"I REFUSE To Let You Operate On The Gunshot Wound In My Chest Until You Fix My Broken Ankle."

[OPERATIONMINDCRIME]

Sounds so damn dumb, don't it?

[gristy]

1. huh?

[cali]

2. sounds like an ill thought out post to me.

If you're comparing this to the financial mess, and the gunshot wound surgery is the bailout, what's the ankle injury analogous to?

[OPERATIONMINDCRIME]

4. Those That Say They Refuse Any Bill Unless It Also Includes This, That, And The Other Thing.

[Threedifferentones]

32. The bailout is the ankle

The gunshot wound is the fact that rich people control this country at our expense. A few get rich, everyone else gets poor.

Does no one see the economic pattern that is so obvious to me?

For decades Americans seem prosperous, but actually most of us are up to our ears in debt, a few missed checks away from real family crisis. Every so often the house of cards falls, average Americans realize how poor they really are, and the rich buy up everything, our property, our labor, for cheap.

Then the system is "fixed" so that the process may begin anew.

It took a great depression to get the New Deal. It will probably take another for any real change to happen here.

[2speak]

3. I have a bucket with a hole in it

I keep pouring water in it but others tell me to fix the bucket first. I tell them they're wrong and just keep pouring water in it to keep it full.

[Phillycat]

Oh, look, sanity.

Weird, that doesn't belong here. Are you lost?

[OPERATIONMINDCRIME]

6. And You're Doing The Right Thing.

What those well meaning but ignorant people don't realize is that if the bucket goes dry, people will die, and that the hole is small enough that even though it's leaking, you can keep it full enough to sustain. But in the time it would take you to fix the hole, too many people would die due to the bucket being dry for far too long.

Kudos for continuing to put water in the bucket patriot.

[Selatius]

19. That depends on the definition of "small."

The bill will be reintroduced with changes probably this week.

[OPERATIONMINDCRIME]

25. I Know. I Hope Some Good Stuff Gets Put In There And It Passes.

[JuniperLea]

26. You swallowed the Fear Kool Aid

If it were so all fired important that we plug this up, why is Congress out?

Because it isn't.

[Regret My New Name]

64. Too bad they're using overpriced bottled water to fill it back up...

[Runcible Spoon]

114. too bad the bottle is made in China from noxious plastics that leach chemicals into the bottom 10%

of the water. The top 90% of the water is just fine, but will quickly be swigged down by fat camels who originally contracted the water bottle manufacturers. Even if we stop up the leak, the water is still poison.

[JuniperLea]

23. Just pour water into the bucket faster!

You can keep up with that little leak, can't you?

And don't worry that the hole keeps getting bigger through errotion... no worries here!

[SammyWinstonJack]

33. ...

:thumbsup:

[Lydia Leftcoast]

34. Two great analogies there!

Add a third: "I can't afford to fix my house and feed my children because I have to pay for this state-of-the-art burglar alarm system that firebombs my house if anyone tries to break in."

i.e. The huge "defense" monkey on our backs.

[The2ndWheel]

36. Use straw dammit! Straw!

Now I can't get that song out of my head.

The main problem is that there is only one bucket.

[ProfessorGAC]

78. Show Me The Hole

That's all i ask. Don't show me the hole you think might be there some day in the possibly near future. Show me the hole!
The Professor

[Forkboy]

84. Last time I said that I got slapped.

:hide:

[ProfessorGAC]

85. You Have A Dirty, Dirty Mind!

LOL! That never even occurred to me! Duh, on me.
GAC

[Forkboy]

98. hehe...guilty as charged.

;)

[Barack_America]

5. I get it.

And yes, it sounds dumb.

But, if it's the foreclosure crisis that you're likening to the broken ankle, I'd elevate it to a compound fracture of the pelvis. It's crippling, but the gunshot wound is still going to get treated first.

[OPERATIONMINDCRIME]

8. Not Just The Foreclosure Crisis.

Some stubborn folk declare all sorts of things. We HAVE to deal with health insurance first. We HAVE to deal with the homeless first, blah blah blah blah blah.

[murdoch]

7. It's more like...

"That guy shot my ankle, and then shot himself in the chest. Since he decided to do this of his own volition, fix me up first, then him".

[OPERATIONMINDCRIME]

9. No, It Actually Isn't. You Really Should Educate Yourself On What This Crisis Is About.

You seem to be implying that only the top will be affected. That's utter ignorance.

