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Commie Pinko Dirtbag (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-22-08 08:45 PM Original message |
Poll question: Do you think EX-felons should be allowed to vote? |
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Commie Pinko Dirtbag (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-22-08 08:46 PM Response to Original message |
1. Let me copy my post from another thread. |
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Ohio Joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-23-08 08:18 AM Response to Reply #1 |
46. Agreed |
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spindrifter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-22-08 08:48 PM Response to Original message |
2. Why should someone with a felony conviction be |
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Commie Pinko Dirtbag (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-22-08 08:50 PM Response to Reply #2 |
4. There's this mental disease called punishism. |
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Two Americas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-22-08 09:57 PM Response to Reply #4 |
35. that is it |
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treestar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-25-08 08:41 AM Response to Reply #4 |
68. good one! I was always looking for a word for this. |
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raccoon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-23-08 08:02 AM Response to Reply #2 |
45. Because many of those people are members of the underclass, and they will tend to vote for |
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question everything (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-22-08 08:50 PM Response to Original message |
3. Other. They should be able to vote inside jail |
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Commie Pinko Dirtbag (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-22-08 08:51 PM Response to Reply #3 |
5. That's not "other," there's an option to it! |
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question everything (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-22-08 08:57 PM Response to Reply #5 |
9. Thanks, did not see it (nt) |
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varkam (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-22-08 08:55 PM Response to Original message |
6. In my opinion, even convicts should be allowed to vote. |
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last1standing (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-22-08 08:56 PM Response to Original message |
7. The answer to this poll lies in what one thinks the purpose of prison is. |
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varkam (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-22-08 08:57 PM Response to Reply #7 |
8. "Everyone wants to punish criminals just a little more than the last person who spoke." |
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last1standing (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-22-08 09:02 PM Response to Reply #8 |
13. LOL! Consider it a gift. |
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varkam (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-23-08 09:26 AM Response to Reply #13 |
55. Too late. |
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ColbertWatcher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-22-08 08:59 PM Response to Original message |
10. Depends on the crime! |
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depakid (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-22-08 09:02 PM Response to Reply #10 |
14. Define "white collar crime" |
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ColbertWatcher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-22-08 09:09 PM Response to Reply #14 |
18. When a white person who wears a suit at his job commits a crime. Just kidding. |
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Commie Pinko Dirtbag (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-22-08 09:11 PM Response to Reply #18 |
19. Jesus FUCK, that's the kind of attitude I rant about all the time. |
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ColbertWatcher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-22-08 09:17 PM Response to Reply #19 |
22. LOL! n/t |
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depakid (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-22-08 09:24 PM Response to Reply #22 |
26. Have a look at the various statutes as to what constitutes a felony |
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ColbertWatcher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-22-08 09:28 PM Response to Reply #26 |
27. Unless you can post one, I'd rather not, thank you. n/t |
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depakid (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-22-08 09:33 PM Response to Reply #27 |
29. Of course you'd rather not |
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ColbertWatcher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-22-08 09:36 PM Response to Reply #29 |
31. You know what, this isn't a conversation or an argument, this is stupid. I'm done. n/t |
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depakid (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-22-08 09:40 PM Response to Reply #31 |
33. Exactly |
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Freddie Stubbs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-23-08 09:07 AM Response to Reply #10 |
53. White color crime deserves more punishment than murder? |
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Thothmes (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-23-08 12:02 PM Response to Reply #10 |
58. So strip someone of their citizenship rights for writing a bad |
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kirby (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-22-08 08:59 PM Response to Original message |
11. Voting is a RIGHT, not a PRIVILEGE!!! |
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Captain Hilts (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-22-08 09:05 PM Response to Reply #11 |
16. It's not quite that clear...nt |
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kirby (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-22-08 09:06 PM Response to Reply #16 |
17. Where in the Constitution is it fuzzy? n/t |
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Two Americas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-22-08 09:59 PM Response to Reply #16 |
37. yes it is |
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depakid (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-22-08 09:01 PM Response to Original message |
12. Considering the sorts of things that pass for felonies in many states |
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Commie Pinko Dirtbag (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-23-08 09:31 AM Response to Reply #12 |
56. See #45. -nt |
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Captain Hilts (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-22-08 09:04 PM Response to Original message |
15. If you've "paid your debt to society" you should be able to vote. It's INSANITY state govts. can... |
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Orrex (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-22-08 09:13 PM Response to Original message |
20. Hell, in some political parties, a felony rap sheet is a requirement for office |
