Palin coming up on CBS: Homosexuality is a choice

[Fuzz]

Oh boy

Full quote:

"As for homosexuality, I'm not going to judge Americans and the decisions that they make in their own adult personal relationships. I have, um um, one of my absolute best friends for the last 30 years who happens to be gay and I love her dearly, and she is not my gay friend, she is one of my best friends who happens to have made a choice that um, isn't a choice I have made but, I'm not going to judge people."


Transcribed by me.

[RagAss]

1. Here we fucking go !!!!

[Jamastiene]

60. Again!!!

[LiberalHeart]

2. She is really digging herself a helluva hole.

[Realityhack]

21. actually I think this is what they want from her.

They know they are screwed as far as her appealing to moderates so throw some red meat to the base. Try to get them excited enough to come to the polls.

[petronius]

40. Yeah, I've been wondering why they tried for so long to bottle up her crazy

to get her to appeal to undecideds - she was obviously chosen for the nut-wing, and it's McCain's job to appeal to the middle. The problem for them is that McCain doesn't know how to appeal to moderate undecided voters (assuming there are many genuinely undecided people at this point)...

[Realityhack]

49. I think they chose Palin for 3 key reasons.

1. She appeals to women who are sexist and will vote for the female ticket no matter what.
- I think that it is a sad fact that they will pick up votes on this. I know a few here in MA and that is saying a lot IMO.

2. She appeals to the fundies.
- They have and will continue to pick up votes on this. Extremely sad but no doubt about it, a lot of fucktards will actually go and vote FOR the McCain/Palin ticket for this reason no mater how silly she sounds to us.

3. She is decent looking and personable.
- This keeps her from loosing as many independents as she would otherwise. It make her harder to attack because like it or not people equate attractiveness with intelligence.

As much as I wish it were... the sky is not falling for their campaign. She is doing what they wanted.
Sure they wish she appealed more to independents too, and they tried for it, but she is still dangerous to us.

[tavalon]

66. Well, here's a newsflash for them

The fundies have all lost their jobs and can't afford the gas to go to the polls, nor the stamp to send in the ballot. They're screwn.

[Pisces]

3. Yikes!! Dem leaning independents won't like that, but the fundies will cheer.

[jpgray]

4. Yowza. Divisive red meat for the base is all they have now?

Or is it all they ever had?

[Hydra]

34. It's all they've ever had

Frankly, I don't know how they get away with it.

"Homosexuality is evil!"

Ask Vitter about that

"Family values!"

Ask McCain about that

"Protect the children!"

Ask Mark Foley about that

"National Security!"

Ask Bush about that

[KamaAina]

77. Vitter's deviant acts were hetero

but you could always ask Larry Craig about that. I'm sure he'd have an answer on "tap"!

[CJCRANE]

5. That means she "chose" heterosexuality.

I'd like to see her explain how she chose her own sexuality.

[Fuzz]

8. In the bumper, she said she did.

[CJCRANE]

15. No one I know "chose" their sexuality, straight or gay.

It's ridiculous.

[Fuzz]

20. Ayup

[tavalon]

63. Yeah, if we get to choose our sexuality, I want to be bisexual!

I've always wanted to be bisexual, damn it!

[Tallison]

13. Good point n/t

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

16. Except for one time in five different colleges.

[napoleon_in_rags]

I know, this should be rephrased: Palin: Everybody is a bisexual

because that's what she's effectively saying, and its really not true.

[lisa58]

25. good point

[tavalon]

64. Boy, don't I know it!

I've been asking for a reorientation camp for years. I want to be a bisexual. If they have reorientation camps (But I'm a Cheerleader!) for gays, I want one for straights. I'm tired of suffering under the yoke of heterosexuality (I'm actually only half joking. I have wanted to be bisexual most of my adult life and I hurt a truly bisexual woman once because I'm not, but I tried to fake it. Totally awful for both of us).

That is stupid, or at least willfully ignorant.

[napoleon_in_rags]

75. You're rotally right. That's why I think people should go back to that Kinsey scale.

Where he uses a number from 1 to 6, 1 being exclusively strait 6 being exclusively gay. The truth is you have all the people 2-5, who TEND one way, but can be both. That's the bisexual continuum. Its people from this continuum who have desires contrary to their normal tendency that create the illusion of strait or gay people having choice in the matter. But the truth is that we are what we are, including the many many 1's and 6's out there.