[RadiationTherapy]

10. Yeah. It sounds like a dumb fucking analogy.

As if we all will keel over and die...

[rucky]

11. No chemo for me, doc. Just keep cutting out the tumors. n/t

[ContinentalOp]

12. I think it's more like this.

"Oh my god, crocodiles are chomping at my leg!"
"Hey I have an idea, what if we get a bunch of other legs and throw them in there at the crocodiles?"
"Hey guys, I don't think that will work, you'll only make the problem worse in the long term and anyway, where would you get the le..." (bleeds to death)

[ContinentalOp]

13. Oh and guy #2 is a crocodile farmer. -nt-

[ShortnFiery]

44. And once you introduce all those LEGS (dollar currency) NO self-respecting crocodile wants a leg.

:evilgrin:

[ShortnFiery]

15. Now, IMNSHO, that metaphor is much more apt. Well done ContinentalOP.

Sorry OMC, your Doctor X is wrong on this one. ;) :hi:

... Swiss Bank accounts while giving us the slam ... every *large corporation* making the sale for America's tax dollars.

NO!


Who do you trust when the ruling political class are the crooks?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1DGfXAvgknM

[OPERATIONMINDCRIME]

21. That's A Different End Of The Argument, But Still Valid. And He Bled To Death Due To Inaction.

Sure, there's no guarantee the additional legs would've ultimately saved him. But it very well may have bought him the time he needed to escape. Sad fact is, we'll never know because the idiot took too long askin damn questions and being an obstructionist instead of chuckin the legs in there and buying him the time he needed to plot his escape.

Sad part is, that while he was being an obstructionist and wasting time, his wife bled to death from the crocs that were chompin on her too. Selfish fucker.

[ContinentalOp]

27. Haha, I see your point.

I guess I can come around to a compromise. How about if we give Wall Street 700 billion legs?

[quakerboy]

52. The question missing from your response

where do the other legs come from? Is everyone else in the village supposed to chop of a leg and toss it in? Who is to stop them all from bleeding to death from these impromptu amputations?

In this case, I think it is more a matter of having one leg in the crocs mouth, and thinking to ourselves "Ive got this other leg as yet still working. Maybe if I bait this bastard croc with the good one, he will leave off the mangled leg and spend some time chomping on this good one instead, thus giving me time to put some bandaids on my leg" Sure it solves one problem momentarily, but in the end it just ends up with twice as many perforations. What we need to do is figure out how to kick the bastard in the nose and more importantly, get out of the croc pit.

[The Straight Story]

14. On this topic we disagree mostly

It's a trust issue for one - suddenly we have a crisis, which no appears to have seen before, and they want us to just toss money at it.

IF that is needed, then I will be on board. But before we rush to judgment I want more information.

Just because some egghead says it is so does not make it so.

Why did it happen, and if we give them money how do we know it is simply not a band aid on the chest wound? If you want 700 billion you better have a lot more details and make your case.

I want to know exactly who is getting paid, what they are doing with it etc.

[proud2BlibKansan]

59. I am with you on this

I don't deny that we need to do something but we need lots more information before bailing anyone out.

[KitchenWitch]

16. Great analogy!

:hi:

How are you and the kids?

:hug:

[fla nocount]

17. Just twisting in the wind and praying that the rope won't break.

Tell me, when you report in, do you show the boss just your posts or the replies as well?

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

18. More like, "You shot me. Shoot me again."

[OPERATIONMINDCRIME]

22. How So?

This oughta be good.

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

40. The thieves that robbed us are demanding that we pay them because their broke.

So, you think giving money to the thieves is a swell idea because they tell you "it's for your own good".

[OPERATIONMINDCRIME]

45. If The Thief That Robbed You Is Your Boss, And You AND Your Coworkers Won't Get A Paycheck If You

don't, then it would be a pretty ignorant thing to do to stand there in refusal.

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

49. So, the bosses want my money and if I don't give it to them they'll take away my paycheck?

So, let's see, if I give them the money, they'll give me a paycheck, then I'll give it back to them, so they'll give me another paycheck to give to them.

Brilliant!! If you're the boss.

[OPERATIONMINDCRIME]

57. Nope. Pretty Ignorant Way To Put It.

Unless you can point me to anywhere that states that every American has to write a check from their bank account for a few grand to the government.