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Kurt_and_Hunter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-22-08 09:15 PM Response to Original message |
21. If you think prisoners voting is 'indefensible' you're a fool |
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Commie Pinko Dirtbag (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-22-08 09:18 PM Response to Reply #21 |
23. You got it 100% WRONG. It's the OTHER extreme I find indefensible. -nt |
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Oak2004 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-22-08 09:20 PM Response to Original message |
24. Vermont has long allowed criminals serving their terms to vote |
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Malidictus Maximus (326 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-22-08 09:23 PM Response to Original message |
25. If they don't get to vote, why should they have to pay taxes? |
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madmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-22-08 09:32 PM Response to Original message |
28. I think everyone should have to take and pass a course in government before |
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Commie Pinko Dirtbag (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-22-08 09:35 PM Response to Reply #28 |
30. No. I'm kind of hardcore about this. Everybode votes, period. |
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madmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-22-08 11:30 PM Response to Reply #30 |
40. But why should smart people suffer because of the dumb, especially after the |
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Orangepeel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-22-08 09:38 PM Response to Original message |
32. Of course. the only crime for which one should lose citizenship rights is treason. |
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readmoreoften (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-22-08 09:44 PM Response to Original message |
34. Don Siegelman should not have been allowed to vote for himself while Rove imprisoned him. |
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killbotfactory (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-22-08 09:59 PM Response to Original message |
36. Even felons are still citizens |
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Pterodactyl (415 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-22-08 10:22 PM Response to Original message |
38. Here's a stumper: Should they be allowed to own guns? |
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madmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-22-08 11:31 PM Response to Reply #38 |
41. depends on the crime, if it were violent or not. |
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Pterodactyl (415 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-22-08 11:52 PM Response to Reply #41 |
42. Hmm. Should the right to vote also depend on whether the crime was violent? |
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Commie Pinko Dirtbag (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-23-08 07:54 AM Response to Reply #42 |
44. That's stupid. A violent person doesn't endanger society by voting. |
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Pterodactyl (415 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-23-08 08:22 AM Response to Reply #44 |
47. So *partial* rights are OK with you? |
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Commie Pinko Dirtbag (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-23-08 08:45 AM Response to Reply #47 |
49. So, if one right is abridged, ALL must be? Stupid II, the sequel. -nt |
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Pterodactyl (415 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-23-08 09:57 PM Response to Reply #49 |
60. No, I think you should stop being stupid altogether. |
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madmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-23-08 08:35 AM Response to Reply #42 |
48. Not the same thing, would you let a violent person have a weapon which might |
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Pterodactyl (415 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-23-08 10:02 PM Response to Reply #48 |
62. Nope. I don't think they should have guns or votes. |
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madmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-24-08 09:32 AM Response to Reply #62 |
63. So should they be allowed a knife to cut their food? |
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Pterodactyl (415 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-25-08 08:16 AM Response to Reply #63 |
64. Yes, of course. |
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treestar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-25-08 08:39 AM Response to Reply #38 |
67. To the same extent that other people can, yes |
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TreasonousBastard (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-22-08 10:31 PM Response to Original message |
39. The Constitution is not the right place to look for.. |
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EstimatedProphet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-23-08 07:09 AM Response to Original message |
43. They'll legalize crime! |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-23-08 08:48 AM Response to Original message |
50. Bullshit. My poll couldn't have been clearer. |
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Commie Pinko Dirtbag (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-23-08 09:01 AM Response to Reply #50 |
52. Instead of "clear," I should've said "specific." |
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knitter4democracy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-23-08 08:53 AM Response to Original message |
51. Yes. They should be allowed to vote while in jail, too. |
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Jackpine Radical (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-23-08 09:17 AM Response to Original message |
54. I say give them the vote even in prison. |
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fed_up_mother (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-23-08 09:32 AM Response to Original message |
57. All BUT violent criminals should be able to vote in jail |
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bean fidhleir (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-23-08 12:34 PM Response to Original message |
59. Yes, unless their offense was related to public office or voting |
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Pterodactyl (415 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-23-08 10:01 PM Response to Original message |
61. Giving ex-felons the vote would cause a very big problem. |
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Orsino (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-25-08 08:29 AM Response to Original message |
65. How the hell are we going to reform America's culture of imprisonment... |
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treestar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-25-08 08:38 AM Response to Original message |
66. Yes, they should not be out of jail, yet excluded from society |
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slackmaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-25-08 08:57 AM Response to Original message |
69. Yes |
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