[slackmaster]

81. Behavior of people in prisons proves the validity of the Kinsey work

No doubt about it.

[tavalon]

83. Next time around, I'm ordering me up a 3!

Actually many of the members of my community (Polyamorous geeks who tend toward a bit o aspergers) still use the Kinsey scale. So that isn't used generally anymore?

[napoleon_in_rags]

84. Damn, your community sounds cool!

Does it stretch down to Olympia by any chance??? :)

I'm about a 3 myself, and I recommend it. Though I have to say, in our society its LOT easy to present yourself as strait, so one tends to fall into that mold when its easy for one to do so...

[slackmaster]

24. Or better yet, ask her to explain

WHY someone would choose to be sexually attracted to people for whom they have no natural attraction, or

WHY someone would choose to be a member of an oppressed class of people, subject to all kinds of discrimination and so on.

[CJCRANE]

27. Exactly nt

[Sal Minella]

41. That's what I've always wondered.

Why the heck would anyone CHOOSE a lifestyle that gets you tied to a fence and beat to death???

[Indenturedebtor]

42. That's what drives me crazy about the choice thing

Who the hell would choose to go through all of that?

The only choice I can see people making is trying to convince themselves that they are straight.

[HillRodWins]

76. This "Choice" Statement(s) by Palin

is the one thing that is going to Ruin the election for
McCain.  Complete and utter intolerance!

[Mister Ed]

6. Of course it's a choice

They chose to be that way just to piss her off.

:sarcasm:

[MSU_Spartans]

7. Another calculated gamble

They know they can't win on the issues now. If it sticks to what's important, it's over. So, bring on the culture wars.

[truthisfreedom]

12. You think so? Or did she misspeak again?

It's almost impossible for her to do something on purpose. She's a gaffer.

[Realityhack]

29. sadly... she is smarter than some give her credit for. n/t

[MadrasT]

9. Oh dear.

:popcorn:

[tavalon]

67. Pass me the popcorn and pop in the video, But I'm a Cheerleader!

[Canuckistanian]

10. So Palin chose to be heterosexual?

Probably a good choice for a homophobe.

[chupacabranation]

11. It's going to be a delicious week...

:popcorn:

[maddezmom]

14. thanks for the reminder, tuned in now

[tekisui]

17. !

:wow:

[FirstLight]

18. Is this another CBS evening news?

I am on the west coast...let me know!

[Fuzz]

22. Yes

[LiberalHeart]

23. Yep.

[PDJane]

19. How do these people manage to gain and hold office?

[slackmaster]

28. It must be either irrational exuberance or white privilege

Or some combination of both.

[maddezmom]

26. She can't name a goddamn source that she reads for political information

:eyes:

[OneGrassRoot]

39. Katie tried...lol. I have to give her credit. n/t

[thatsrightimirish]

30. just like down syndrome

right?

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

33. lulz

[ecstatic]

31. Now she's explaining why rape victims should be forced to carry unwanted

pregnancies.

[seafan]

32. I hope someone asks her about the "Pray Away The Gay" conference at her church.

Sarah Palin's church promotes converting homosexuals at upcoming "Pray Away the Gay" conference, September 7, 2008


This woman is a mean-spirited, ignorant freaking joke.

[ecstatic]

35. She's against Plan B--which is basically a high dose of birth control

NOT an abortion pill. Ignorant %#QRQ

[tavalon]

68. It isn't just basically, it is.

And that is very important information to get out to the masses. If you can get a container of birth control pills, you can have plan B available in your cabinet, 24/7.

[varun]

36. All they can hope for is the 20-25% votes from fundies

and Palin is pandering to them.

[Realityhack]

47. Unfortunately that tactic can work. We need to be careful not to...

assume victory at this point. She is appealing to the fundies and anyone who votes in massive numbers can swing the entire election.

[guitar man]

37. so what if it is a choice?

I'm not saying it is, but WTF difference should that make? Isn't this supposed to be a free country, why the hell shouldn't we be free to make choices in our PERSONAL lives in a free society?