[JuniperLea]

72. If you want to point out ignorant statements...

And I'm really opposed to that sort of insult, but since you insist... your remark here is ignorant. No one is writing a check, it will come out of their hide in the way of less services and more debt. I suppose you think all the debt Bush has amassed is free too.

[dionysus]

77. Calling People Ignorant Is All You Know How To Do. 7 Times Already In This Thread...

so far, that is...

:rofl:

and your analogy is stupid.

[OPERATIONMINDCRIME]

86. And Each Time I Have, The Description Has Been Correct.

The ignorance is obvious.

And the analogy was fine, regardless of your inability to grasp it.

[Captiosus]

100. I counted 13 before I lost track by the end of this thread.

Someone just got the honor of being my first ignore here on DU. I'll let ya guess who.

I have no tolerance for people whose only attempts at debate constantly involve calling people with opposing viewpoints "ignorant". Especially when the whole debate started with a poorly thought out, inaccurate, analogy.

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

83. OK. Do that. Stop witholding on you paycheck, and tell the IRS to piss off.

And, if you want the material demanding payment, you can usually find a lot of it at any IRS office, and they usually have stacks of it at the local Post Office prior to April, 15 of every year.

[OPERATIONMINDCRIME]

88. What On Earth Are You Talking About?

:crazy:

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

91. Work on it. You'll figure it out....nah, forget it.

Or, you could try educating yourself.

[OPERATIONMINDCRIME]

106. You Could Try Following Context.

The taxes are already taken out of your check. You don't have the money to begin with. In your tragically flawed analogy, you referenced using your own money as if it were out of pocket. That's false on its face.

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

109. So, great intellect, where do you think the $700bn is going to come from?

Either they pay it out of taxes, or they inflate the dollar by printing more of them. In either case, we lose.

[OPERATIONMINDCRIME]

112. We Lose Far More If We Do Nothing.

[stranger81]

95. I suggest you start with the tax code . . . . .

go on, start reading.

[magellan]

20. Perfect illustration of why the bailout is wrong. n/t

[seemslikeadream]

24. Yea dumb

You think I'm going to ask, ummm beg, the person that got us into this mess to then operate on me???


:rofl:

[ShortnFiery]

39. Yes, to our Corporate Masters, please take the rest of our tax dollars, we don't need it.

Thank you sir! Take more of my money and invest it in your Swiss Bank Account.

This package GIVES our money to the CorporFACISTS.

Dammit! I also wish that MORE people can wake the F**k up and realize that by printing more dollars and hyper-inflation, we are ushering in America's version of "The Third Reich." :grr: :nuke:

Study this visual - we are giving up our RIGHTS by giving "even more" money to The Executive Branch. With or without a democratic President.

[seemslikeadream]

43. CorporFACISTS.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Julius_Evola

[ShortnFiery]

48. You got that right!

[seemslikeadream]

28. ...........

[JuniperLea]

29. You are asking the person who shot you to fix you...

Yes, that is pretty dumb.

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

30. Not only that, you have to pay him for it.

[seemslikeadream]

31. AND OVERCHARGE YOU FOR IT

ALL CAPS FOR THE OMC

[stranger81]

96. exactly . . . . gotta be pretty masochistic to invite that kind of treatment,

yet plenty of sheeple are more than happy to do so.

[scheming daemons]

35. Another way to put it: "My next door neighbor set his house on fire. Why should I help put it out?"

Sounds good...til the fire spreads to your house.

[2speak]

38. But

you shouldn't poor gas on it either. I would be really mad if the neighbor had a meth lab and it caused the fire. Something illegal. What if the fire came from the gas lines and was going to catch the whole city on fire? Wouldn't it be best to turn the gas off?

[quakerboy]

55. But is that right?

Its more like our nextdoor neighbor set our house on fire. and its pretty well toast. But now it has spread to his own house.

Do we spend our time saving his house or do we spend it trying to salvage what we can from our own, particularly any family members still in the house?

[librechik]

69. He set his house on fire for the insurance money. And he was running a crack lab out of it

Now the fire HE SET is out of control.

I'm calling the cops befroe i call the Fire Department.

And I sure as hell won't let him borrow the only hose I have so he can save his koi pond.

