What is wrong with the American people? The polls are quite disturbing

[still_one]

After eight years of bush, who has a record low approval, why isn't the connection between bush and mccain being realized in the polls?

Is the message not getting out, or are people not buying the message?

[niceypoo]

1. They will turn

They can only run on Palin infatuation for so long before the gloss wears off. Other than Palin, McCain's campaign is one big hollow nothing.

[still_one]

4. You and I know that, but why isn't the message being received quicker?

[PDJane]

2. I had someone last night tell me

That they wouldn't vote for Obama because they "were afraid of what he'd do to this country, being a muslim and all."

What the hell is wrong with people? I don't freaking get it, I swear I don't. I tried education, but that didn't do well...and I thought I knew this person. Logic seems to be beyond half the population.

[still_one]

5. That is what concerns me, is the ignorance of the public. How do you fight that?

[marions ghost]

6. "muslim"

is code for black, dontcha know...

[still_one]

8. I wonder /nt

[SoCalDem]

3. Polls "say" what the pollsters want them to "say"..

Massive turnout is our only real hope..And wouldn;t it be terrific, if Dems took the day off, and STAYED at the polling places until the votes were counted??

pack a picnic basket, grab the lawn-chairs and just stay there communing with other dems..peacefully of course..

democracy in action:)

If your polling place showed 75 dems signing in, and only 14 votes, but there are 75 standing outside..well you get my drift :)

Call the local media if you plan to do it though..cameras & microphones are always handy in cases like that :)

[still_one]

7. I agree we must have a large turnout, however if it comes to your senario

about votes not being counted on the day of the election, it will be too late if we catch it on the day of the election

[SoCalDem]

10. true, but one more failsafe is never a bad idea..

Probably the ONLY way to make sure you CAN vote, is to register republican.. :evilgrin:

[Romulox]

9. It's simply not enough to say, "W. Bush was BAD!". Everybody knows that.

The next part, "I'm better, because..." is the tricky part.

So far, Axelrod, Furman et al. seem to be paralyzed by conflicting allegiances w/r/t the economy. A populist economic message would've meant a homerun this November. As it stands, we are left debating who will give whom a bigger tax cut.

For someone out of work or looking at foreclosure, it's not much to sink their teeth into.

[still_one]

11. Except it is aboutthe economy /nt

[AndyTiedye]

16. Why is MICHIGAN in Play?

There are rather a lot of people out of work and/or looking at foreclosure in Michigan.
Yet it seems to be neck-and-neck, and this WAS a solid blue state.

The condition of the economy SHOULD be an issue that works for us.
If so, we should be way ahead in Michigan.

We need to emphasize that McCain is part of the problem,
and that he was part of the problem last time too, as one of the Keating 5.

[Romulox]

17. Simply put, no real distance between Obama and McCain on trade, the #1 issue in Michigan. nt

[AndyTiedye]

18. Is That Really the ONLY Issue?

So we get no credit for trying to rebuild the safety net?
Nothing for trying to make it easy to unionize?

All that matters to them is that they want to make it cost us $50,000 to buy a Prius?

It's not clear that they could do that even if they wanted to.
Most of the most popular "foreign" cars are made here!
The Prius will be starting next year I think.

Get the Volt into production!

[Romulox]

24. LOL. Yeah, jobs and our future bear pretty heavily on our minds!

"All that matters to them is that they want to make it cost us $50,000 to buy a Prius?"

Remember this the next time you ask, "why do they vote against their economic self-interests?"

How is making a Prius cheaper for you in the "economic self-interest" of someone in Michigan? And more pointedly, how is your economic philosophy on this issue any different from W. Bush/John McCain? :shrug:

[AndyTiedye]

25. "Trade" isn't the Problem There. It is Loss of Jobs Due to Kool-Aid-Drinking Employers

Your bosses thought that the Iraq war would bring lots of cheap gas, so they could sell lots of huge SUVs.
Cheney probably told them so at the "energy task force" meetings.
So GM sent all their EV1's to the crusher and ramped up production of Hummers.
Ford brought their hybrid to market (we own one), but did nothing further with that hybrid powerplant for years.

They got it wrong. Gas prices have more than tripled, and the bottom fell out of the SUV market.

There is nothing either candidate can do to revive demand for those behemoths.
Some there may think that McInsane will invade enough Middle Eastern countries to get us that cheap gas,
but that hasn't exactly worked out so well for the past 8 years.

Trade isn't the issue, because so much of the competition is made in the US anyway. Some of it is even UAW.
None of it is in Detroit. Detroit has a serious problem attracting anything new these days for obvious reasons.

I think we can make a case that Obama will be more helpful to the rebuilding of cities like Detroit than McAin't.

Obama would also make it easier to unionize the other car plants that are non-union now.

[Romulox]

27. Thanks for clarifying. I see no distinction your position on trade and John McCain's. nt

[AndyTiedye]

30. Perhaps That is Because I Have Not Stated My Position on Trade in This Thread

My position on trade agreements is that labor must be at the table as well,
and any agreement needs their buy-in.

What would you want a Presidential candidate to say about trade?

There is no trade policy that could be devised that would create a demand
for huge gas guzzling SUVs at the curent fuel prices. People simply can't
afford to drive them.

[slackmaster]

12. At least you realize there is a problem

That can be a first step toward solving it.

Is the message not getting out, or are people not buying the message?

I don't believe people aren't buying the message. It's just a message that a lot of the would rather not hear.

[leftofthedial]

13. we're not supposed to say "Americans are stupid."

But . . .

[Sewsojm]

14. The polls are lie ,

spreading the propaganda for when they steal another election, the fix is in!!

[wtmusic]

15. Obama pulled in 1-1/2 times what McCain did last month

despite big business and the rich overwhelmingly favoring McCain. The polls are either rigged or wrong.

[DemoRabbit]

19. It's VERY disturbing... I'm in NY - a BLUE State

and the newpaper today was reporting that Obama and McCain are neck-and-neck. I'm not sure I buy it, but I'm sick over just the possibility!

[EFerrari]

20. The question is, what's wrong with the polls? n/t

[Codeine]

21. Nothing is wrong with the American people.

Something is wrong with the American polls. New voters are being signed up every day, and have been since before the primaries began. Obama has a ground game like no other. Young voters are energized like never before. These facts are not adequately represented - really can't be represented - in scientific polling methodology.

The American people are fine. count on them to surprise you in November. :hi:

[DemoRabbit]

22. Man, I hope you're right

I keep making the "new voter" argument myself, but all the news on the polls is unnerving.

None-the-less, I'm taking nothing for granted! I talk to everyone I can and may just volunteer for phone calls!

[Codeine]

23. Hey, I hope I'm right too!

:rofl:

[ItNerd4life]

26. People are buying the Palin message, not Bush vs. McCain message

From many undecideds that I know, (key phrase being the people that I know) they are now for McCain / Palin because of Palin.
The number 1 reason? She is a Fiscal Conservative. They are tired of the government not balancing the budget.

If Obama actually talked more about balancing the budget, he might be able to swing them back.

We Democrats like to speak out about how Clinton balanced the budget and Bush *ucked it up.
Well, I think Obama should push this message.

[Javaman]

28. ergo: the american people are disturbed. nt

[Juche]

29. Most people don't pay much attention

The majority of people don't pay as much attention as people who actively post on political blogs do. Personally, I paid almost no attention to politics before 2007, so I can understand why some people are swayed by gimmicks like Palin. When you understand very little about what the candidates really stand for it is easy to be swayed by BS.

Roughly 30% of the public don't know who the current VP is and about 80% don't know we have 100 senators.