:grr:

[GreenPartyVoter]

61. Yes, but the frustration with the whole choice thing, in my view, is that it leads to

the very offensive "pray the gay away" kind of thinking for a lot of the RW evangelicals. (Which, I believe, her church is into.)

[guitar man]

74. I agree

Offensive, medievel thinking at its worst. What's offensive to me is that after I served to protect a supposedly "free" country,our "freedoms" can be dictated by a groups draconian "moral" codes. :mad:

[Toucano]

73. This has long been my point of view.

Inherent in the question is the implication that homosexuality is wrong or undesirable.

I find the question itself insulting.

[Fuzz]

38. As for homosexuality, I'm not going to judge Americans and the decisions

that they make in their own adult personal relationships. I have, um um, one of my absolute best friends for the last 30 years who happens to be gay and I love her dearly, and she is not my gay friend, she is one of my best friends who happens to have made a choice that um, isn't a choice I have made but, I'm not going to judge people.

[Bluebear]

44. oh brother, is that what she said?

Yikes!

[Realityhack]

48. Is that the direct quote? n/t

[Fuzz]

54. Yes, I transcribed it with the help of tivo

and edited my original post.

[baby_mouse]

43. Pathetic.

[peekaloo]

45. "I have um um". Is that contagious?

[SIMPLYB1980]

46. Sigh.

[SidDithers]

50. If sexual preference is a choice...

then, Sarah, was your choice of heterosexuality an... ummm... informed choice?

Sid

[MelissaB]

51. Video here:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=385x202861

[Naturyl]

52. Saying "I'm not going to judge people"...

...is a way of judging them.

[unblock]

53. wow, and here i thought she had the gay vote all sewn up until THAT statement

yeah, right this will really cost her.

:eyes:

obviously, it's a disgusting sentiment, but hardly a surprise given everything else we know about her.

[PVnRT]

55. LOL Her "gay" friend

Does she have a black friend too? Is there a quota system?

[Jamastiene]

58. ...

:spray: :rofl: Great comeback!

[tavalon]

65. Oh! Ouch!!!!!

That's gonna leave a mark!

[hootinholler]

56. Well, how can you pray away the gay if it's not a choice?

I mean what if Gawd just made gay people gay? Why that would be just silly, silly!

-Hoot

[Incitatus]

57. Anyone who says it's a choice

is saying that they can have gay sex and enjoy it.

[Jamastiene]

59. Soooooo, Sarah. How many women did you sleep with before

you CHOSE to be straight?

:popcorn:

[tavalon]

62. I swear, they need 24 hour guards on that woman!

Every time she gets away from McCain, she runs to Katie to do another interview. Not good!

[Jawja]

69. Oh, yeah??

Well being a religious whacko nutjob is a CHOICE. I didn't make that choice. However, I am not going to judge them until they start trying to make laws to limit the choices of others.

RELIGION is a choice and not necessarily a good choice, depending on perspective.

[PA Democrat]

70. I'm no expert, but I'd guess that the only "choice" people have is to accept

their sexual orientation or try to pretend to be something they are not. Lots of pain for everyone involved with the latter.

[LeftishBrit]

71. Voting for Sarah Palin is a choice, and one which I hope that people don't make!

[Hugabear]

72. So she has a gay friend. Wonder if she has a black friend?

She actually used the "I have a gay friend" line to prove that she's not a homophobe?

I wonder at what point did Palin choose to be straight? Did she experiment with another woman first? If not, how does she know she made the right choice? After all, in order to make a proper informed decision, doesn't one have to be familiar with all the options? :eyes:

[SmokingJacket]

78. She is a dumb person.

That is all.

[Kurovski]

79. Is being a pathological liar a lifestyle choice?

Or are they born?

Nice way to weasel out of answering. She's already adjudged it a "choice". The real question to ask is would she change the Constitution to discriminate against her "gay friend"? I don't give a moose honk for her bullshit piety and political posturing.

What would Bible nut Sarah do? :shrug:

[AngryOldDem]

80. Can someone PLEASE explain to my how and why homosexuality is a CHOICE?

And while I'm at it, why is it such a problem? Jesus Christ...just let people live and love the way they want.

[slackmaster]

82. It's an immoral lifestyle that some people choose...

Just like being left-handed.