[chill_wind]

90. Whhooot! n/t

[johnaries]

37. Close, but I think this is closer:

Don't worry about controlling the bleeding or hooking up plasma, start taking out the buckshot. So what if I bleed to death before you finish?

[2speak]

42. How about

don't worry about the buckshot just sew me up doc it will be OK.

[OPERATIONMINDCRIME]

46. Exactly.

[2speak]

50. I am glad you agree

with this because we need to fix the problem (buckshot taken out) before we give money. Plus didn't the fed give them 630 billion already today?

[OPERATIONMINDCRIME]

62. You Just Made No Sense.

Sorry, but now ya lost me.

[MyNameGoesHere]

41. But why did they shoot me in the chest in the first place? n/t

[OPERATIONMINDCRIME]

47. Good Question. It Would Probably Be The Wise Thing To Do To Ask It After Surgery.

The answer's important. But it ain't priority over the surgery.

[ShortnFiery]

53. Yes, trust first the Bush Executive Branch with the initial 250 Billion!

[2speak]

54. Maybe cancer

would be a better analogy. If a person has cancer the best thing that can happen for them is to have the cancer removed during mass removal. If it has spread, then other treatments are necessary. Eating all the food you can to sustain yourself will not keep you alive. The cancer must be removed or destroyed.

[JuniperLea]

75. Thank you...

There's no sense in wearing ourselves out bailing water out of a sinking ship either;)

[That Guy 888]

51. Are you refering to the text of your post, or your fear-spamming?

Can you point to ANYONE besides bush, paulson, or their cronies who say that THIS PLAN is the ONLY PLAN that will work?

[OPERATIONMINDCRIME]

58. I've Never Said It's The Only Plan That Will Work Either. I Think The Plan Sucks.

I think a better one can be made. But that's not the point of the OP either. The OP is towards those that will refuse almost any sort of bailout, short of solving every single humanitarian crisis in our country first.

[That Guy 888]

73. You and a few others have been pushing real hard for the bailout plan...

Maybe I'm confusing you with someone else (if so, my apologies)but some of you are starting new posts every half hour or so about how the sky is falling and something has to be done now. Now! Dammit, NOW!!!

No details, no information about what education or experience leads you to these conclusions, no supporting links from qualified academic or economic experts, nothing. Just your posts 'o doom.

If you really think this plan sucks, maybe you shouldn't be trying to stampede everyone into thinking something, anything needs to be done immediately.

[seemslikeadream]

56. Quess what? THEY LIED TO YOU OMC

you weren't shot in the chest it's fake blood


YOU'VE BEEN PNWD

[OPERATIONMINDCRIME]

60. Well If That Isn't The Most Uninformed And Ignorant Logic Put Forth Yet.

Educate yourself on the issue slad. It would do ya some good. Until you do, and until you can show that you have even a basic understanding of this crisis at hand (which you have failed to do so far), then I'll refrain from responding to any more of your silliness.

[seemslikeadream]

61. I don't need to educate myself I PREDICTED THIS 2 YEARS AGO you're the one that needs an

EDUCATION

[OPERATIONMINDCRIME]

66. Actually You Do.

And there are no kudos given to somebody who runs around everyday for years screaming that the sky is falling, just because one day the sky actually starts falling, through complete coincidence.

Educate yourself on this issue. It'll do you some good.

[seemslikeadream]

71. Well I have my house and it's paid for so that's all the proof I need

and I don't owe anybody anything, so in my book I'm smart and you are...........


on edit I do owe Dr. bills

[dionysus]

82. well if OMC says you don't know what you're talking about then...oh wait... he says that to everyone

:rofl:

[OPERATIONMINDCRIME]

89. So Cause You Don't Owe Anything, Screw Everybody Else?

Pretty shitty attitude.

[tkmorris]

102. Complete COINCIDENCE??!!!!?????

You think this is all a fucking COINCIDENCE?

No wonder you don't want to fix what's broken. Nothing is, to you. It's just a "coincidence". Oh, and by the way, what exactly is it that prevents us from doing both things? Fixing the hole in the bucket AND keeping it topped off? Do you think the American people are incapable of walking and chewing gum at the same time or what?

[OPERATIONMINDCRIME]

107. Settle Down Francis.

I'm saying that if a poster declares the sky is falling every day for years, that when it finally does occur it does not make them ahead of the curve nor worthy of a pat on the back. It is mere coincidence.

