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DearAbby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-16-08 08:17 PM
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The Federal Reserve says it is taking over crumbling insurance giant AIG in an $85 billion rescue pl
just had a Breaking News email from CNN...they are bailing out AIG. Debt for our grandchildren is infinity....
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kansasblue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-16-08 08:20 PM
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1. Congress? I thought we had a congress thing they may want to review this.
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NightWatcher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-16-08 08:20 PM
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2. yay, maybe they can just print up some more money out of thin air
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Subdivisions Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-16-08 08:20 PM
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3. Now we're in the insurance business. Wait...how does that work since
AIG isn't a bank?

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nradisic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-16-08 08:21 PM
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4. The Republicans are toast....
I hope that the Republicans are done once and for all. They are toast.
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Aqaba Donating Member (781 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-16-08 08:22 PM
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5. Heres a pictorial of what just happened -




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Booster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-16-08 08:22 PM
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6. Yep. The neocons are rushing to get their agenda in, and that is
to bankrupt the country.
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TomInTib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-16-08 08:22 PM
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7. Remember the brouhaha over the Chrysler bailout?
Congressional action and the whole bit.

1.8 billion (3.8 in today's $) dollars.

And the Executive tosses $85,000,000,000 to AIG with zero Congressional debate.

Unreal
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MichiganVote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-16-08 08:26 PM
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8. And the taxpayers get what out of this deal?
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GodlessBiker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-16-08 08:33 PM
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15. 80% of a company that will go bankrupt at some point.
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MichiganVote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-16-08 08:39 PM
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17. They will surely sell off all the junk and we'll see nothing from that.
The profitable stuff will result in a corp. that breaks apart to sustain itself. Then they'll get eaten by some other major corporate predator.

We'll never see a damn dime.
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Omnibus Donating Member (676 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-16-08 08:27 PM
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9. No, Strings attached!
We shouldn't just hand them the money! The insurance industry is one of the crookedest in the country, promising protection then denying coverage on technicalities, milking the middle class for obscene profits.

Fuller federal government oversight should be a prerequisite for this bailout; AIG should also be required to dedicate the majority of their profits toward paying back this loan, shareholders be damned.

Do they do health insurance? I see a lot of potential if they do.

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DearAbby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-16-08 08:28 PM
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10. Socialism for the rich........capitalism for the poor n/t
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alfrankenaynrand Donating Member (25 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-16-08 08:29 PM
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11. better than starting a chain reaction of corporate failures
If AIG were allowed to fail, the repercussions would be worse than the pain of bailing them out. The market is not in good shape right now and a crisis of confidence could start a run on banks. I am not sure the checks put into place after the Great Depression in 1933 would stop another crash. Do we want to risk it? Are we going to sit and watch our economy go further into the sewer? I say let the fat cats finance aid to to companies that employ workers here in the U.S. by raising taxes on them. Do not allow unemployment to go higher than 6%. Workers are mostly Democrats. If they were Republicans they wouldn't actually be working, right?
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Tallison Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-16-08 08:37 PM
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16. Those 'checks' have been systematically removed
over decades as capitalist interests and the politicians they owned realized their fettering effects on profit opportunities.

While my understanding of economics is minimal and I don't know what recourse in AIG's case is in the best interest of the majority, the irony of Federal bailout is self-evident.
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Tallison Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-16-08 08:31 PM
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12. The caps are socializing before our eyes
Now, if only they could implement regulation in proper order... :eyes:
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Project Grudge Donating Member (228 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-16-08 08:32 PM
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13. Neo Con agenda at work
They want to bankrupt the country on purpose so later it will invariable be so small that no social programs can exist because all the money is accounted for in paying back debts. I believe Bill Kristol said something to this effect. It's part of the NeoCon platform: spend spend spend. too bad all those freepers are too dumb to see they are voting against their own interest all the time.
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DemoTex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-16-08 08:32 PM
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14. The GOP's one-sided interpretation of "Res Publica" in action ..
Private gains; Public losses.

Sing it loud, children!
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PerfectSage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-16-08 08:55 PM
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18. So who's going to take over the Fed when it start's crumbling?
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Strelnikov_ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-16-08 09:03 PM
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hunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-16-08 09:37 PM
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24. They'll probably appoint Arnold Schwarzenegger President of the USA for life.


And the people will be content and buy red white and blue Arnold tee shirts at Wal Mart.

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jimshoes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-16-08 09:03 PM
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19. I have a couple of printing presses
I could start right away. :+
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PerfectSage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-16-08 09:25 PM
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23. Yeah weboth know what's coming. Inflation.
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SweetieD Donating Member (517 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-16-08 09:04 PM
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20. This loan is akin to giving a crackhead a 500,000 mortgage. It ain't going get paid back.
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BR_Parkway Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-16-08 09:05 PM
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21. I can haz health insurance now?
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neverforget Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-16-08 09:07 PM
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22. 85 billion at an interest rate of 11% is gonna hurt AIG
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