened species under the Endangered Species Act. Alaska sued Interior Secretary Dirk Kempthorne earlier this month to try to overturn his decision.

Palin argues there isn't enough evidence to support a listing, and she fears it will harm oil and gas development in prime polar bear habitat off Alaska's northern and northwestern coasts."

http://www.thetimesonline.com/articles/2008/08/29/ap/politics/d92s4ms04.txt

[KharmaTrain]

10. She Gives Cover To Closet Racists

PUMAs? Are we still considering those people as Democrats? There's another game at play here several have pointed out and it needs to be hit on over and over...and a sad reflection of some in this country.

Palin's gender is being used by the GOOP...call her an empty skirt...who gives those who don't want to vote for Senator Obama for one specific thing...he's black. Now they can pretend to be "forward thinking" by supporting a woman...the lesser of the evils. IMHO, these people weren't going to vote for Obama...some may have stayed home, but now it gives them the "peace of mind" that their vote isn't a racist one.

It's definitely a set up...a diversion...a straw-woman, per se. But this opens up the opportunity for Hillary to become relevant in this race again...and to attack on the key issues that most women should be concerned about...true equal rights (equal pay and benefits) and a woman's right to choose. I can't see her standing by as the GOOP tries to hoodwink women with this...and also look who it attracts...the fundies...who view women as inferior and weak. This isn't a crack in the ceiling, this is replacing the glass with non-breakable plexiglass.

While Senator Obama can't play the race card...nor should he...but it should be understood this is an under-current that we avoid discussing or confronting at our own peril.

[WritersBlock]

14. THANK you.

That's exactly the point I was trying to make here:


http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x3878925

[KharmaTrain]

18. I Saw Your Post...

Seemed many here missed your point as it appears people are hitting keys and send before they are looking closely here.

Debbie Wasserman-Schultz just nailed it on M$NBC..."the only thing she shares with Hillary's supporters are body parts" :rofl: I was getting worried about Debbie during the later days of the primaries and for her refusing to support the Southern Florida challengers to the Miami Cuban GOOP mafia. I'm glad to see she's come full circle.

Too many are hung up on spin...and not on the cynical motivations behind this pick. This is an insult to women who have worked hard to gain equality...as I say, this replaces the glass ceiling with plexiglass.

I've encountered people who won't say it straight up because they're shamed in their racism, but it's very much an issue that Democrats need to be very aware of and prepared to confront head-on. The fact is there are many, many other women...even in the GOOP, who are far more qualified and deserving of being selected. Gramps went for the PYT...and a cynical move to give cover to the racists who can hide behind her empty skirt....and, many of those racists appear regularly on teevees.

Kudos and cheers to you...

:toast:

[Fearless]

11. And she's connected to VECO and the bribery scandal

"Palin raised at least $4,500 for her unsuccessful 2002 campaign for lieutenant governor from executives of VECO Corp., an oil services contractor at the heart of a massive influence-peddling investigation. Alaska Republican Sen. Ted Stevens is accused of accepting more than $250,000 in home renovations and gifts from VECO executives and failing to disclose them on his annual financial statements; the senator says he is innocent.

Palin received $500 each from nine VECO executives in December 2001, including then-CEO Bill Allen, who last year pleaded guilty to federal conspiracy, bribery and tax charges and agreed to cooperate in the corruption investigation."


http://www.thetimesonline.com/articles/2008/08/29/ap/politics/d92s4ms04.txt

[Mark E. Smith]

12. If it is a Rove set up ...

... it is because he believes the next 4 years of Shrub spawned disasters will
be so bad that this election is not worth winning. I suspect that Rove and those
he toadies for are throwing McSame to the wolves, with the real aim being the
election of Jeb in 2012.

[tjwash]

13. It's not a set up. She was pushed on to McCain by Rove. She's a Rove-Hunt-Bush-Cheney yes man.

She's nothing but an antichoice, pro-war lapdog of the patriarchy, and the public is supposed to think McCain has reasserted himself as a maverick because he allowed Karl Rove to shove this reactionary spear-carrier for the Religious Right down his throat? Good luck on that one.

Oh yeah, and she's married to Todd Palin who works for....British Petroleum! Oh-and she just happens to chair the Interstate Oil and Gas Compact Commission.

No conflict of interests there.

Looks like the oil men are gonna try like hell to keep one of their own in the oval office calling the shots.

Bastards.

[Richard D]

15. What if her appointment . . .

. . . was done just to take the wind out of the dem convention? Look at the timing. Could she, say for family or health reasons, resign from the ticket in a short period of time, leaving the way open for the real VP candidate?

[tanyev]

16. So how many PUMA votes does she bring in?

6? 7? A dozen?

[Snarkturian Clone]

17. No more than Biden NT