As far as the rest of your post, it's nonsensical.

I do want to fix what's broken.

I never said we can't do both.

I want to do both.

The OP is simply in reference to those who will balk at any sort immediate bailout legislation unless it also immediately solves every other pet peeve of theirs.

[tkmorris]

110. The OP is a response to people who don't exist

It is a classic strawman argument. You presume that there are people who don't want a bailout unless every other societal problem is solved concurrently, and then you proceed to mock them.

The problem is, such people do not exist. There ARE people who do not want the American taxpayer put on the hook to the tune of (insert whatever figure you prefer here) unless the issues that caused this problem are addressed as well, but making your case against that argument just doesn't grant you as much leeway to deride them does it?

OMC the reason no one is convinced by your arguments is because you never leave any room for any opinions but your own. Anyone that doesn't simply parrot you is an "idiot", or "ignorant". You never directly address the points they make, you just act like a jerk. This is NEVER going to work, and you will turn people against your point of view on principle. This seems to be so well practiced with you I can only assume this is just the kind of person you are. Trust me, that is not the path you want to be on. You will be viewed as boorish and close-minded. That will lead to a very lonely existence, which will only reinforce your angry "get off my lawn!" persona.

I actually feel sorry for you. Must be a vitamin deficiency or something, I would never have expected that.

[OPERATIONMINDCRIME]

113. They Do Exist. Their Squawking Is All Over The Place.

I've seen tons of comments refusing to support the bailout and saying that the money should go to healthcare, the poor, the homeless, blah blah blah. Such logic is absolutely ignorant.

And I always leave room for other intelligent opinions and when faced with them, have learned much here. But those I call closed minded and ignorant, are called such out of fact. It's always the same general handful of posters as well. They never cease to amaze me with their lack of reasoning.

[2speak]

65. You dont' have to get infantile

about it. I guess your unable to have a discussion and listen to other peoples views without resorting to school yard tactics.

[seemslikeadream]

67. That is the essence of OMC

good on you to have picked up on that so fast

[OPERATIONMINDCRIME]

68. The Assessment Was Spot On.

The logic in that reply was utterly ignorant.

[arcadian]

115. Certainly, you're trying to sound obtuse on purpose.

Logic is a principle within the wider field of study called philosophy. Logic does not have the capacity to be ignorant.

[OPERATIONMINDCRIME]

116. Accurate Logic Doesn't. Tragically Flawed Logic Most Certainly Does.

If you look at the logical path of deduction used in the replies I was responding to, you will see they got their start from ignorance.

[arcadian]

118. There is no such thing as "flawed logic"

Logic by it's very nature is flawless. If a person is using what they think are logical conlusions in their arguments which in actuality are false concepts then that person's argument is not logical. It's not "flawed logic", it's just not logic period.

[OPERATIONMINDCRIME]

119. I'm Not Surprised By Your Narrow Minded Answer. You Seem Stuck In A Singular Definition World.

In my eyes, it makes you look quite silly.

The term logic can be applied in several ways and carries with it several definitions. One of these is using the term logic to reference a source of reasoning, line of reasoning, methods of reasoning, etc. Under such terms, it absolutely can be flawed, ignorant or simply false. Your argument is absurd and limited in its own reasoning and logic, and also terribly flawed.

Open your mind sometime. It may open the world of possibilities for you.

[arcadian]

120. Can somebody help me out here? Is this guy being serious?

Or is this like some kind of weird joke persona?

[OPERATIONMINDCRIME]

121. You Lost. Get Over It.

Resorting to personal attack due to your inability to respond with rebuttal is quite weak.

Stating that the word 'logic' carries with it only one definition and can only be applied in a singular fashion and context, made you look quite silly.

I couldn't imagine being that narrow minded. Open your mind... It would be refreshing.

[arcadian]

123. What are you talking about?

You accuse me of personal attacks then turn around and do the same. Do you read your posts before you hit "reply"? Because you come off sounding like a third grader.

[dionysus]

80. stick around, you ain't seen nothin yet from him!!!

:rofl:

[OmmmSweetOmmm]

63. The Fed pumped $630 Billion into the markets yesterday. Why are you still so upset?

The Congress is irrelevant.

[yurbud]

70. more like a middle class guy has a gunshot wound to chest, and recoil from shotgun broke rich guy's

ankle.

I would save the first guy and use the second for spare parts.

[aquart]

74. Of course. Just walk over and hop on my operating table.

And I promise I won't pull it farther away as you come closer.

[Joe Fields]

76. Here's a much better analogy:

An inept magician ACTUALLY saws a member of the audience in half, turns to the audience, grins a goofy grin and tells the audience that everything is alright, but that the audience can't leave, until they have ponied up 700 billion dollars for some needle and thread, so that the magician can sew the two lifeless halves of this poor person back together.

[Dr Fate]

79. If I dont get a bail out soon, I'm going to have to sell some of my belongings.

Hopefully when I give $700 Billion bucks of MY tax money to some millionares & billionares ( who are not being asked to bail themselves out with their own property & funds like I have to), they will lend me a hand and help me out. LOL!

LOL! Talk about wounds to the chest. I have a feeling it will remain there for a while...

[ddeclue]

81. BE NOT AFRAID!

I get so tired of the extortionists here...

Doug D.

[Forkboy]

87. They break our legs and we say, "Thank you!" when they hand us crutches.

sigh

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

93. No. They promise you crutches if you'll pay for them and fail to note that they're made of rubber.

[jazzjunkysue]

92. This is not a gunshot wound It's an eating disorder, and we've been told to eat less for decades.

So, now, we weigh 700lbs and no one will dance with us. Really big freaking surprise.

We are going to have to suffer the consequences. Period. Emptying the treasury won't slow it down or even help.

I say, look back at the last year's investment profits and the bank profits from predatory lending, and make those people give the loot back.

Problem solved.

[Common Sense Party]

94. No, first you MUST find out WHO shot me, and why, and why

wasn't someone watching him to find out exactly WHEN he would shoot me and who should be punished because the person in charge of watching the person that shot me wasn't watching who shot me. And while we're at it, we need to make sure that no one else can ever again shoot anyone else, anywhere.

All that MUST be done BEFORE you even start working on my massive, open wound...and...

...and...another {gurgle}...thing...

{gasp}

urrgh.










{beeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeep}

[NNN0LHI]

97. What happens if I don't see the gunshot wound in your head that you are imagining?

Should I question you about that little discrepancy before I start sawing your head open to look for your imaginary bullet?

Or not?

Don

[Dogtown]

99. *IF* there is indeed a gunshot wound

and not just an attempt to score pain meds.



I am *not* convinced that the bail-out that Bush and the conspirators are blustering for is a real cure for that self-inflicted wound.

The "event" that they claim needs to be addressed is by no means as drastic as the patient claims. And on that basis, your metaphor fails. Extending it further, though, would you let a chiropractor treat that sucking chest wound?

I don't trust the Doctor's credentials in this case and will definitely require a 2nd opinion.

I think we need to let real experts, not the Neocon administration, analyze the problem and propose *real* therapy.

[Orsino]

101. Or if the patient isn't bleeding as quickly as he claims.

I was amazed that yesterday's bill wasn't passed, but one tomorrow may be just as good.

The economy is a moving target, and many, many more patches will be needed. There is some time to do real repair work.

I'm just not sure how much time. :scared:

[ulysses]

103. how about we disarm the perp at the same time?

[Dr Fate]

104. Law & order? Sounds like your usual radical, socialist dribble.

;)

[ulysses]

105. damn my comsymp hide!

:hi: How are you, Doc?

[Kajsa]

111. Ya beat me to it, Ulysses!

it makes no sense to not apprehend, arrest and jail the perp
when he is standing right in front of the victim.

[rug]

108. Depends on who's saying it.

[martymar64]

117. What does it matter? We're irretrievably fucked either way

The american have ZERO say in this. The pigs in Congress and in the WH will pass what they want no matter what we say or how much it harms us. That's a fact proven time and again in our history.
Our "government" is only out to protect wealth and privilege, period. Anything beneficial to ordinary working people is an afterthought to them, if we even cross their minds.

I give up. I'm not even going to vote now, it's meaningless. Fuck it all.

[leftofthedial]

122. if that is an attempted analogy to the bail-out, you have it worse than backwards

More aptly, you might have said:

I refuse to give you all my money, let you sleep with my wife, let you beat my dog, let you pimp out my daughter and help you burn down my home in exchange for you shooing some flies away from the sucking chest wound you just gave me with that double barreled shotgun you are holding.